KP says "It's not gonna happen."

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RickyRubio said:
You really think he would only play 15 minutes a game? Really?
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He might play more but then LMA, Oden or Joel would have to play less. I don't want to see Oden play less he needs to develop. I also don't want LMA to play less either. Unless we trade LMA we don't need to pay someone 10 million a year to be a backup PF when you can get Bass who is perfect for a backup PF at half that price.
 
Tortimer said:
He might play more but then LMA, Oden or Joel would have to play less. I don't want to see Oden play less he needs to develop. I also don't want LMA to play less either. Unless we trade LMA we don't need to pay someone 10 million a year to be a backup PF when you can get Bass who is perfect for a backup PF at half that price.
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Actually, Orlando signed him for less then half of that.
 
Tince said:
No, I want to have logical discussions and not have to filter out 50% of the posts where people are totally overreacting or making zero sense. I'm fine with people who are bummed we haven't made a move, but I'm tired of the people who say our franchise is falling part because we haven't made a move 3 days into free agency.
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The mixum-like reactions are over the top, I agree. But it's the people who have been bummed by having not made a move to improve our roster yet who are sometimes getting burned at the stake for saying so, and the response being is that "Be patient", "KP will get things done", "You whiners are so stupid" and etc.

KP has one of the hardest jobs in the sports, and not every move he'll make will be gold. And he won't get everything he wants. Our offseason hasn't exactly gone to Plan A, and right now, I'd just be happy to see Roy and Aldridge sign their extensions and get what they want.
 
LittleAlex said:
Actually, Orlando signed him for less then half of that.
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I see that. What the hell is KP thinking. I use to think KP could do no wrong but I have almost given up on him. After letting the Rlec go for nothing which at the time I thought maybe he was right. Now we are almost the only team not improving. If this rumor is correct about Millsap I have competely given up any hope KP is even remotely a good GM. If I was PA I would fire him if we sign Millsap for that much money and he is our backup PF. What a joke!
 
alex42083 said:
The mixum-like reactions are over the top, I agree. But it's the people who have been bummed by having not made a move to improve our roster yet who are sometimes getting burned at the stake for saying so, and the response being is that "Be patient", "KP will get things done", "You whiners are so stupid" and etc.

KP has one of the hardest jobs in the sports, and not every move he'll make will be gold. And he won't get everything he wants. Our offseason hasn't exactly gone to Plan A, and right now, I'd just be happy to see Roy and Aldridge sign their extensions and get what they want.
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But Alex, most of them don't say, "I'm bummed we haven't made a move YET." They are saying "KP is an idiot", "The rich get richer, while the pritch get pritcher.", "This is the worst off-season every." They remind me of the kid who has parents that love them and have done so many good things for them, but one day they don't let them get ice cream with their friends and the kid yells, "you're the worst parents ever!" Except, that's something a child does, not adults.

I mean, the season is so far away, and something good still can happen, and a move of some-sort will likely happen. It's almost as if people expect the Blazers to speed up and make a move to satisfy their instant gratification needs.
 
sometimes its better to be a TIMBERS Fan.....this much be Karma for killing the Beavers Memorial Stadium,.,,,,
 
Tince said:
It's almost as if people expect the Blazers to speed up and make a move to satisfy their instant gratification needs.
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No, they need to speed up and make a move because all of the possible deals are being sucked off the table by other general managers who are actually attempting to improve their teams.

This whole "be patient, you never know what's going to happen tomorrow" company line is beginning to wear a little thin to me. You'll have to excuse me if I'm not a lemming who thinks only good things will happen when only bad things have happened.

I'm a fan. I reserve the right to be pissed off and not just accept mediocrity. I also reserve the right to change course on a dime if KP actually does something.
 
that they've been saying they would be doing for the last two years since this crapspace has been earmarked.
 
RoyToy said:
It's exactly what it is.
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No it is not for me. I'm very patient with KP but this is way to much. There were things he could have done to improve this team in the last year and he has passed. I thought he had something better planned for this summer. I know this summer isn't over yet and we will see what happens but everyone just going with lets be patient isn't seeing what really is happening. KP is blowing his biggest chance to improve this team.
 
Tortimer said:
No it is not for me. I'm very patient with KP but this is way to much. There were things he could have done to improve this team in the last year and he has passed. I thought he had something better planned for this summer. I know this summer isn't over yet and we will see what happens but everyone just going with lets be patient isn't seeing what really is happening. KP is blowing his biggest chance to improve this team.
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So what should KP do to improve the team that he hasn't already tried?
 
Tince said:
But Alex, most of them don't say, "I'm bummed we haven't made a move YET." They are saying "KP is an idiot", "The rich get richer, while the pritch get pritcher.", "This is the worst off-season every." They remind me of the kid who has parents that love them and have done so many good things for them, but one day they don't let them get ice cream with their friends and the kid yells, "you're the worst parents ever!" Except, that's something a child does, not adults.

I mean, the season is so far away, and something good still can happen, and a move of some-sort will likely happen. It's almost as if people expect the Blazers to speed up and make a move to satisfy their instant gratification needs.
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All right, I see your point. But it sure makes for good reading and entertainment, that's why we keep coming back, right? :ghoti: I just don't mind the overreactions or emotional outbursts personally. Least it shows people care about this team.
 
alex42083 said:
All right, I see your point. But it sure makes for good reading and entertainment, that's why we keep coming back, right? :ghoti: I just don't mind the overreactions or emotional outbursts personally. Least it shows people care about this team.
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I think it shows our fan base needs more Ritalin.
 
