Jim Rome vs David Stern

[Blaze01]

Holy crud that was hilarious....


Do yourselves a favor and listen to that interview.

"Ok, Jim I got to go make a call to someone important now, Steven A Smith"

lol

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Stern is such a dickhead! He is beyond arrogant.

 

[ironcrotch]

Did Jim Rome get out alpha'd?

 

[Blaze01]

Oh yeah...I kept hovering from laughter to stunned silence....

"So Jim, tell me have you stop beating your wife?"

lol...He really said that....

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Stern is going to regret this interview. Bad bad move.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I missed it--I just turned on the show two minutes ago and heard Rome talking about the interview, and came on here to find out if anyone heard what happened.

Where did the interview turn sour?

 

[Blaze01]

When Rome asked Stern about questions he gets regarding about New Orleans getting the #1 pick.

"A lot of people think that the fix was in in the draft, not me, but I get asked about it. What do you have to say about that?"

 

[PtldPlatypus]

When Rome asked Stern about questions he gets regarding about New Orleans getting the #1 pick.

"A lot of people think that the fix was in in the draft, not me, but I get asked about it. What do you have to say about that?"

Well, to be fair, that is a stupid question, and one that has been asked a million times (about the lottery being fixed). However, that's probably all the commish needed to say.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Audio link to entire interview here - http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/061312-David-Stern.mp3

 

[PapaG]

Well, to be fair, that is a stupid question, and one that has been asked a million times (about the lottery being fixed). However, that's probably all the commish needed to say.

I think that was the purpose of the question. Allowing Stern to dismiss a kook theory with a wave of the hand.

Instead, he started going off on Rome beating his wife, and attacking Rome as a person. Just very odd behavior by Stern.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Stern is just a cranky guy that is out of touch with NBA fans. Got to agree with PapaG here.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

"Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

Stern to Rome.

Shit just got real.

 

[Pinwheel1]

" Obviously Stern's referring to the loaded question fallacy and not actually implying Rome is a domestic abuser, but would Rome's audience get the philosophy class reference?"

Apparently not.

http://deadspin.com/5918141/david-s...your-wife-yet-as-todays-interview-turned-ugly

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I think that was the purpose of the question. Allowing Stern to dismiss a kook theory with a wave of the hand.

Instead, he started going off on Rome beating his wife, and attacking Rome as a person. Just very odd behavior by Stern.

Stern is just a cranky guy that is out of touch with NBA fans. Got to agree with PapaG here.

agree!

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8...r-david-stern-radio-host-jim-rome-get-lottery

 

[PapaG]

" Obviously Stern's referring to the loaded question fallacy and not actually implying Rome is a domestic abuser, but would Rome's audience get the philosophy class reference?"

Apparently not.

http://deadspin.com/5918141/david-s...your-wife-yet-as-todays-interview-turned-ugly

Of course it's a rhetorical statement, and Stern didn't literally mean Rome beats his wife. Even Rome said as much when a caller brought it up.

Still, for the head of a major professional sports' league, it was an unnecessary reference and a cheap shot. Rome's question was a softball for Stern, and Stern either took it the wrong way, or his comedy routine fell flat.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Dwight Jaynes ‏@dwightjaynes
Wow. It astounds me how many people do not seem to understand the classic "Have you stopped beating your wife" example of a loaded question.


I actually thought the same thing when I heard the interview. I thought it was a good line by Stern

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Hmm--just listened to the audio for the first time, and Rome came off worse to me than Stern did.

There were several points in the interview where Rome felt the need to contradict Stern for no reason--such as how he was feeling today; poke at him trying to evoke a reaction--such as telling him to fly to Seattle if the OKC people are too nice to him; and harp on a point multiple times--such as the issue of whether or not it was a "fair question". Plus, Stern tried multiple times to demonstrate why it was silly by pointing out how a "fix" theory could have been applied to multiple teams winning the lottery, and Rome not only ignored the valid points he was making, but cut him off before he could finish.

It seemed clear to me that Rome steered the conversation to a place of contentiousness and then let his emotions get in the way of him doing his job.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I am not 100% sure, but I think David Stern just won the smack off

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I am not 100% sure, but I think David Stern just won the smack off

You know, it's funny. With as irritated as Rome has gotten over the past 3 weeks with claims by some that the smack-off was fixed, it seems odd that he can't understand why Stern would be irritated by hearing similar claims and questions about the draft lottery over 27 years. You'd think he might have a little sympathy.

 

[PapaG]

Dwight Jaynes ‏@dwightjaynes
Wow. It astounds me how many people do not seem to understand the classic "Have you stopped beating your wife" example of a loaded question.


I actually thought the same thing when I heard the interview. I thought it was a good line by Stern

Anybody listening to the show knows that Rome defended those comments by Stern. A commissioner of a major sport using that sort of rhetorical device in a national interview with the most-listened to host in the USA is what I found stupid.

