Kidd #7 on All-Time PG List
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I feel Cousy and Frazier are overrated. I'd take prime Payton's D over Frazier's. I'd definitely put Kidd on my Top 5.
Magic is just one of a kind.
Magic is just one of a kind.
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Very early in the season when stats are misleading but could Kidd join the Big O by season's end?
11.2 points, 10.0 assists, 9.2 rebounds over 9 games.
11.2 points, 10.0 assists, 9.2 rebounds over 9 games.
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I would have Oscar first and Magic second. To me Oscar is the greatest player of all time. Kidd would be a distant 3rd on my list, just a hair above Stockton.</p>
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Frazier? Good but overrated. Didn't really have a long run of productive years, either.</p>
What's up with Jerry West out of the top 10 unless they consider him somehow as a shooting combo guard rather than a pure point?</p>
Mo Cheeks. Underrated.</p>
What's up with Jerry West out of the top 10 unless they consider him somehow as a shooting combo guard rather than a pure point?</p>
Mo Cheeks. Underrated.</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>What do you base this statement on?</div></p>
On my opinion.</p>
If I'm not mistaken, some time ago, there was a huge thread where some great points were made concerning Kidd and his place on the All-Time PG list. It was before the merge, so it's pretty impossible to dig up.</p>
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Here's one point I'd like to make. I believe that Kidd gets less respect, because he hasn't won himself a ring. Other than Stockton, each of the players above Jason, have won at least one championship. Now don't get me wrong, I'm trying to take anything away from them. However, championships don't neccesarliy define a player. Kobe hasn't won a ring, since the departure of Shaq, does that make him worse? Should that be taken into account when he retires?</p>
I mean, I just think Kidd has played the PG position better than those 3. Yes, Cousy was the first great point guard. Yes Frazier had that 36 and 19 game, but still.</p>
On my opinion.</p>
If I'm not mistaken, some time ago, there was a huge thread where some great points were made concerning Kidd and his place on the All-Time PG list. It was before the merge, so it's pretty impossible to dig up.</p>
</p>
Here's one point I'd like to make. I believe that Kidd gets less respect, because he hasn't won himself a ring. Other than Stockton, each of the players above Jason, have won at least one championship. Now don't get me wrong, I'm trying to take anything away from them. However, championships don't neccesarliy define a player. Kobe hasn't won a ring, since the departure of Shaq, does that make him worse? Should that be taken into account when he retires?</p>
I mean, I just think Kidd has played the PG position better than those 3. Yes, Cousy was the first great point guard. Yes Frazier had that 36 and 19 game, but still.</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>What do you base this statement on?</div></p>
On my opinion.</p>
If I'm not mistaken, some time ago, there was a huge thread where some great points were made concerning Kidd and his place on the All-Time PG list. It was before the merge, so it's pretty impossible to dig up.</p>
</p>
Here's one point I'd like to make. I believe that Kidd gets less respect, because he hasn't won himself a ring. Other than Stockton, each of the players above Jason, have won at least one championship. Now don't get me wrong, I'm trying to take anything away from them. However, championships don't neccesarliy define a player. Kobe hasn't won a ring, since the departure of Shaq, does that make him worse? Should that be taken into account when he retires?</p>
I mean, I just think Kidd has played the PG position better than those 3. Yes, Cousy was the first great point guard. Yes Frazier had that 36 and 19 game, but still.</p>
</div>That's cool. I was scared you were going say assist numbers, which would be unfair because they used to count them a lot differently in Cousy's time so it was a lot harder to get them.</p>
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>What do you base this statement on?</div></p>
On my opinion.</p>
If I'm not mistaken, some time ago, there was a huge thread where some great points were made concerning Kidd and his place on the All-Time PG list. It was before the merge, so it's pretty impossible to dig up.</p>
</p>
Here's one point I'd like to make. I believe that Kidd gets less respect, because he hasn't won himself a ring. Other than Stockton, each of the players above Jason, have won at least one championship. Now don't get me wrong, I'm trying to take anything away from them. However, championships don't neccesarliy define a player. Kobe hasn't won a ring, since the departure of Shaq, does that make him worse? Should that be taken into account when he retires?</p>
I mean, I just think Kidd has played the PG position better than those 3. Yes, Cousy was the first great point guard. Yes Frazier had that 36 and 19 game, but still.</p>
</div>That's cool. I was scared you were going say assist numbers, which would be unfair because they used to count them a lot differently in Cousy's time so it was a lot harder to get them.</p>
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