Kyle Lowry?

[Fez Hammersticks]

It sounds like the Rockets could look to move Lowry and sign Dragic long-term:

Rockets GM Daryl Morey is also quoted in the article saying the team "plans to sign" Goran Dragic, who is a free agent this summer and has been linked to the Portland Trail Blazers in rumors. Morey said the two point guards can play together but Lowry sees the team facing a Lowry-or-Dragic decision.
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"We’re both capable starters. We both want it. It’s going to have to be a situation where they make a decision on one of us. It has nothing to do with Goran. I’m not happy with the way coaches handled things. If management wants to do something to keep Goran, I think I’ll have to be moved."

[via B-Edge]

He started off the season putting up Rondo type of numbers but really leveled off, still solid though.

The numbers:

14.3 PPG | 4.6 RPG | 6.6 APG | 40 FG% | 37 3PT%

18.9 PER | 104 DRtg

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[bigbailes]

ugh ... without looking up any numbers and going by the eye test i really want dragic over lowry. besides that we'd have to trade for lowry which means giving up assests and cap room vs. just cap room for dragic.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

For the record -- I would hope the Blazers have higher hopes (Rondo, Williams?) for the PG position. Lowry doesn't excite me, even though he's solid on both ends of the court. There's just not a lot of upside left with Kyle. He's solid but not a game changer. His assists and shooting% are nearly identical to Felton.

 

[bigbailes]

For the record -- I would hope the Blazers have higher hopes (Rondo, Williams?) for the PG position. Lowry doesn't excite me, even though he's solid on both ends of the court. There's just not a lot of upside left with Kyle. He's solid but not a game changer. His assists and shooting% are nearly identical to Felton.

i would tend to agree. if lowry is our pg next season it will be because we whiffed big time on everyone else. if that happens i really hope we at least have marshall in uniform ready to take over in a year or two.

 

[jlprk]

Yeah, I got on the board just now to post this, but I see there's a thread for it.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/e...wry-seeks-trade-because-of-coach-kevin-mchale

So I guess I won't.

 

[Natebishop3]

Is Dragic restricted?

 

[STOMP]

He started off the season putting up Rondo type of numbers but really leveled off, still solid though.

Comparing him to Felton is laughable. Dude had a serious bacterial infection and couldn't eat solid food for weeks. He came back but was literally a shadow of himself. The illness and Goran emerging are why his stats faded but he should be back to form next season. Here's the stats that matter from the start of the season to when he went out March 8th.

35.4 Min, 15.9 pnts. on 42%, 1.9 3's made per game at 39%, 4.5 FTM at 87%, 7.2 Assts vs 3.2 TOs, 1.8 Stls, 5.3 RBs

Portland hasn't had PG production like that in decades. He'll be 26 years old next season and is under contract for two more seasons on the cheap at about 6M per

Is Dragic restricted?

nope

STOMP

 

[RR7]

35.4 Min, 15.9 pnts. on 42%, 1.9 3's made per game at 39%, 4.5 FTM at 87%, 7.2 Assts vs 3.2 TOs, 1.8 Stls, 5.3 RBs

Portland hasn't had PG production like that in decades.
STOMP

31.4 Min., 12.9 ppg on 44% shooting, 1.2 3s @ 38%, 6.9 apg vs. 2.8 TOpg. The production of Felton after the AS break last season. The numbers are even slightly better than that if you break down for specifically after McMillan was fired. If you are taking a small sample of before injury, I'll take a small sample of after McMillan. Where's the huge difference there? Production like that in decades? We just had production like that at the end of THIS season. And it's more a comparison if you look at what Felton did last season, the PG we thought we were trading for, and Lowry, the one we'd be trading for. Only difference I can find is that everyone hates Felton SO much, Lowry looks like a giant upgrade, when it's marginal at best.

 

[bigbailes]

looking closer at his numbers and i'm convinced this is who we'll end up with. dragic will sign with the rockets and somehow we will end up trading the #11 pick for lowry, even though he's made it abundantly clear he doesn't want to be there. i'm not saying this is horrible but it seems to be the sort of questionable, ho-hum acquisition the blazers make.

 

[illmatic99]

I'd much rather have Dragic.

I also hope we have our sights set a bit higher than KLow.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Ugh, if anything this means Drajic will be a premium price this summer.

Lowry sounds like he could be disgruntled and at 6 million yr could be a good addition. Don't know enough about him, but he might be more of a bargin than Drajic who could command 8-9 million yr?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Watch this turn out to be some giant fucking to where the Rockets re-sign Drajic and trade Lowry to the Lakers for Gasol.

