McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the team!!

[ODENISGOD]

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? THIS GUY IS A CLOWN.

 

[LameR]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Before that shot, Outlaw was 6-13, 2-3 from downtown. Rudy was 1-4 at that point, 0-1 from downtown. Get over it. It wasn't a bad play.

 

[Tince]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Never heard of those two people.

 

[illmatic99]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Rudy is leading the league in three pt. % in the playoffs.

Ouch.

Good call, Nate. Idiot.

 

[free_lafrentz]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Give me a break. If the ball goes in on Outlaw's shot, Nate is looked at as a genius. It's easy to criticize in hindsight.

 

[Tince]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Rudy is leading the league in three pt. % in the playoffs.

Ouch.

Good call, Nate. Idiot.

Yeah, no kidding Nate. You are the worst coach ever. The Rockets had no clue Rudy was a good three point shooter and were going to leave him wide open, but we all heard you in that timeout say "Whatever we do, don't pass the ball to Rudy."

I love how TNT allowed us to not only hear what Nate was saying during that timeout, but they actually showed up Nate's dry erase board with Rudy on there and his name cleared crossed out. Without that camera work, we couldn't criticize you without looking foolish.

 

[bigbailes]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

it was a horrible play because it really wasn't a play at all. it was inbounded and he shoots it 3 feet behind the line. once again, no offense from our coach and i'd rather have blake or brandon shooting that. and why couldn't he get a play drawn up to get our best shooter the rock? other coaches do but ours backs down and draws up a play for our 4th best option on the court.

 

[craigehlo]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

TO should only be shooting from the corners off of spot up shots. That shot tonight looked bad from the second it left his hands.

Another reason I'm not as enamored with Nate as others on this board.

 

[Tince]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

it was a horrible play because it really wasn't a play at all. it was inbounded and he shoots it 3 feet behind the line. once again, no offense from our coach and i'd rather have blake or brandon shooting that. and why couldn't he get a play drawn up to get our best shooter the rock? other coaches do but ours backs down and draws up a play for our 4th best option on the court.

You know we ended up as the 2nd most efficient offense in the league right? But don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

 

[craigehlo]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

You know we ended up as the 2nd most efficient offense in the league right? But don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

We also had the 2nd worst road record against WC playoff teams. That's a fact that speaks louder than offensive efficiency in my book. You can't expect to advance to the 2nd round with that horrendous road record against winning teams.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

You know we ended up as the 2nd most efficient offense in the league right? But don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

This is a fact that is helped by our insane offensive rebounding. Our offense all year has been the Roy ISO, the pick and pop with LaMarcus, and the Travis ISO when he's a PF. It is very difficult for this to work good in the playoffs.

 

[shamelessblazer]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

The thing that's been driving me crazy this series (and contributing to shitty rebound numbers) is how often we're shooting with no one in position to get a rebound. Granted a lot of the time LMA, Outlaw, or Channing play out there but either they need to follow their miss or we need our SF or SG to slide in for an attempt at an offensive rebound. Houston doesn't run AT ALL, there's no excuse for it.

IF this was the designed play, then why the hell didn't any of our guys break to the hoop to grab an offensive rebound knowing the play was a quick shot for Travis?

 

[free_lafrentz]

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The thing that's been driving me crazy this series (and contributing to shitty rebound numbers) is how often we're shooting with no one in position to get a rebound. Granted a lot of the time LMA, Outlaw, or Channing play out there but either they need to follow their miss or we need our SF or SG to slide in for an attempt at an offensive rebound. Houston doesn't run AT ALL, there's no excuse for it.

IF this was the designed play, then why the hell didn't any of our guys break to the hoop to grab an offensive rebound knowing the play was a quick shot for Travis?

Everyone on here has their own array of excuses. I personally think we just don't matchup well against Houston and that will likely cost us the series.

We've played Houston 7 times now this year and only won 2 contests. I don't think another team has our number like Houston, other than Dallas (to an extent).