SodaPopinski said:
No, they need to speed up and make a move because all of the possible deals are being sucked off the table by other general managers who are actually attempting to improve their teams.

This whole "be patient, you never know what's going to happen tomorrow" company line is beginning to wear a little thin to me. You'll have to excuse me if I'm not a lemming who thinks only good things will happen when only bad things have happened.

I'm a fan. I reserve the right to be pissed off and not just accept mediocrity. I also reserve the right to change course on a dime if KP actually does something.
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You certainly can, all my point was that it's a reflection of ones inpatients and in my opinion, short-sidedness.

Just like the kid has the right to scream, "You're the worst parents ever!" after a couple things don't go their way, despite the fact their parents have overall been nothing but great to them.

I didn't mean to question the rights of any Blazer fan, just point out the silliness of their reactions.
 
Tince said:
But Alex, most of them don't say, "I'm bummed we haven't made a move YET." They are saying "KP is an idiot", "The rich get richer, while the pritch get pritcher.", "This is the worst off-season every." They remind me of the kid who has parents that love them and have done so many good things for them, but one day they don't let them get ice cream with their friends and the kid yells, "you're the worst parents ever!" Except, that's something a child does, not adults.

I mean, the season is so far away, and something good still can happen, and a move of some-sort will likely happen. It's almost as if people expect the Blazers to speed up and make a move to satisfy their instant gratification needs.
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I think the problem has been that the team for the last two years has targeted this off season as the one where they are going to make a move that help the team get to the next level.

Really, they set expectations too high. Is it any surprise that people are bummed when reality sets in?

I don't think so.

Even though there is a lot of off season left, the potential moves are growing smaller by the day.

I am still hopeful something good will come out of this off season.

But I think anyone would admit it sure doesn't look too good right now.
 
RoyToy said:
So what should KP do to improve the team that he hasn't already tried?
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He should have signed Brandon Bass for 18 million over 4 years.

It is obvious he didn't try that, since that is what Bass signed for with the Magic.

If he wanted Hedo, he should have waived Outlaw so Portland had more money then anyone else to offer him.
 
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SodaPopinski said:
No, they need to speed up and make a move because all of the possible deals are being sucked off the table by other general managers who are actually attempting to improve their teams.

This whole "be patient, you never know what's going to happen tomorrow" company line is beginning to wear a little thin to me. You'll have to excuse me if I'm not a lemming who thinks only good things will happen when only bad things have happened.

I'm a fan. I reserve the right to be pissed off and not just accept mediocrity. I also reserve the right to change course on a dime if KP actually does something.
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Yep.

It is true that the cap space MAY become more valuable over time, and of course we don't want KP to make a bad move... but c'mon. Orlando, in particular, has added pieces that would have dramatically improved the Blazers in the next few years.

I still love our team and see our window really opening 2-3 years from now, but the present inactivity is gnawing at me.

Ed O.
 
RoyToy said:
So what should KP do to improve the team that he hasn't already tried?
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I know a lot of people won't agree but first we need to sign Bass for our backup PF and forget the stupid Millsap shit. Next we need to try and do a sign and trade if possible for an upgrade at PG. I'm not sure we can get this done but I will put my effort into findinag a PG upgrade and not worrying about KP's love for Blake. I like Miller, Conley, Harris, Felton and almost any other starting PG and some backups as a upgrade over Blake. We don't need to spend 10 million per year on a backup PF no matter how good he is and I love Millsap's game. Millsap can't even play center. I'm not a huge D.Lee fan but he makes a lot more sense then Millsap. At least Lee would be able to fill in for some backup center and backup PF.
 
alex42083 said:
Ha yeah.. and RLEC was the best expiring contract in the history of the NBA. We've seen that before. haha.
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I've been meaning to ask you where did you get your avatar? Very cool btw.
 
LittleAlex said:
I think the problem has been that the team for the last two years has targeted this off season as the one where they are going to make a move that help the team get to the next level.
Really, they set expectations too high. Is it any surprise that people are bummed when reality sets in?

I don't think so.

Even though there is a lot of off season left, the potential moves are growing smaller by the day.

I am still hopeful something good will come out of this off season.

But I think anyone would admit it sure doesn't look too good right now.
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Have they targeted this season for the last two years? I thought KP I believe said something like we've progress faster than we expected so we think now is the time to add a player or two?
 
SodaPopinski said:
No, they need to speed up and make a move because all of the possible deals are being sucked off the table by other general managers who are actually attempting to improve their teams.

This whole "be patient, you never know what's going to happen tomorrow" company line is beginning to wear a little thin to me. You'll have to excuse me if I'm not a lemming who thinks only good things will happen when only bad things have happened.

I'm a fan. I reserve the right to be pissed off and not just accept mediocrity. I also reserve the right to change course on a dime if KP actually does something.
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Mediocrity? Really? With our record last year? Sure we lost in the first round, but how long has it been since we got there? We've made so much progress and even if we do nothing we'll improve this season. You call that mediocrity? If so give me mediocrity any time!
 
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