Then again, I hate David Stern anyhow.

 

[PapaG]

You know, it's funny. With as irritated as Rome has gotten over the past 3 weeks with claims by some that the smack-off was fixed, it seems odd that he can't understand why Stern would be irritated by hearing similar claims and questions about the draft lottery over 27 years. You'd think he might have a little sympathy.

I thought Rome was asking Stern about New Orleans, an NBA-owned team, getting the #1 pick, and Rome pretty much insinuated how stupid he found those charges. Rome asked because apparently it's mentioned quite often in Tweets and emails from his audience.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I thought Rome was asking Stern about New Orleans, an NBA-owned team, getting the #1 pick, and Rome pretty much insinuated how stupid he found those charges. Rome asked because apparently it's mentioned quite often in Tweets and emails from his audience.

Asking once would be fine. Asking multiple times, following with a leading question ("Can't you see how it's a fair question?"), and ignoring the legitimate response when it doesn't jibe with his desired answer--that's what made it contentious. And like I said, Rome was the one who got emotional in the interview, which just felt unprofessional to me. IMO, a good interviewer can ask difficult questions without interrupting or talking over his guests.

 

[PapaG]

Asking once would be fine. Asking multiple times, following with a leading question ("Can't you see how it's a fair question?"), and ignoring the legitimate response when it doesn't jibe with his desired answer--that's what made it contentious. And like I said, Rome was the one who got emotional in the interview, which just felt unprofessional to me. IMO, a good interviewer can ask difficult questions without interrupting or talking over his guests.

I think Rome's post-Chris Everett run as an interviewer is pretty much unparalleled, outside of possibly Dan Patrick.

David Stern has been an asshole in more than just this interview. I hold Stern to a higher standard than I hold a radio host, though, and Stern baiting Rome about how he's made his career was bush league.

It was highly entertaining, though, and in the end, the guy with the mic everyday usually comes out ahead. Rome was already trying to defend Stern, to some degree, by the end of the show.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I've read so much stuff about Stern (good and bad) I don't know what to make of him. But if he is correct, the highest TV ratings for an NBA first game means the league is thriving. Does Stern deserve the credit for this?

 

[PapaG]

I've read so much stuff about Stern (good and bad) I don't know what to make of him. But if he is correct, the highest TV ratings for an NBA first game means the league is thriving. Does Stern deserve the credit for this?

It's not the highest-rated Game One ever, only the highest-rated Game 1 on ABC. It got an 11.6. As a comparison, last year's Super Bowl received a 46.8 (incredible, really), and even the Wisky-Oregon Rose Bowl got an 11.8 on a Monday afternoon on January 2nd.

I do think it says something about the NBA that teams from Miami and OKC can attract so many eyeballs, though.

 

[julius]

your reaction to what someone said to you (accusation, implication etc) says a lot about if you did something or not.

His reaction to the question (cheesy or not) says a lot.

he could've just said 'yeah, people think that, but that's ok. It's not really worth going into, but I will address it" and then addressed it.

 

[PapaG]

your reaction to what someone said to you (accusation, implication etc) says a lot about if you did something or not.

His reaction to the question (cheesy or not) says a lot.

he could've just said 'yeah, people think that, but that's ok. It's not really worth going into, but I will address it" and then addressed it.

That's pretty much my point, and Stern came across as very defensive. Rome gave Stern a chance to wipe it away, and for a league that went through Donaghy recently, and Scott Foster's obvious issues that continue, Stern failed to deliver the message.

I'm guessing most of us who follow the NBA closely have come to accept that the league is rigged, anyhow, and it doesn't really matter to us, at least subconsciously.

 

[Sedatedfork]

I think Rome's post-Chris Everett run as an interviewer is pretty much unparalleled, outside of possibly Dan Patrick.

David Stern has been an asshole in more than just this interview. I hold Stern to a higher standard than I hold a radio host, though, and Stern baiting Rome about how he's made his career was bush league.

It was highly entertaining, though, and in the end, the guy with the mic everyday usually comes out ahead. Rome was already trying to defend Stern, to some degree, by the end of the show.

That's kind of where I thought Stern lost it and then to suggest that he was going to freeze out Rome since he asked that question (or at least lower him in the priority) was kind of stupid. As Julius said, I would have just said that it's a ridiculous suggestion. The lottery is entirely random and observed by independent people, yet people will always believe what they want to believe.

 

[Blaze01]

" Obviously Stern's referring to the loaded question fallacy and not actually implying Rome is a domestic abuser, but would Rome's audience get the philosophy class reference?"

Apparently not.

http://deadspin.com/5918141/david-s...your-wife-yet-as-todays-interview-turned-ugly

Really? I get the reference, but the question you should be asking is whether or not the comissioner of a major sports league ought to be using language\phrases like that in the 1st place....There is such a tihng as being diplomatic, is there not?

Not that I have sympathy for Rome per se, I found the whole interview quite funny actually....