 

[KingSpeed]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Over the last two seasons, Outlaw has been our most clutch shooter. He's hit three game winners and two game tyers (remember the 4 point play in Toronto?). It made sense to go to him. He just missed. That's all. It happens.

 

[shamelessblazer]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Please. Call spade a spade, will ya? That was a total fucked up play. If we had 1 or 2 seconds left, then that play is fine. But we had about 10 seconds. You're telling my a fade away 25 footer with two defenders contesting the shot was a good play?

Exactly...and I might be willing to say it's an okay play if we have three guys with their asses placed underneath the basket for an offensive rebound, but of course it's one guy on an island down there.

 

[bigbailes]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

You know we ended up as the 2nd most efficient offense in the league right? But don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

i see with my eyes and they tell me we've gotten alot out of isoing roy and we've gotten alot off of offensive rebounds/put backs. amazing when we go against a good rebounding team like houston, those second chance points disapear and our offense looks like shit. don't let those facts get in the way of your arguments.

 

[The Dream]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

yeah I was relieved when I saw outlaw get the ball....Roy is a rockets killer.....

 

[Tince]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Please. Call spade a spade, will ya? That was a total fucked up play. If we had 1 or 2 seconds left, then that play is fine. But we had about 10 seconds. You're telling my a fade away 25 footer with two defenders contesting the shot was a good play?

How do you know that was the play? How do you know that the Rockets didn't take away the first couple options?

 

[handiman]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

The play wasn't necessarily a bad one, it got an open shot for a somewhat hot shooter. It was a bad shot, though. If it went in, it would have been a lucky shot, not a good shot... Outlaw needs to be set to make a shot like that, not fading away.

 

[Tince]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

This is a fact that is helped by our insane offensive rebounding. Our offense all year has been the Roy ISO, the pick and pop with LaMarcus, and the Travis ISO when he's a PF. It is very difficult for this to work good in the playoffs.

Are you leaving out the other sets we run or are those the only ones you've been able to identify?

And why do you think our offensive rebounding is so good? Because our offense forces other teams big men to help out, leaving the glass wide open for us to get offensive rebounds. That seems like a good thing to me.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Are you leaving out the other sets we run or are those the only ones you've been able to identify?

And why do you think our offensive rebounding is so good? Because our offense forces other teams big men to help out, leaving the glass wide open for us to get offensive rebounds. That seems like a good thing to me.

There are other sets, but those are the three we use the majority of the time.

Well the offensive rebounding is good because Greg is pretty much a force and can get anything he wants off the glass as long as he doesn't have two guys hanging on him. While us certainly being a jump shooting team pulls out big men it also kills us when those same jump shots aren't falling because we have little else to depend on at this point in time.

 

[free_lafrentz]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Please. Call spade a spade, will ya? That was a total fucked up play. If we had 1 or 2 seconds left, then that play is fine. But we had about 10 seconds. You're telling my a fade away 25 footer with two defenders contesting the shot was a good play?

Outlaw shot with roughly 6-7 seconds. And my own personal stance is to not crucify Outlaw or McMillan as the original poster suggested. Whether or not we could have got a better shot I don't know. What I do know is that if Travis makes the shot then he looks like a hero, McMillan looks like a genius and nobody on this forum right now would be bitching and moaning about being down 3-1 and looking for trade partners for draft day.

If I was the coach I would've made sure Roy or Rudy get the ball on that inbounds play, sure; but Nate knows the team better than I do, so I'll roll with his decision. Travis was shooting better tonight, so I don't blame him for taking the shot but, again, if it was my call I would've tried to get the rock into Roy or Rudy.

And we don't know for 100% certainty that Travis was the #1 option. Maybe the other primary options were covered?

Everyone needs to quit acting like a bunch of butthurt, sellout trophy rider fans. But then again, maybe most people on here really are just that and this series is just natures way of weeding out the bandwagoners.

