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Pretty in-depth article about Dame & being recruited to LA by LeBron, his relationship with Billups and more.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2022/10/12/23399283/damian-lillard-portland-trail-blazers

Abridged version below.

Damian Lillard was sitting at a table at LeBron James’s mansion, with the biggest decision of his career in front of him.
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Lillard was seated across from James and Anthony Davis, who needed help in their quest for another title. That evening, they indulged in expensive wine and Italian cuisine and discussed their plans for the future. “We just chopped it up just about the possibilities,” Lillard said.
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After years of stagnation, including four first-round exits wrapped around a trip to the 2019 West finals, Lillard was open to seeing what the rest of the league had to offer. And for a moment at LeBron’s table, the Lakers duo was making a compelling case for Lillard to leave, enough to form a fleeting idea of donning the purple and gold. “I mean, of course I thought about it,” Lillard said. “Like, man, what if that happened? What if I did go? I thought about it. At that point, I was thinking about a lot of things.
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By the end of the night, Lillard had a clearer picture of his future.

“I want to win as a Trail Blazer,” Lillard said. “I want to win a championship where I am. I don’t think I would feel the same joy and happiness if I did it elsewhere. I would be happy, no doubt. Like winning a chip, you get that experience.

“But I know how I want it.”

in January 2022, Lillard sat across from his old pal and new head coach Chauncey Billups and asked a more pointed question: “What are we doing?”
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“The biggest message that I wanted to send to Dame,” Billups told me, “was that this thing needs to be built around making sure we bring people around that can actually help him be better.”
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Billups, in his first year as a head coach, also has had a relationship with Lillard for more than a decade. In 2014, during Billups’s final year in Detroit, the Pistons took a trip West to play Portland. Jared Jeffries told Billups, then near the end of his career, to watch out for the kid from Oakland. “He was like, ‘I got your twin, bro. This dude is your twin,’” Billups said. “Y’all play, y’all act alike. This is your twin.”
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Billups would send congratulatory texts after big games and offer pointers. When the Blazers lost Game 5 to Denver in the 2019 Western Conference semifinals, falling behind 3-2 in the series, Billups, then a TV analyst, sought out Lillard in an arena hallway. “I saw him in the back and he was like, ‘Hey, man, this is it right here,’” Lillard said. “He almost got at me like, ‘You got to come on with it. Y’all facing elimination.’ I deal best with people that are straight to the point.” Lillard dropped 32 points in Game 6, a Portland win, then overcame a poor shooting night to post a near triple-double on the road in Game 7, sealing the first Western Conference finals berth of his career.
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But looking forward meant parting with the past. CJ McCollum had been by Lillard’s side every season since his sophomore year, experiencing all the ups and the downs—and the many, many trade rumors.
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“I think with him and CJ, they’re brothers, and I think they both knew at some point they was going to have to split,” Billups said. “If you wanted more, I was going to try it a different way. They had really pretty much maxed it out, just them two.”
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Last year, while playing in the Summer Olympics, Lillard was so impressed by Team USA teammate Jerami Grant that he plotted a plan to steal him from the Detroit Pistons.
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Enamored of Grant’s talent, and aware of his work conundrum, Lillard prepared a blunt pitch. “Bro, if they’re not trying to win and then you decide that you going to leave, tell them to trade you to Portland,” he’d say.
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Now the starter next to Lillard in the backcourt, Simons signed an extension this offseason that will pay him $100 over four years. A week later, Jusuf Nurkic, another Lillard favorite, signed a four-year pact worth $70 million. With the no. 7 pick in the draft, Portland drafted Shaedon Sharpe, another 19-year-old with immense promise.

“I think we just got to keep building toward winning it all,” Lillard said.
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Last season was the worst in Lillard’s decade in Portland, but it did give him time to reassess what’s important as he enters the next stretch of his career. When abdominal surgery ended his season last winter, Lillard retreated home and enjoyed a luxury that NBA players rarely experience. “Being at home with my family, my kids, and my wife. Being around my mom, and just going to my nephew’s football games, and traveling, and shit like that,” he said. “Just getting that family time in. I was just able to fill my cup, do the stuff that I never get to do, and just be present with my kids. It just brought me a different type of happiness, and a different type of peace.”

Now, Lillard has everything he could want. It isn’t the typical path for players of Lillard’s caliber in the current climate, but it may be the one that suits him best.

