Memo to KP: Roy needs HELP!

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Nate is wearing him out, and you can't blame him too much. If we want Roy to have a long career than we need a vet scoring presence to take some pressure off of him.
Yes, Rudy is a great, but he is still a rookie.
Marty and Trav are great when on, but still inconsistent.
Bayless could be that relief, but Nate won't play him and I am not fond of how he is being used when he is in.
We have NO backup 4...Channing is the invisible man right now.
We will not sign a free agent unless it is Kobe, but that has about a 5% chance of happening.
We don't get contracts like the RLEC, we need to make something happen.
This is not a knee jerk reaction or a push to get a better payoff seed. We need to take some pressure off of our dynamic duo.
His contract sucks, but I'd love Antwan Jamison.
It is not possible, but Rasheed Wallace would be such a great addition, but our fickle casual fan base would have a hippie uproar.
Anyone else got any ideas?
 
He has LaMarcus. Sadly, that's all he has. And our other guards are pretty incompetent at giving the ball to LA.
 
I still say Nash. I don't care if his legs fall off next Christmas...the year playing with a veteran, stud playmaking PG would do this team wonders.
 
The help is actually pretty available it just needs to be utilized more. Cutters down the middle and backdoor cuts would get us a crazy amount of easy buckets. We hardly ever (if at all) run those plays though and depend on iso plays and contested jumpers. Since Brandon is easily the best at using the iso Nate runs him ragged on the play and we have to depend on it.
 
I think we already passed on 3 players who could have really helped.

JRich just had 21 points tonight in a win over Orlando tonight. We've stood pat while Denver landed Billups and now has passed us by in the division standings. We didn't land Al Harrington who's absolutely been on fire since traded to the Knicks (38 points the other night).

In terms of the names that are still available (according to rumors), I'd like to see Gerald Wallace, Shawn Marion or Raymond Felton on this squad. Not amazing names, but upgrades.
 
I hate to say this, but.....Iguodala?
 
It seems daily I think more about good trade fits...

My circle-of-non-homeristic-hope is starting to get a little smaller: (does not include LBJ, Bosh, etc.) Ranked how much I think they'd help us/ease of trade.

In: Nash
Welcome to the party: Redd, Butler
On the cusp: Conley (if cheap), Kirilenko
Last men out: Wallace, Battier
Out: Kidd
Not with a 10-foot pole: Bibby, Amare

This changes daily as I watch more games.
 
Speaking of Felton, this is the first time I've seen Portland mentioned as a destination for him.

ESPN Weekend Dime

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-081213-14

Sources say Charlotte remains highly confident that it can follow up the Richardson deal by finding a taker for versatile swingman Gerald Wallace, despite the prospect of three seasons at $9.5 million each left on Wallace's contract beyond this season. It's believed that teams interested in trying to pry Raymond Felton away from the Bobcats instead of Wallace -- Portland has been mentioned -- have to be willing to take back mothballed center Nazr Mohammed (owed a combined $13.4 million in 2009-2010 and 2010-11) thanks to Felton's improvement since being moved to shooting guard alongside rookie point guard D.J. Augustin. One source close to the situation said that new Bobcats coach Larry Brown had already been grinding on vets such as Richardson and Wallace, which has apparently fed into Brown's famed penchant for wanting to make changes.
 
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LMA is great and still improving, but if these last 3 games tell us anything its that we do shitty when we have to put all our eggs in the Roy/Aldridge basket. We lack a defensive presence (G Wallace I see you baby!) and someone to be able to score. It may be a moot point if Nate doesn't know how to run an offense.
 
no post season with the current roster. its that simple
 
We don't need help. This is a good, deep team.

We're not going to win the title this year, but that was NEVER going to happen, anyway. We need to just keep going the way we've been going and hope that we can stay healthy and keep improving... we'll do fine this year and better-than-fine into the future.

Ed O.
 
craigehlo said:
Speaking of Felton, this is the first time I've seen Portland mentioned as a destination for him.

ESPN Weekend Dime

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-081213-14

Sources say Charlotte remains highly confident that it can follow up the Richardson deal by finding a taker for versatile swingman Gerald Wallace, despite the prospect of three seasons at $9.5 million each left on Wallace's contract beyond this season. It's believed that teams interested in trying to pry Raymond Felton away from the Bobcats instead of Wallace -- Portland has been mentioned -- have to be willing to take back mothballed center Nazr Mohammed (owed a combined $13.4 million in 2009-2010 and 2010-11) thanks to Felton's improvement since being moved to shooting guard alongside rookie point guard D.J. Augustin. One source close to the situation said that new Bobcats coach Larry Brown had already been grinding on vets such as Richardson and Wallace, which has apparently fed into Brown's famed penchant for wanting to make changes.
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Felton ... I ... Uhhh ... mmmm. I can't say that I've ever been a fan; he's not really a point guard and doesn't play very good defense, but I guess I can see how he could (sort of) work playing alongside of Brandon and our other guards. But, if I had to pick between he and Wallace I'd take Crash every day, all day and twice on Sundays.


