Lillard in the ASG?

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chris palmer ‏@ESPNChrisPalmer

Damian Lillard is gonna mess around and make the All-Star game if he's not careful.

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West starters: Kobe, CP3. Bench: Westbrook, Harden, Parker. Lillard on the bubble.
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That would be amazing.
 
The difference between Lillard and all those other guys?

Our team isn't very good.
 
santeesioux said:
That would be amazing.
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In the last twenty seasons, only five rookies have made the All-Star game: Shaq, Hill, Duncan, Ming, and Griffin. The only two that weren't starters were Duncan and Griffin.

The odds are pretty stacked against a rookie making the squad.
 
NOVoodoo said:
In the last twenty seasons, only five rookies have made the All-Star game: Shaq, Hill, Duncan, Ming, and Griffin. The only two that weren't voted in were Duncan and Griffin.

The odds are pretty stacked against a rookie making the squad.
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It's obviously not going to happen, but the fact that anybody is even talking about it is great for DLill.
 
The only way he makes the team is if he continues to have an insanely awesome rookie year (if he ups his PPG to over 20, and his assists creep up to 8 and he shoots solid #'s) or if there are injuries.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The difference between Lillard and all those other guys?

Our team isn't very good.
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2 game win streak. clap clap. Clap clap clap.

Love and Aldridge made the All Star game with bad teams. Lillard can do it!
 
Have they released an early vote count yet?

I'm interested to see where Jeremy Lin falls. I hear a lot of people assuming he'll get Ming-esque support, but I don't understand that one, because he's an American with Taiwanese ancestry. That's a far cry from being a Chinese immigrant. It should be interesting to see what kind of pull he has on the Chinese vote.
 
RR7 said:
neither is Houston and LA
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Kobe would be voted in by the fans, so that doesn't really apply. I'm talking coaches, so in this case only Houston would counter my argument, and the only reason Harden would make it is because he has been playing out of his mind.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Kobe would be voted in by the fans, so that doesn't really apply. I'm talking coaches, so in this case only Houston would counter my argument, and the only reason Harden would make it is because he has been playing out of his mind.
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On that point, you also have to take into consideration that the coach's reserves don't depend on position. Even if Lillard is on the 'guard' bubble, there's no guarantee that the bench won't be loaded in the front court.
 
KingSpeed said:
I don't see why not.
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because LMA will probably go on a hot streak and get selected and PDX would not get 2 players

because there are so many deserving C/F the west will only take 5 guards

because he's a rookie
 
Palmer also overlooks Steph Curry. If the Warriors can maintain this level of play, wouldn't he be the most likely candidate from their squad?
 
KingSpeed said:
2 game win streak. clap clap. Clap clap clap.

Love and Aldridge made the All Star game with bad teams. Lillard can do it!
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Love made the ASG on a bad team because of almost unprecedented stats and buzz as the best PF in the league

we were around .500 when LMA was voted in

if we have a losing record it will almost certainly kill any remote chance lillard had. his only realistic shot is as an injury replacement
 
NOVoodoo said:
Palmer also overlooks Steph Curry. If the Warriors can maintain this level of play, wouldn't he be the most likely candidate from their squad?
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18/6 probably wouldn't get him past Tony Parker, even if warriors stay above .500
 
Tough for him to get on THIS season....... I just think it's a joke he isn't even on the god damn ballot!
 
So our fan-voted starters are likely -

G - Paul
G - Bryant
F - Durant
F - Griffin
F/C - Howard

After that, you've got seven spots to assign to the following players -

Tim Duncan
Zach Randolph
James Harden
Tony Parker
Marc Gasol
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Love
Steph Curry
LaMarcus Aldridge
Al Jefferson
David Lee
Jamal Crawford
Rudy Gay

...and, of course, Damian Lillard.

Is there anyone else that I left off that list? It seems like those 14 guys are the most likely to be in the running for the 7 spots.
 
NOVoodoo said:
After that, you've got seven spots to assign to the following players -

Tim Duncan
Zach Randolph
James Harden
Tony Parker
Marc Gasol
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Love
Steph Curry
LaMarcus Aldridge
Al Jefferson
David Lee
Jamal Crawford
Rudy Gay

...and, of course, Damian Lillard.
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I bolded the only guys that I saw as locks. I'd also rate Dragic ahead of Lillard at this point... he'll really have to turn it on to make it

STOMP
 
Duncan is averaging 19/10/3/2 on 54% FG in 31 mins. How the hell is he doing this after regressing the last few years? Thought he was done with the all star team, but his resurgence is mindboggling.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Duncan is averaging 19/10/3/2 on 54% FG in 31 mins. How the hell is he doing this after regressing the last few years? Thought he was done with the all star team, but his resurgence is mindboggling.
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To be fair he was pretty good last year too. His bouts with plantar fasciitis have subsided and he's generally healthy. Best PF ever so I'm not surprised he's dominant yet again