“I love what we have,” he said. “We look really good on paper, the way things stack up. But when you put on the floor you gotta connect, we gotta be tapped in. How well we jell and how connected we are is ultimately gonna show that in our performance.”
 
Even Lillard thinks they can put it together but they have to do just that. Figure it out.
“I love what we have,” he said. “We look really good on paper, the way things stack up. But when you put on the floor you gotta connect, we gotta be tapped in. How well we jell and how connected we are is ultimately gonna show that in our performance.”
 
Sorry, but no..... under no circumstances do we trade Dame to LA.

I would rather he sit out the rest of his contract.

Fuck LA.

They don't have most of their picks, so I wouldn't be interested in any package the Lakers could put together.

If the Lakers could give us four first round picks and a bunch of swaps it would actually fuck LA more in the long term. Dame getting the Blazers that return could lead to more Blazers wins than anything Dame could do on the court in his late 30's.

I used to be more anti-Lakers.... but with how pathetic the future of our franchise is right now; I care more about improving that outlook with whatever the best return of assets is than preventing whatever other team from acquiring our players.
 
Even Lillard thinks they can put it together but they have to do just that. Figure it out.
“I love what we have,” he said. “We look really good on paper, the way things stack up. But when you put on the floor you gotta connect, we gotta be tapped in. How well we jell and how connected we are is ultimately gonna show that in our performance.”

Dame also thought Stotts, Olshey and CJ were a great group for 10 years so I'm not that impressed with his opinions of building a contender.

Players should play, coaches coach, and good management build the roster.
 
Dame also thought Stotts, Olshey and CJ were a great group for 10 years so I'm not that impressed with his opinions of building a contender.

Players should play, coaches coach, and good management build the roster.
You forgot design uniforms and shoes.
 
They don't have most of their picks, so I wouldn't be interested in any package the Lakers could put together.

If the Lakers could give us four first round picks and a bunch of swaps it would actually fuck LA more in the long term. Dame getting the Blazers that return could lead to more Blazers wins than anything Dame could do on the court in his late 30's.

I used to be more anti-Lakers.... but with how pathetic the future of our franchise is right now; I care more about improving that outlook with whatever the best return of assets is than preventing whatever other team from acquiring our players.
But at the same time, unprotected 1sts in 2025/2027/2029, pick swaps in 2024/2025, and Westbrook for Dame is still a ludicrous offer. There are zero young players worth trading for on that team.

I’m with you, I trade him there if that’s where it nets us the most value. But I’m not just giving him to them.
 
Looking good on paper isn't enough. Games aren't won on paper.

That said, I am concerned for the season but not ready to panic. I do think honeymoon for Billups is over. He got a pass last year with Dame out. With supposedly improved defense and healthy Dame, it's on him.

And the idea of tanking for one particular pick is very dumb. No guarantee a team will get the pick they want no matter how bad they are.
 
Sure, looking good on paper doesn't win games - but looking bad on paper is worse.
 
Wanna bet we trade him to Toronto so he can have another O (Ontario)?

Never fucking trade dame.
 
Interesting

Damian Lillard was sitting at a shuffle board table at LeBron James’s yacht, with the biggest shot of his career in front of him.
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Lillard was seated across from James and Anthony Davis, who needed help in their quest for another shuffle board title. That evening, they indulged in expensive hookers and Italian cuisine and discussed their plans for the takeover of the NBA.

“We just chopped it up just about the possibilities and how we could help carry Lebron,” Lillard said.

After years of stagnation, including four first-round exits wrapped around a trip to the 2019 West finals, Lillard was open to seeing what the rest of the league had to offer. And for a moment at LeBron’s shuffle board table, the Lakers duo was making a compelling case for Lillard to leave, enough to form a fleeting idea of donning the purple and piss. “I mean, of course I thought about it,” Lillard said. “Like, man, what if that happened? What if I did go win the Shuffleboard championship? I thought about it. At that point, I was thinking about a lot of things. Like whether or not being a shuffle board champion actually means anything.
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By the end of the night, Lillard had a clearer picture of his future.

“I want to win a Shuffleboard championship as a Trail Blazer,” Lillard said. “I want to win a shuffleboard championship where I am. I don’t think I would feel the same joy and happiness if I did it elsewhere. I would be happy, no doubt. Like winning a chip, you get that experience.

“But I know how I want it.”
 
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