OT Man, What's Up With Colorado?!

[Phatguysrule]

Gun control laws are of little value unless they're universal. If you can't buy a gun in Chicago, just go to Indiana.

Even universal gun control laws don't work. Australia has mass killings as often as they ever have, even after their strict gun control in the 90s. People just use arson and shotguns more often than they used to.

But last time I checked, Australia had more mass killing incidents resulting in more deaths the 25 years after Port Arthur and the resulting gun restrictions than there were the 25 years before.

And now you can just 3d print guns.... Gun control will never work. We need to address the root cause, which is too many desperate poor people having to compete with rich people.

It all comes back to the Gini Coefficient...

 

[ABM]

It all comes back to the Gini Coefficient...

Socialism now, Socialism forever!

 

[Phatguysrule]

Socialism now, Socialism forever!

 

[ABM]

Caste the first stone.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Caste the first stone.

Socialism has nothing to do with anything I've said.

 

[Lanny]

Even universal gun control laws don't work. Australia has mass killings as often as they ever have, even after their strict gun control in the 90s. People just use arson and shotguns more often than they used to.

But last time I checked, Australia had more mass killing incidents resulting in more deaths the 25 years after Port Arthur and the resulting gun restrictions than there were the 25 years before.

And now you can just 3d print guns.... Gun control will never work. We need to address the root cause, which is too many desperate poor people having to compete with rich people.

It all comes back to the Gini Coefficient...

In 2019 there were 416 killings by guns in Australia. Seems their universal law works after all. The net increase over 2018 was 39 people. We have that many in a single day.
In 2018 we had 38,390 deaths by guns in the United States.
Do you see the picture now?

 

[ABM]

Even universal gun control laws don't work. Australia has mass killings as often as they ever have, even after their strict gun control in the 90s. People just use arson and shotguns more often than they used to.

But last time I checked, Australia had more mass killing incidents resulting in more deaths the 25 years after Port Arthur and the resulting gun restrictions than there were the 25 years before.

And now you can just 3d print guns.... Gun control will never work. We need to address the root cause, which is too many desperate poor people having to compete with rich people.

It all comes back to the Gini Coefficient...

Which is one of the reasons why I fully support efforts such as the Woodson Center. It's one of many like it in terms of working towards increased opportunities for the so-called deperate...as opposed to simply enabling them thru Socialistic means and methods.

https://woodsoncenter.org/

The "Socialism now, Socialism forever!" remark was a sarcastic comparison to George Wallace's cry for segregation.

 

[Orion Bailey]

In 2019 there were 416 killings by guns in Australia. Seems their universal law works after all. The net increase over 2018 was 39 people. We have that many in a single day.
In 2018 we had 38,390 deaths by guns in the United States.
Do you see the picture now?

does this take into account how many guns there are in aussie? Or the population scale?

whats the population of australia vs the us?

how many registered guns in the us already?

how many assumed illegal guns are already in this country.

i find it hard to compare us to others without these ratios being factored in. (Not saying you didnt, im asking)


In this country, i think gun laws would only remove guns from lawful people and the only ones left with guns would be criminals. Thats how i see it playing out anyhow.

 

[Phatguysrule]

In 2019 there were 416 killings by guns in Australia. Seems their universal law works after all. The net increase over 2018 was 39 people. We have that many in a single day.
In 2018 we had 38,390 deaths by guns in the United States.
Do you see the picture now?

Does it matter if people are killed by gun or knife or fire or poison? How about bludgeoning? Australia's violent crime and murder rates didn't fall any more than the US since their increased gun control, even while the US doubled the number of guns and let the Brady Bill "Assault Weapons Ban" expire... Us homicide rates have fallen more than UK, even though the UK also passed gun control mid 90s.

Sources
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate_by_decade
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-1
http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=crim_off_cat&lang=en
http://www.ausstats.abs.gov.au/auss...8BCDCF9DCA2578B700119690/$File/45100_2010.pdf

 

[Phatguysrule]

Which is one of the reasons why I fully support efforts such as the Woodson Center. It's one of many like it in terms of working towards increased opportunities for the so-called deperate...as opposed to simply enabling them thru Socialistic means and methods.

https://woodsoncenter.org/

The "Socialism now, Socialism forever!" remark was a sarcastic comparison to George Wallace's cry for segregation.

That looks great!

 

[ABM]

That looks great!

It is.

 

[Lanny]

does this take into account how many guns there are in aussie? Or the population scale?

whats the population of australia vs the us?

how many registered guns in the us already?

how many assumed illegal guns are already in this country.

i find it hard to compare us to others without these ratios being factored in. (Not saying you didnt, im asking)


In this country, i think gun laws would only remove guns from lawful people and the only ones left with guns would be criminals. Thats how i see it playing out anyhow.

Your first statement is my whole basis.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Your first statement is my whole basis.

Sorry, how many guns are in aussie vs how many are in the states?

meaning, its likely much easier to gain gun control if there are only 45k guns in a 50 mill population, vs 30 million guns in a 370 million population.

there is a scale that should be considered when equating the ease of gun control.

 

[Lanny]

Sorry, how many guns are in aussie vs how many are in the states?

meaning, its likely much easier to gain gun control if there are only 45k guns in a 50 mill population, vs 30 million guns in a 370 million population.

there is a scale that should be considered when equating the ease of gun control.

But that was my point. The reason Australia has so few gun deaths is because their gun control laws permit so few guns. Wasn't that obvious?