STOMP
 
NOVoodoo said:
So our fan-voted starters are likely -

G - Paul
G - Bryant
F - Durant
F - Griffin
F/C - Howard

After that, you've got seven spots to assign to the following players -

Tim Duncan
Zach Randolph
James Harden
Tony Parker
Marc Gasol
Russell Westbrook
Kevin Love
Steph Curry
LaMarcus Aldridge
Al Jefferson
David Lee
Jamal Crawford
Rudy Gay

...and, of course, Damian Lillard.

Is there anyone else that I left off that list?
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if the thunder happen to have the leagues best record around voting time ibaka will get some consideration. mayo will also if mavs are above .500

crawford has zero chance
 
STOMP said:
I bolded the only guys that I saw as locks. I'd also rate Dragic ahead of Lillard at this point... he'll really have to turn it on to make it

STOMP
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I'd agree with those three. You can probably lock in at least one "Grizzly" as well, even though it's anybody's guess who gets selected off of that squad at this point.

Out of those three, Gasol has been the most important to the team's success, although he's been putting up the numbers that usually go unappreciated in the All-Star selection process. Zach Randolph, on the other hand, is second in the NBA in rebounding and has been a double-double machine. Then you have Rudy Gay, who might not even be a top three player on his own team and whose stats are empty, but the All-Star nods tend to go to players who do things like lead their team in scoring and make highlight plays.

Whether it's Gasol, Randolph, Gay, or even two of the three, you can guarantee they'll be represented, which brings the lock count to at least four, therefore cutting the "open" spaces to three.

There's also the possibility of Lin's influence on the Chinese vote, which would cut the "open" spaces down to just two spots.

yuyuza1 said:
Duncan is averaging 19/10/3/2 on 54% FG in 31 mins. How the hell is he doing this after regressing the last few years? Thought he was done with the all star team, but his resurgence is mindboggling.
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Man, the Spurs really are the league's enigma, but don't you love it? Maybe it's just because I'm in my mid-20's and grew up watching Tim Duncan, but it's hard for me not to root for a 15-year veteran putting up numbers like that, while leading his team to a 14-3 record in games he plays in.

To be fair he was pretty good last year too. His bouts with plantar fasciitis have subsided and he's generally healthy. Best PF ever so I'm not surprised he's dominant yet again

STOMP
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That's another reason I've got to respect Duncan. I don't know if any of ya'll have had plantar fasciitis, but I got it in college, and it felt like I broke my heel. I was convinced I had a broken foot until I saw the doc, who said it was plantar faciitis from overuse, having played in the post on the circuit my whole life. I remember it being very painful and being on crutches for at least a month. My foot's completely fine now, but I haven't played competitively in a few years... I can only imagine how tough it was for Duncan to have to slowly heal and play through the lingering pain. Having that injury at a young age just sort of put the typical "nagging/old-age" NBA injuries into perspective for me.
 
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The only way Lillard makes it into the AS game is if were above .500 and he is avging over 20 and over 7 by the time the coaches vote. Neither of which I think are going to happen.
 
Rhal said:
The only way Lillard makes it into the AS game is if were above .500 and he is avging over 20 and over 7 by the time the coaches vote. Neither of which I think are going to happen.
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I think guards will have to be injured for him to get in
 
His FG% took a nosedive last week, and he's down to <43% now on the season. That has to go up for him to be in consideration.
 
I am not sure I want him to make it. I don't want him to think he has arrived quite yet. He needs to keep working hard to get better. That chip on his shoulder needs to be there for another couple of years.

This year is a learning experience for him as it is his first time seeing some of these players.
He is making lots of mistakes, but it is nice that he is getting the opportunity to play through the mistakes. All those minutes have a plus side.
 
I won't be disappointed when he is not chosen. He hasn't earned it. He'll play in the rookie game.
 
Boise Blazer said:
I would love to see it but I guess it depends on what you are using to determine the best guards in the league.

Is it Ortg and Dtg?

http://bkref.com/tiny/0nHSw
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higher is better for ORtg. you've got it <=110 cutting out Chris Paul, Dragic, Conley and probably others.



Or a combo of all them?

http://bkref.com/tiny/K37ud
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again you've got ORtg <=

also your >= 19 PPG would cut out chris paul anyway, who happens to lead all PG in both ORtg & PER. PGs who create so much for their teammates shouldn't be judged on scoring.
 
Lillard will be a shoe in for the rookie game. If he continues to play like this next season; he will make the allstar team.
 
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