 

[Tince]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

I don't. But I can only assume that if that was the play, then it is a bad one. And I can only assume that it was a designed play simply because Travis caught it out of bound and hurried a shot up, as though it was a designed out of bound play with only a few seconds left.


Again, I don't know. But Travis shot it up so quickly, what chance did Houston had to take away any other options?

So let's say Nate drew up a play. The first three options were Roy, Rudy, and Blake in that order. As the broke they huddle, Nate says to the team, "Take the first good look you get, and if we miss and don't get the offensive rebound, we need to foul." The guys walk out on the court, Travis ends up getting the ball, and he thinks a wide open 25ft three, and he thinks its a good shot, so he takes it. Would you consider that a bad play? Or when you say it's a "bad play" do you really mean poor execution by the players? I could understand an argument for that.

 

[Tince]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Listening to the post game show on the radio and Nat was asked if Travis was the #1 option on that play and Nate's response was, "He was on of our options." If you read in between the lines, Nate is saying that Outlaw was not the #1 option.

 

[Tince]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Both execution and design if that was the case. Any play designed to have a guy come off a screen to take a contest 25 footer with 10 seconds left cannot justifiably be considered a good play. Whether that was the design or not, I don't know, but it sure looked as if it were.

In my scenario, Travis took what he thought was a good shot, when in reality it wasn't. We don't know that Nate liked that shot, yet we are all assuming he did. I don't understand how the design of the play in that scenario could be considered bad at all.

 

[free_lafrentz]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Again with the bullshit. Just answer me this question: were you happy with that shot? It didn't go in, so obviously you're not happy about it I am sure. But did you think that it was a good shot?

Just because a full court shot goes in doesn't make it a bad shot. Just as a missed open layup is not a bad shot. The distinction between a good and a bad shot is in the selection of the shot, not the result.

I thought Outlaw had a clean look and it didn't go in. Not the GREATEST selection, obviously, but clearly not as haphazard as Blake's decision in game 3. I've seen Travis hit harder shots before. Unfortunately all the breaks, fouls, loose balls, long rebounds, etc have gone to Houston so far and consequently we are down 3-1.

I will say that it was refreshing to see Travis show up tonight. At the very least he proved he belonged on the court in the playoffs. Was it the greatest look at the hoop, no, but certainly not as piss poor as some here claim it to be.

 

[Tince]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

Like I said, "Any play designed to have a guy come off a screen to take a contest 25 footer with 10 seconds left cannot justifiably be considered a good play." We don't know if that in fact was the design (it is my opinion that it was, as it looked Travis knew he would take that shot). What we can judge is that it was a bad setup leading up to a bad shot.

What if the play was designed for him to catch it 22ft from the hoop, on balance and shoot it, but he took an extra step (or was forced out) and decided the fade-away was a good shot?

I've never seen a coach draw up a play for a fadeaway, so I can't imagine Nate did tonight.

 

[free_lafrentz]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

You and I just saw that play differently then. To me, a contested fadeaway 25 footer is a piss poor shot. We could have had much better looks than the one Travis had, imo.

And yes, glad Travis showed up.

I have to think that any 3 point shot we try to take in that situation is GOING to be contested, too. Besides Roy, Outlaw is the only player on the floor that can essentially create his own shot by rising over defenders. Rudy would've needed a few picks just to spot up and even then, no guarantee's that he is open. Plus, it sounds like Outlaw wasn't the #1 option drawn up either.

I was sitting next to one of my buddies and I actually told him coming out of the timeout that it wouldn't surprise me if Travis or LaMarcus took the shot just because Rudy and Roy would be locked down defensively.

 

[blue32]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

with 8 seconds left we had plenty of time for a better shot.

 

[Shooter]

Re: McCluess admits to drawing up the play for Doubtlaw AKA the coldest guy on the te

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME? THIS GUY IS A CLOWN.

No, "clowns" make claims without providing links . . .