Lonely loser who can't get laid snaps and goes on Santa Barbara shooting spree.

[RR7]

There's a big difference between a support system and buying him nordstrom gift cards every time he's depressed. The guy certainly had entitlement issues and that just doesn't appear out of thin air.

Ok so you cut out gift cards and then someone like you will say Yeah gift cards are the problem, come on, it's Aspergers. Same way people will mock video games and music being brought up.

 

[Eastoff]

I've been in a situation in which the police were called to assess a threat on someone, through the interview they noted that he was crazy, yet did not do anything and he snapped. Most of the time, unless they threaten directly they are going to do something violent, they won't (and can't) do anything. The only thing they can do is an involuntary psychiatric hold and that requires proof they'll harm themselves or others.

I think there should be some reforms to psychiatric hospitals allowing for more use, and more funding.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I think there should be some reforms to psychiatric hospitals allowing for more use, and more funding.

Isn't that basically locking them up? Lowing the bar for involuntary holds and increasing the length of stay?
I think a lot of the problem is the glamorization of various autism spectrum disorders, personally. Its one of the new celebrity causes.

 

[Eastoff]

Isn't that basically locking them up? Lowing the bar for involuntary holds and increasing the length of stay?
I think a lot of the problem is the glamorization of various autism spectrum disorders, personally. Its one of the new celebrity causes.

Right now, the length of stay is on the order of a week. I'm talking about maybe 6 months.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I've been thinking a lot about the UCSB thing. Because yeah, nerd guy.

I think it comes back to a disconnect that's common to a lot of guys: thinking you're the star in everyone's movie, not just your own. Not seeing that everyone is their own protagonist, with their own narrative to move through. The entitlement comes from this lack of consideration. A poorly developed sense of empathy, not enough training in thinking about what could be going on in another person's brain? Who knows what causes it.

Arthur Chu has a great article about something like it that made me think: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...er-castle-misogyny-entitlement-and-nerds.html His whole thing was about the narrative that basically plays like background radiation in media.

So yeah: You're not the protagonist in anyone's movie but your own, and in most cases, you're a very minor character, one that might not even have a last name in the credits.

Thinking you have the right to work your way into another person's narrative, to emerge from extra to supporting character to protagonist's love interest just by ticking off some trope boxes? That's an illusion of which everyone needs to disabuse themselves.

Be a compelling character if you're going to emerge as a fan favorite. A for-real compelling character, not some hollow marketing scheme that some focus group thinks will tick off the requisite boxes. Trope plot boxes don't cut it. And if the protagonist of someone else's story thinks that they don't want to make some extra or minor character a more major character? That's just tough.

It's not your movie.

It's like how The Friend Zone is just a self-serving way of not admitting that most people don't want to sleep with you. Like, out of 7 billion people, over 6.999999989 billion of them don't. But only someone without the ability to put themselves in another person's brain would think that's a unique problem, or one that needs solving, or one that's specifically someone else's fault (rather than just reality), needs to exercise their empathy muscle.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Right now, the length of stay is on the order of a week. I'm talking about maybe 6 months.

5150 is 72 hours. 5250 is a week. 6 months would be so expensive, and probably inhumane.

 

[PapaG]

I think there should be some reforms to psychiatric hospitals allowing for more use, and more funding.

So, who decided if a person needs to be held indefinitely, and who is just having a bad day?

 

[PapaG]

5150 is 72 hours. 5250 is a week. 6 months would be so expensive, and probably inhumane.

I'm wondering what kind of person thinks that locking up a person accused of no crime for 6 months is a good idea. A short-sighted one, at best.

 

[MARIS61]

I'm wondering what kind of person thinks that locking up a person accused of no crime for 6 months is a good idea. A short-sighted one, at best.

The US Government?

 

[blue32]

Well.... IMO, considering this guy's violent streaks were known by his parents/counselors/therapist that perhaps they should have been able to put a 'red-flag' on his background information (wherever that may be) so that the guy couldn't have legally purchased guns. Of course he could have got them through other unscrupulous means, but that may have helped deter.

And I do believe there needs to be more mental health facilities/hospitals in the states, and that if during therapy violent shit like this bubbles up, people should then be required to pass evaluations at hospitals that focus on special mental issues like this. (Specially if they are around massive groups of people at a time (schools in particular)

Every day, my Aunt who is a LEO, deals with mental health cases. The 'crazy' behavior is more prevalent than one may think. Something needs to be done to try and curtail this type of destructive behavior than just hoping they integrate into society because they're seeing a shrink, etc.

I maybe a little harsh, but this stuff is a huge problem and getting worse.

 

[blue32]

I'm wondering what kind of person thinks that locking up a person accused of no crime for 6 months is a good idea. A short-sighted one, at best.

Well god forbid any of your children or loved ones are harmed by a mental health patient. Is it right to do this to 'normal' people no. But people that exhibit repeat violent mental health episodes should definitely be locked up for a time for evaluation...

 

[Eastoff]

So, who decided if a person needs to be held indefinitely, and who is just having a bad day?

I'm wondering what kind of person thinks that locking up a person accused of no crime for 6 months is a good idea. A short-sighted one, at best.

Shit on me once, shit on me twice to another user. Where's your solution?

 

[Eastoff]

It doesn't seem that way. In many of these shootings, as has been mentioned on this forum, there have been either autism spectrum disorders or Aspergers (which are now one and the same in the DSM-IV).

I believe that in America, there is a culture in which parents are overprotective, especially when it comes to autism and Aspergers. There are movements to celebrate the genius of high functioning Aspergers, yet, I don't think people are looking into the negative, violent aspects of it. A lot of this is due to parent's denial that there is something off about their kids. The problems are ignored and these psychotic attitudes are fostered ending in these mass shootings. Granted, they are for the most part outliers, but when most of the shooters exhibit these characteristics, there needs to be awareness to spot more of the warning signs and to do something about it.

http://myfox8.com/2014/05/28/10th-grader-admits-to-murdering-parents-because-they-took-away-ipod/ Definitely too soft on their kid. /s