LOL @ Governor Moonbeam

[Denny Crane]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/cal...n-egypt-to-make-his-case-for-budget-vote.html

State of the State: Brown cites unrest in Egypt to make his case for budget vote

Citing the pro-democracy unrest in Egypt and Tunisia, Gov. Jerry Brown called it “unconscionable” that GOP legislators are vowing to block his attempt to ask voters to extend tax hikes to balance the budget.

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm OK with asking the voters, but geez, the parallels between the situations in Egypt and California aren't similar in the least.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

More tax increases. I think at some point in time people are going to have enough of this. And I, too, fail to see the issue in Egypt having anything to do with tax hikes in California. Politicians can really stretch things sometimes.

 

[julius]

More tax increases. I think at some point in time people are going to have enough of this. And I, too, fail to see the issue in Egypt having anything to do with tax hikes in California. Politicians can really stretch things sometimes.

sometimes? Sometimes would imply there are times when they don't.

 

[jlprk]

I thought he is also cutting state employees' pay, a lot. In other words, the state's in an emergency and he's doing both--greatly decreasing spending, and increasing revenues. He can't take his time and ignore the revenue side.

Or am I wrong and he's not doing the "big spending cuts" side of it.

 

[maxiep]

I thought he is also cutting state employees' pay, a lot. In other words, the state's in an emergency and he's doing both--greatly decreasing spending, and increasing revenues. He can't take his time and ignore the revenue side.

Or am I wrong and he's not doing the "big spending cuts" side of it.

Raising tax rates isn't synonymous with raising revenue.

 

[jlprk]

Consider the alternative.

To lose to Jerry Brown, Meg Whitman spent over a sixth of a billion dollars of her own money. That's 5 times what he spent, and his came from contributors, since he isn't rich. Article dated today:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/02/01/107827/meg-whitmans-campaign-spending.html

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

No one is going to vote for higher taxes. The state just wastes it anyways on corrupt politicians from Fabian Nunez to the Bell City council (and others who haven't been caught), high state worker salaries and a pension system that will guarantee the need for the state to declare bankruptcy in the future.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-brown-environment-20110131,0,7559768.story?page=2

Add his crazy environmental restrictions which will skyrocket the prices of everything, this state is screwed.

California has moved forward with the nation's most sweeping regulation of planet-heating gases. It set standards to cut tailpipe emissions from automobiles through 2016 models, rules later adopted by the Obama administration. It is forcing refiners to cut the carbon content of transportation fuels. And it has designed a cap-and-trade program for industrial plants.

Environmentalists want the Brown administration to speed up the timetable for industrial permits to be auctioned under the trading program rather than being given away for free as Schwarzenegger preferred.

Business groups want to delay the cap and trade program, which takes effect in 2012.

The most controversial issue this year is likely to be the new curbs on greenhouse gas emissions from automobiles for the 2017 to 2025 model years. California agreed to delay rule-making until September, when the Obama administration plans to release its own proposed standards. But the state could end up moving forward with stricter curbs if federal proposals are too weak, given California's goal to cut its overall carbon footprint 80% by midcentury.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I think that prop 37 (or whatever it was) that screwed up property taxes is a leading culprit. That and the money spent on illegals.

 

[jlprk]

I think it's Bush (or whoever it was) who screwed up the tax base. That and the money spent on the rich.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I blame the government of the state of California. The system is so convoluted, so much red tape, and so much inefficiency. They pay themselves first, the state second.

 

[maxiep]

California is double fucked in the sense that there's no way Congress will bail them out. I think that was the plan before the 2010 elections, but with this House? Not a chance.

Illinois will go first, then California. There's going to be a war between taxpayers and public unions.

 

[jlprk]

The state went to hell when they privatized everything. Like workmens comp, or industrial insurance, or whatever you want to call it. And liquor stores. Privatization drives up prices. They have to add something for the profit margin.

In Washington State, liquor stores are staffed by minimum wage former alcoholics, not by money-grubbing, cigar-smoking convenience store owners from Bangalore. The staff can supplement their pay from the bottles that reach their expiration dates.

Notice that everything was fine when the country was all communist and unionized? The Mafia kept us on track. Then came this temporary Republican heyday. Dirty bookstores are gone, no dirty mags in grocery stores, the country's gone to the dogs. I miss the Mafia.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

You can buy liquor at the grocery store in california.way cheaper. Costco too.

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[BLAZER PROPHET]

I think it's Bush (or whoever it was) who screwed up the tax base. That and the money spent on the rich.

Bless you for blaming it all on Bush.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Yeah, Bush's state he ran went to shit!

 

[jlprk]

You notice that Nixon and Reagan were from California? You get what I'm saying?

Bush, same-o same-o. Alright then.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

You notice that Nixon and Reagan were from California? You get what I'm saying?

Bush, same-o same-o. Alright then.

Perfect logic. It's all Bush's fault.

 

[bodyman5001]

You can buy liquor at the grocery store in california.way cheaper. Costco too.

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Costco sells vodka they have made in what I have read to be the same place as Grey Goose and it is frikking awesome. Kirlkland doesn't sound classy but the stuff is great.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Grey Goose is crapola.

 

[bodyman5001]

Grey Goose is crapola.

Don't know if that is true, but it is expensive. It isn't identical apparently so take that for what it is worth.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I heard the same thing though. They have the big Makers too...which is awesome.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Don't know if that is true, but it is expensive. It isn't identical apparently so take that for what it is worth.

I think the Goose magnum is $42 or so. $30 for Kirkland. I prefer the Ketel One.

 

[huevonkiller]

Grey goose is too expensive.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Consumer/story?id=3201973&page=1