LeBron James To Be Named MVP

[JE]

45-37 with this piss ass team.

Remember, Bynum wasnt playing, Ronny had heart surgery, Von Wafer was cut, and Smush Parker is now playing in China...Kobe won games all by himself. PHX minus Nash is WAAAAAYYYYYY better than Lakers minus Kobe that year

As usual, your shit holds absolutely no water. You can't accurately say what each team would have done if they were minus each player. Fuck, all Phoenix had was wing players and Kurt Thomas. They would have been harpooned in the half court offense every single time. They might have won 24 games to the Lakers' 20.

 

[JE]

Nash's offensive production per possession has been measured already, he didn't even break 15 wins on a 54 win team. The way he made his teammates better is directly calculated in offensive rating, which is a team stat as well.

Holy shit, and you said I sucked at reading? Watch the fucking games, you can't add a bunch of basketball stats together and expect to get a legitamite reflection of anything other than you wasting your time.

Teams that win more have a huge edge in win shares, yet he clearly doesn't even break even with Kobe at 15.

Thanks, don't think I could have put that one together on my own. Pretty meaningless stuff.

He's not durable, or complete enough on both ends to be the MVP that year, it's not hard to understand.

You're seriously trying to say 'well, Kobe's the better player so he should have won'? LMFAO.

 

[huevonkiller]

Holy shit, and you said I sucked at reading? Watch the fucking games, you can't add a bunch of basketball stats together and expect to get a legitamite reflection of anything other than you wasting your time.



Thanks, don't think I could have put that one together on my own. Pretty meaningless stuff.



You're seriously trying to say 'well, Kobe's the better player so he should have won'? LMFAO.

Your position is that Nash won more with less, or contributed more with wins. Going against Nash is that he plays a lot fewer possessions than Kobe, meaning that is the equivalent of being injured during the season, playing less minutes and thereby hurting your team. Minutes should factor heavily into this discussion especially for a one dimensional player with talent around him. Clearly win shares are the most relevant stat in this case then, and there is no other barometer as relevant.

 

[JE]

Your position is that Nash won more with less, or contributed more with wins.

Probably because he did.

Going against Nash is that he plays a lot fewer possessions than Kobe, meaning that is the equivalent of being injured during the season, playing less minutes and thereby hurting your team.

Okay, and?

Minutes should factor heavily into this discussion especially for a one dimensional player with talent around him. Clearly win shares are the most relevant stat in this case then, and there is no other barometer as relevant.

Sustained FAIL.

 

[rocketeer]

Huge blemish on the NBA IMO. Tell me how 05-06 wasnt deserving of a Kobe MVP?!? His stats

He only dragged a piece of shit team into the playoffs almost single handily, plays good to great D, scores the 2nd most points in NBA history, and AVERAGES 35.4 ppg.

check lebron's stats that year. 31.4 points, 7 rebounds, 6.6 assists, 48% shooting. not that lebron should have necessarily won in that year, but it should have basically been flipping a coin between lebron and kobe. nash shouldn't have been in the picture.

kobe shouldn't have won last year's mvp though. that should have been lebron's as well. however, kobe should have won dirk's award.

 

[huevonkiller]

Probably because he did.

Assists = end thread? That is your stance.

Okay, and?



Sustained FAIL.

One of the fewest amounts of minutes played for an MVP winner does not factor into this discussion? Tough sell on that.

 

[DaRizzle]

check lebron's stats that year. 31.4 points, 7 rebounds, 6.6 assists, 48% shooting. not that lebron should have necessarily won in that year, but it should have basically been flipping a coin between lebron and kobe. nash shouldn't have been in the picture.

kobe shouldn't have won last year's mvp though. that should have been lebron's as well. however, kobe should have won dirk's award.

fair enough...at least YOU realize Nashs MVP was bunk

 

[Minstrel]

check lebron's stats that year. 31.4 points, 7 rebounds, 6.6 assists, 48% shooting. not that lebron should have necessarily won in that year, but it should have basically been flipping a coin between lebron and kobe. nash shouldn't have been in the picture.

kobe shouldn't have won last year's mvp though. that should have been lebron's as well. however, kobe should have won dirk's award.

I agree with this.

 

[MAS RipCity]

and now lebron's ego grows larger...lame..guy just ooozes douchebaggery

 

[julius]

Roy got 9th...and I wanted to come up with reasons why that pissed me off, but I couldn't.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Roy got 9th...and I wanted to come up with reasons why that pissed me off, but I couldn't.

Hey, does this mean that Ed O has to acknowledge Roy as a Top 10 talent (i.e., a superstar)?

 

[LameR]

No shit. D'Antoni and his SSOL offense turned a very very good player into something he wasn't. Besides, how the hell can a guy who doesn't play defense win an MVP, let alone two.

This is somehow the first time that I realized that SSOL is LOSS backwards.