 

[e_blazer]

31.4 Min., 12.9 ppg on 44% shooting, 1.2 3s @ 38%, 6.9 apg vs. 2.8 TOpg. The production of Felton after the AS break last season. The numbers are even slightly better than that if you break down for specifically after McMillan was fired. If you are taking a small sample of before injury, I'll take a small sample of after McMillan. Where's the huge difference there? Production like that in decades? We just had production like that at the end of THIS season. And it's more a comparison if you look at what Felton did last season, the PG we thought we were trading for, and Lowry, the one we'd be trading for. Only difference I can find is that everyone hates Felton SO much, Lowry looks like a giant upgrade, when it's marginal at best.

Are there stats anywhere on how many times a PG dribbles off of his foot or turns the ball over at critical points of the game?

 

[e_blazer]

Watch this turn out to be some giant fucking to where the Rockets re-sign Drajic and trade Lowry to the Lakers for Gasol.

Lowry and what additional $12 million or so in salaries are the Rockets trading to match Pau's contract?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Lowry and what additional $12 million or so in salaries are the Rockets trading to match Pau's contract?

Well these two teams actually have GM's so I'm sure they'll figure it out.

 

[e_blazer]

Nolan Smith, Shawn Williams & a second rounder for Lowry on draft day?

Is he worth that package swapping No. 11 for the 2nd rounder if the Rockets play hardball?

 

[e_blazer]

Well these two teams actually have GM's so I'm sure they'll figure it out.

Did MM steal your password?

 

[e_blazer]

Is he worth that package swapping No. 11 for the 2nd rounder if the Rockets play hardball?

To answer my own question - Nah, I'd rather use the pick on Marshall.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Did MM steal your password?

 

[Sinobas]

If we want Dragic, wouldn't we be better off trying to give him an offer that Houston wouldn't match? Kyle has 2 years left on a reasonable contract worth 5-6 million per year, so the Rockets won't necessarily feel pressured to trade him. But if we could get him for only the #11, we'd still have a lot of money left to throw at Roy Hibbert.

 

[Blazinaway]

If we want Dragic, wouldn't we be better off trying to give him an offer that Houston wouldn't match? Kyle has 2 years left on a reasonable contract worth 5-6 million per year, so the Rockets won't necessarily feel pressured to trade him. But if we could get him for only the #11, we'd still have a lot of money left to throw at Roy Hibbert.

Hibbert is a pipe dream (Indy will match) and a waste of 3 key days when the offer is committed and we can't go after other players that we may have a realistic chance at

 

[Mediocre Man]

You guys are really underestimating Lowry, IMO. He is an elite level PG

 

[Blazinaway]

You guys are really underestimating Lowry, IMO. He is an elite level PG

I agree, like we have any "realistic" chance to get someone better, plus he's on a nice deal. I still lake Dragic but have to wonder if he may get overpaid as well

 

[Run BJM]

Hes not elite but hes damn good. Been a big fan of his since his Villanova days.

 

[SecretAgentMan]

“I don’t think so,” Lowry said about whether he and McHale can continue. “I honestly think it would be tough. Things have to be addressed. The situation would have to be addressed.

“If things aren’t addressed coaching-wise, I guess I have to be moved.”

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/news/#ixzz1w0kpJujx

 

[BBert]

Hes not elite but hes damn good.

That's my reaction too. It's looking like Lowry is the best we can hope for. But people will still cry about it if we end up with him, as if we should have done better, because I want, I want, I want. Nope, no spoiled delusional fans here. Yeah, I think I'd rather have Dragic, but I bet Lowry's defense is better. My only concern at this point is his spouting off about not being annointed the starter, and his bitching about the coach and saying 'trade me'. Not good signs IMO. Talent wise though, I'll be shocked if we do better.

 

[jlprk]

Some guys here dislike Rudy for trying to get traded, but he was a piker compared to Lowry.

Imagine if Rudy had said that he preferred not to play for McMillan, instead of for the NBA as a whole.

 

[Sinobas]

So what if it's between Lowry for the #11, with 2 years left at ~6 mil, and Lin as a free agent at ~9-10 mil.

These guards were looking at, Lowery, Lin, Dragic have each been good only in a relativly short time span. It was long enough that we know it's not just a fluke...but even Raymond Felton has had good streaches.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I saw one Houston game live this year against Cp3 and the Clips, where both Dragic and Lowry played. And both had decent games. But I remember walking away from the game wishing we had Lowery and not even thinking about Dragic. Not sure why that was the case other than Lowry just impressed me more. This was early in the season and I was not even thinking it was possible to pry him away from the Rockets. I would be content with either one though.

 

[RR7]

Are there stats anywhere on how many times a PG dribbles off of his foot or turns the ball over at critical points of the game?

4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points

Lowry: 5.7 assists per 48, 6.2 TOs, 1.1 steals.
Felton: 9.2 assists per 48, 3.3 TOs, 2.0 steals.
Dragic: 8.2 assists per 48, 5.1 TOs, 1.9 steals.