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Berger: Andre Miller For Marcin Gortat?

Ken Berger of CBSSports.com thinks that the Portland Trail Blazers and Orlando Magic might consider exchanging point guard Andre Miller for reserve big man Marcin Gortat...
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Miller could be the elixir for Orlando. All he does is find open shots for his teammates, and Dwight Howard would be thrilled with Miller’s elite talent as a lob-passer. Howard, who will be part of a blockbuster free-agent class in 2012, has quickly grown frustrated with the Magic’s obvious limitations.

The piece that could get it done is Marcin Gortat, who’s a starting center on any team but one that has Howard. Though Gortat’s contract goes out three more years, it’s at a reasonable rate for a starting center -- topping out at $7.7 million in 2013-14, when Gortat has an early-termination option.

Blazers GM Rich Cho has liked Gortat since his days working as Sam Presti’s right-hand man in Oklahoma City, so such a deal would seem to make sense from all angles. Gortat would give Portland a reasonable insurance policy in case Oden never becomes worthy of his No. 1 overall selection in 2007, and Roy would have the ball in his hands more -- which is something he can’t have when playing alongside Miller. Whether Roy’s knees will hold up under those demands is a valid question, but one Portland may very well need answered one way or another.
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Berger also writes that "executives working the phones during these early days of trade inquiry say" that Portland is one of "the teams that appear most determined to make deals before the Feb. 24 deadline."

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There are probably worse trades available for Miller, but I'm having trouble thinking of any.

Plus, why bring in Gortat when he would just end up injured in a few months.
 
Gortat can play. He's 26 and a servicable big man. Acquiring him would let us trade Joel and/or Camby and still remain at the same level of competitiveness we are now, even if we just get future considerations (draft picks, etc.) for the big guys we trade... and we get younger at the 5 spot.

I dunno what else we could get for Miller, but I think that would be a pretty good return if we're going to trade our veterans and punt on this year.

Ed O.
 
Gortat can play. He's 26 and a servicable big man. Acquiring him would let us trade Joel and/or Camby and still remain at the same level of competitiveness we are now, even if we just get future considerations (draft picks, etc.) for the big guys we trade... and we get younger at the 5 spot.

I dunno what else we could get for Miller, but I think that would be a pretty good return if we're going to trade our veterans and punt on this year.

Ed O.

Who plays the point? Patty Mills? Would anyone have thought last summer when we had Miller and Bayless that our starting point guard in December could be Patty freakin Mills?
 
Horrible? Getting a starting center for an old guard with less than one year on his deal is horrible? What is your idea of good?

Gortat's career high in mpg in a season is 15.8 this year. Saying he is a starting center doesn't mean he can be one. I do realize he's had Howard in front of him, but he hasn't proven to be a reliable starter.
 
Who plays the point? Patty Mills? Would anyone have thought last summer when we had Miller and Bayless that our starting point guard in December could be Patty freakin Mills?

Things are going south so quickly for the Blazers today that I forgot my daily outrage over Bayless being traded for nothing this season. Thanks for reminding me, NateBishop!
 
Not too horrible, IMO. We're not gonna get a young up-and-coming All-Star PG for Andre. But it does leave us pretty thin at PG.
 
Horrible? Getting a starting center for an old guard with less than one year on his deal is horrible? What is your idea of good?

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/marcin_gortat/

4 points, 5 boards a game?

We need a PG. Jameer Nelson is better than Gortat. IF we give them a starting PG we should get one in return. He'd help this team immensely, more than a shlub of a center.
 
Jesus. Then its Imaginary Cap Space, trading a 20/10 NBA Allstar PF + carrying 2 years of shitty contracts + not using RLEC for a guy who averages 5 points per game?
 
Gortat's career high in mpg in a season is 15.8 this year. Saying he is a starting center doesn't mean he can be one. I do realize he's had Howard in front of him, but he hasn't proven to be a reliable starter.

Good luck with that one dude. Gortat is widely recognized as a starting level center in this league, and was highly courted when he was a restricted free agent. If Orlando hadn't matched, he would be Dallas starting center now. Gortat was extremely pissed he didn't get to leave because he wants to start somewhere. Last time I looked, Dallas does a pretty fucking good job at picking personnel. If you want to poo poo it, have at it.
 
