McCain is a slimy bastard

[Minstrel]

Obama and the Weather Underground
Nico and the Velvet Underground
and special guest
The Jackson 5

Excellent. Love the Jackson 5 addition. I assume that's a reference to Keating Five? Or am I missing the joke?

 

[barfo]

Excellent. Love the Jackson 5 addition. I assume that's a reference to Keating Five? Or am I missing the joke?

It's like a Jackson Pollock painting - it means whatever you think it means.

barfo

 

[ABM]

It's like a Jackson Pollock painting - it means whatever you think it means.

barfo

It's amazing to me that he (er, his estate) became disgustingly wealthy doing what a 5-year-old could do equally as well.

What a country.

 

[maxiep]

I don't know whether your glowing praise of Chicago is accurate, but I doubt they honour human garbage with civic awards.

It's clear that you don't know Chicago.

Did they publish an article in support of the attacks? If so, it might mean that.

It was a specific writer. If the WSJ Editorial Board wrote that opinion piece, it would be a different matter. Do you believe the NYT or the WP endorses everything written in their opinion pages by individual columnists?

 

[maxiep]

As a sidenote, I'm always struck by how good a band name "Weather Underground" would be. But, in thinking about it, that may be because of the Velvet Underground.

Perhaps if Weather Report and the Velvet Underground toured together, that could be their name. That or they'd be Velvet Report.

P.S. RIP, Jaco.

 

[maxiep]

It's amazing to me that he (er, his estate) became disgustingly wealthy doing what a 5-year-old could do equally as well.

What a country.

In the lower level of the East Building at the National Gallery (where modern art is kept), there is a large canvas (perhaps 6' X 10') painted simply off white. Since I don't understand much of modern art, I toured the Gallery with my friend Leah, who used to be an art critic (she's now an editor). She explained to me the impact of certain artists and got me to focus less on technical expertise and more on technique and expression. However, when we got to this particular work, she just looked at it, shook her head and said, "this piece is simply a fraud".

 

[Minstrel]

It's clear that you don't know Chicago.

Perhaps. Or perhaps you are far too extreme in your dislikes.

It was a specific writer. If the WSJ Editorial Board wrote that opinion piece, it would be a different matter. Do you believe the NYT or the WP endorses everything written in their opinion pages by individual columnists?

No, but I think it is hard to dismiss something that the WSJ chooses to publish as "left-wing fluff" or something that the NYT chooses to publish as "right-wing fluff." They do have philosophical worldviews that influence what they publish. I don't think the WSJ would choose to publish a nonsense propaganda piece that is to the benefit of Ayers and Obama.

 

[BrianFromWA]

A great documentary for guys like me (and it seems, Maxie) is "Who the F*** is Jackson Pollack?" It shows the world of art, of art critics, and of normal, everyday people who think things like "a 5-y/o could do that".

Maybe I'm spoiled, and I admit I'm stupid when it comes to things like "Expression" and "Creativity", but I've been to the Louvre (and many of the other Parisian art museums like the Orangerie) multiple times, I've been to the Naples museum multiple times, and try to get to Seattle Art Museum when they have new roadshows (Tiffany's was pretty impressive). I look at paintings from guys like Raphael, David, Caravaggio and the like and can see symbolism, have emotion evoked, and enjoy a little of the "process" of the artist's mind. Pollack seems a little off to me, but I can respect that he was avant-garde in his day.

I don't think much of "new art". I probably just don't get it.

 

[maxiep]

Perhaps. Or perhaps you are far too extreme in your dislikes.

I love Chicago. I have a strong attachment to the City, but its poltics stink. If you're going to support that system, be my guest.

No, but I think it is hard to dismiss something that the WSJ chooses to publish as "left-wing fluff" or something that the NYT chooses to publish as "right-wing fluff." They do have philosophical worldviews that influence what they publish. I don't think the WSJ would choose to publish a nonsense propaganda piece that is to the benefit of Ayers and Obama.

I'm not dismissing it, I simply disagree with it. I bet the editorial boards of those papers disagree with items published all the time.

 

[Minstrel]

I love Chicago. I have a strong attachment to the City, but its poltics stink. If you're going to support that system, be my guest.

Yes, I was referring to your dislike of Chicago politics. I don't think any action that the city of Chicago undertakes is tainted by corruption. Unless you have some evidence to show that Ayers being awarded "Citizen Of The Year" was an example of dirty politics, my default is that it is as much an honour as a civic award handed out by any other city.

I'm not dismissing it, I simply disagree with it. I bet the editorial boards of those papers disagree with items published all the time.

I'm sure they do. But they probably don't think what they publish is nonsense or propaganda. Not that you called it that...I'm simply saying that there is some significance to a fairly right-wing periodical publishing a glowing portrait of the current Bill Ayers.

 

[Денг Гордон]

That retort by Obama was ridiculous. I attended a cocktail party where Robert Byrd was also in the 1990s. He was working the room and came up to the group to which I was speaking. I excused myself because I refused to shake the hand of a former KKK member. Was I born in the early 40s? Not even close. But decisions you make in your past point to the person you are. When you're a guy like Bill Ayres who escaped prison by a technicality and who hasn't renounced his viewpoints, Barack Obama deserves to be taken to task (as does anyone else) who deals with this piece of human garbage.

It doesn't matter that he did these acts when Sen. Obama was eight. It matters that Sen. Obama as an adult knew who he was and what he was and still sought both his counsel and support. That's absolutely shameful.

So Obama works on a charity board. He gets the paper giving a brief description of each person. He reads William Ayers' and sees "Former Weather Underground member" and Obama reads it and says, hmm, we have a former weatherman on the board, interesting. That gives Obama terrorist inclinations. (More likely is that Ayers' description was just that of his humanitarian efforts, so Obama likely thought of this guy as a great member of the community, and was completely unaware at the time of his past.)

 

[BlazerWookee]

Bill Ayers also won Humanitarian Of The Year in Chicago. It's possible that he's not the same person who did the bombings.

Adolph Hitler used to pet his dogs, too.

 

[Denny Crane]

McCain is a slimey OLD bastard, you mean.

He's got one foot in the grave, or so people keep telling me.

 

[BrianFromWA]

People have been saying that about Castro for 20 years.

 

[MARIS61]

Was that a review of how he cheated on his wife again and again after he came home from Vietnam? The line I heard from him was that his wife needed him to act like he's 40 and he acted like he was 25. It's not like he's proud of what he did. In fact, I've heard him say time and time again that the dissolution of his first marriage is entirely his fault.

Pretty lame that he tries to drag all young married men down the gutter pipe with him, as if seaminess is a rite of passage to be expected.

Both my sons, now in their late twenties, have much more respect for women than that.

They take full responsibility for their actions.

Their word is their bond.

McCain is a lying, cowardly weasel, who has always blames others for his despicable, parasitic lifestyle.