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Felton? Really?
 
I think we need a good perimeter defender better than anything- which is why I'm willing to wait to see how Bayless pans out and how Batum/Webster develop.

Next year- two free agents we can look at include Artest and Bibby (to hold the fort while Bayless develops)
 
Ed O said:
We don't need help. This is a good, deep team.

We're not going to win the title this year, but that was NEVER going to happen, anyway. We need to just keep going the way we've been going and hope that we can stay healthy and keep improving... we'll do fine this year and better-than-fine into the future.

Ed O.
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Fuck you and realistic approach to the game!

Vince Carter would help this team immensely.
 
anonymous gambler said:
Next year- two free agents we can look at include Artest and Bibby (to hold the fort while Bayless develops)
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Artest and Iverson are the only two 2009 free agents I don't want to see on this team. I still think Shawn Marion, Gerald Wallace or Corey Maggette are more likely.

BTW Maggette is one of 90 NBA players that becomes eligible to be traded this Monday.
 
Ed O said:
We don't need help. This is a good, deep team.

We're not going to win the title this year, but that was NEVER going to happen, anyway. We need to just keep going the way we've been going and hope that we can stay healthy and keep improving... we'll do fine this year and better-than-fine into the future.
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It's a good, not great, team. We are deep at SG and C with starting quality players. We are deep at PG and SF with bench quality players. We are thin at PF right about now.

So never make a trade unless you expect to win a title? I don't buy that. If you are waiting for TO and Sergio to lead you to promised land, you will be waiting until the end of time.
 
#1_War_Poet_ForLife said:
Why wouldn't you want Artest on a short term deal?
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I doubt he would accept a short-term deal. He, like Iverson, is going into his final big contract of his career. He's going to the team that offers him the most money for the longest length.

It's more his personality than this on-court play that worries me.
 
I'd be disappointed with acquiring Felton as our starting PG. He's not particularly great at anything. Playmaking, no. Defense, no. Scoring, not bad, but not exceptional. Speed, no. I'd much rather keep Blake.

Now if we're talking about as a back up, that sounds cool.
 
Wallace makes too much sense for this team. He's a perfect 3rd option and is a great rebounder. I don't know how his defense is though. Batum is going to need at least three seasons before he's solid and consistent enough to be depended on full time. Portland is too deep right now and doesn't have enough players ready to stand out above the rest right now.

The team needs a better starting team right now, not a huge bench. Starters win in the Playoffs, the bench just helps. The Blazers don't need to be three deep at PG with no one standing out. They don't need to be 3 deep at SF with no one standing out.

Sergio, Bayless, Martell, Outlaw, and Frye coming off the bench is just too much.

If Wallace can be had without giving up Bayless, Batum or Rudy, Portland should make that move.
 
I really want Crash after sleeping on it. Batum is ONLY 19 years old, no where near touching his prime. I still want to give him minutes, but starting right now shouldn't be an option. Wallace is near his prime and he could mentor Nicolas. G Wallace would be a perfect 3rd fiddle on this team. I think he could be had with a combo of RLEC, (Marty/OUtlaw), Frye, Sergio, Blake, 1st rounder. This move would not hinder our future, and still make us better now! Please get it done KP!
 
This team can make the playoffs this year. They wont go past the first round but that is plenty for where we are in the development of this team. That said... Bayless needs to see time. This kid can get to the basket and will D up PG's like Davis much better than Blake will. He can take some of the pressure off of Roy and will get to the line. Letting Bayless rot on the bench shows why if any changes need to happen they may need to be with the coach! Nate needs to let his talent show. Batum needs to not be pulled out any more so Travis can shoot wild shots, Bayless needs time and get the ball into Greg!! The rest will handle itself.
 
The one player that would REALLY help is Caron Butler. He still has a lot left in him and by the time he declines Batum will be more than ready.
 
craigehlo said:
It's a good, not great, team. We are deep at SG and C with starting quality players. We are deep at PG and SF with bench quality players. We are thin at PF right about now.
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I disagree that we're shallow at PF. Frye is a top-15 bench power forward and Outlaw can play there, too.

So never make a trade unless you expect to win a title? I don't buy that. If you are waiting for TO and Sergio to lead you to promised land, you will be waiting until the end of time.
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I didn't say don't make a trade.

I did say don't go out of your way to "get Roy help".

I'd love to get Gerald Wallace because I think that he'd help in both the short and long runs. I am 100% opposed to getting a short-term solution at the cost of long-term assets.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
I'd love to get Gerald Wallace because I think that he'd help in both the short and long runs. I am 100% opposed to getting a short-term solution at the cost of long-term assets.

Ed O.
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That right there is the core of the problem. While I am less optimistic about the current team than you are, I really hope the team doesn't overpay just to add experience.

The one exception would be the RLEC. I consider the free agent market a poor way to improve a team, so I would rather use that contract to "rent" someone like Andre Miller, as opposed to turning it into cap space.
 
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