I just can't interpret this to mean anything other than keeping Roy happy. Right on the heels of reports that Roy supposedly demanded that Miller be traded. Coincidence?

Does this mean we're moving Joel for a point guard?
 
Oh this is smart! Andre has saved this teams ass more than Roy in the last two years without question, he's NEVER hurt and he's consistent! WHAT THE HELL ARE THE BLAZERS DOING?
 
I just can't interpret this to mean anything other than keeping Roy happy. Right on the heels of reports that Roy supposedly demanded that Miller be traded. Coincidence?

Does this mean we're moving Joel for a point guard?

more addition by subtraction!
 
We need more scoring. Gortat does not supply that. I think we should save our best trade assets until that is addressed. Maybe at the trade deadline, with no other options, you make that move. But certainly right now that would not help.
 
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Good luck with that one dude. Gortat is widely recognized as a starting level center in this league, and was highly courted when he was a restricted free agent. If Orlando hadn't matched, he would be Dallas starting center now. Gortat was extremely pissed he didn't get to leave because he wants to start somewhere. Last time I looked, Dallas does a pretty fucking good job at picking personnel. If you want to poo poo it, have at it.

That's not really saying much, is it? Also, I only pointed out that Gortat has never played starter minutes, or even legitimate back-up minutes, in his career. Please point out where anything I posted about Gortat was factually inaccurate.
 
more addition by subtraction!

This swap would NOT be dumping Miller. It would be adding a starting-level center who's just entering his prime.

He might not ever be a quality starter, but good backup 7 footers are pretty valuable, and I doubt that Miller brings us back anything superior in the trade market.

Ed O.
 
Oh this is smart! Andre has saved this teams ass more than Roy in the last two years without question, he's NEVER hurt and he's consistent! WHAT THE HELL ARE THE BLAZERS DOING?

Yeah. Lets trade the only healthy blazer, who was the NBA leader in games played consecutively to a less than average center to satisfy the SG with no knees and the most immovable contract in the NBA!
 
Yeah. Lets trade the only healthy blazer, who was the NBA leader in games played consecutively to a less than average center to satisfy the SG with no knees and the most immovable contract in the NBA!

Well when you put it like that...... I support this trade.
 
That's not really saying much, is it? Also, I only pointed out that Gortat has never played starter minutes, or even legitimate back-up minutes, in his career. Please point out where anything I posted about Gortat was factually inaccurate.

And at what part of his career was he not playing behind Howard? How many centers would take minutes from Howard? Who would you rather have in? Gortat or Howard? We are talking about him playing behind one of the top centers in the league, for his whole career. Who would you expect to take minutes from Howard? The only guys I can think of, are all legends.
 
And at what part of his career was he not playing behind Howard? How many centers would take minutes from Howard? Who would you rather have in? Gortat or Howard? We are talking about him playing behind one of the top centers in the league, for his whole career. Who would you expect to take minutes from Howard? The only guys I can think of, are all legends.

I already posted that he has had to play behind Howard. Me also pointing out that he hasn't proven to be a decent starting center in the NBA is also a fact. Could he be? Sure. Has he been? No. Fairly easy logic, isn't it?
 
You would have to pull the trigger on this trade. Small for big, and old for young.
 
I would certainly consider this deal but I would be more inclined to use Joel or Camby then Miller since losing Miller leave Portland without a dependable point guard.

Honestly, I think Orlando would shit themselves if we offered Camby for Gortat. The could move Rashard to the bench and have the best shot-blocking front court in the league.

Camby is an excellent passer out of the high post.
Orlando would fucking stupid to not take that deal.

As for Portland, they get a younger center who wants minutes he will never get in Orlando.

I actually did a similar deal via the trade machine where I dealt Camby, Rudy and Batum to Orlando for Gortat, Pietrus and Ryan Anderson.
According to the ESPN trade machine that trade was worth -10 games for Orlando.


As far as getting back Jameer Nelson, if that's the best they can do I guess it would be ok.
Not a real thriller though.
 

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