Merged: TIme to work the Trade Machine! [Possible Chris Paul trades]

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I figured I would start a new thread to evaluate exactly what each team would reasonably give up to land Chris Paul. Here is my guess as to what NO would want

1. Cap relief (taking back Okafor, Posey or Peja)

2. Draft picks/rights to international players

3. Young talent that could bolster NO's roster

4. $3MM in unmarked $20 bills in George Shinn's pocket.

Chris Paul wants to be traded to one of these four teams, but perhaps another team I'm not thinking of could make an equally strong offer. For example, I wonder if OKC could offer Green, Westbrook, some of their cap space and some leftover draft picks?

Anyway, let's try to brainstorm and see what the best reasonable offers for Paul could be. That way, we can evaluate our competition. Time to turn on the ESPN Trade Machine!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
 
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^Wow, that's like a starting five!
 
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Here, have 4 crappy pieces and hand us over your star player.
 
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wow, i dont think i can do that

It's what I think it would take to get Paul...

Obviously, I'd go for a Przybilla, Miller, Rudy, Bayless trade:rolleyes:, but do you think NO even considers it?
 
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For the other teams on Chris Paul's list:

Orlando:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2839nne

That's seriously just about the best they can do, in my opinion. One decent prospect and one ending contract. Plus I guess Orlando could add the rights to Fran Vasquez and a couple picks. Meh.

For Dallas:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2a8gfkb

Doesn't really make sense, since Dallas' best prospect plays the same position as New Orleans' best prospect. Plus it's not a ton of ending contracts, so it doesn't exactly save a lot of money for New Orleans.

New York:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=29xoabq

the Knicks have so many contracts that can't be traded right now, it's impossible to make a deal that includes Okafor's contract, which I'm sure New Orleans would prefer to get rid of. But Gallinari and Wilson Chandler are good prospects.

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I really think we have much more to offer.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2495vfg

Simple.
 
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It's what I think it would take to get Paul...

Obviously, I'd go for a Przybilla, Miller, Rudy, Bayless trade:rolleyes:, but do you think NO even considers it?

with Batum, they will
 
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with Batum, they will

According to reports, they denied that before the draft. What's changed? And don't say "Paul asked for a trade", he really has little leverage. If the Hornets know they are losing him anyways, they're going to take the best package, and I think there are better packages out there.
 
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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=25necsu

The Knicks are a tough get, because they don't have the space to absorb both Paul and Okafor. They can only take Posey along with Paul and they don't have many pieces.

Yes they can because they are under the cap. I think it also lets them trade players they just got, like Randolph or Turiaf.

For example: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=25ous8h

EDIT: Geez, Azubuike had a 19.8 PER? WTF.
 
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According to reports, they denied that before the draft. What's changed?

Paul asking for a trade.

And I'm not sure there are better offers out there, that combine a high upside young player with salary relief. I also think Bayless is an extremely promising prospect and, for New Orleans, they don't need him to be a point guard at all.
 
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Yes they can because they are under the cap. I think it also lets them trade players they just got, like Randolph or Turiaf.

For example: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=25ous8h

EDIT: Geez, Azubuike had a 19.8 PER? WTF.

Ah, my bad. I saw the red circle with the cross through it and thought they weren't eligible to be traded. Thanks for the correction.
 
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Paul asking for a trade.

And I'm not sure there are better offers out there, that combine a high upside young player with salary relief. I also think Bayless is an extremely promising prospect and, for New Orleans, they don't need him to be a point guard at all.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=25ous8h
I definitely think this is a better deal, assuming NYK goes for it.
 
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I think it's only a comparable offer, personally.

Well, I put Batum and Gallinari on the same level, prospect wise. Randolph over Bayless prospect wise. All the other parts are arguable one way or another, and the expirings are just expirings anyways, not pieces they are going to want in the long run. And on top of that, they dump Okafor instead of Posey.

Or NO could go for something like this:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2ft2fh2

Replace Kris Humphries with Favors because Favors can't be traded until sometime in August (Salaries are similar). This offers the Hornets instant cap relief, not expirings, a great prospect, an all-star they can trade for additional pieces (To Portland for example), and another good prospect.

Just throwing ideas out there.
 
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I'd do that in a heartbeat.

Yeah, the more I think about the better it looks

Camby's contract might be somewhat appealing because it's loaded with incentives, so if he gets hurt or otherwise fails to achieve certain benchmarks he becomes 17 million over two years instead of the 24 million he could make.

I think I could get excited about this roster's prospects for success:

Paul/Johnson/Mills
Roy/Matthews/Williams
Matthews/Babbitt or Cunningham
LMA/Cunnignham/Pendergraph
Oden/Okafor/Pendergraph

An end of game lineup with CP3, Roy, Matthews, LMA and Oden gives you 4 guys who can shoot the ball, 2 guys who can handle the rock, a good wing defender and an anchor in the middle.

I'd worry a little bit about relying on rookies like Johnson and Babbitt to be regular contributors right away, but I think their prospects of becoming reliable reserves is pretty good -- especially when Johnson is going to have to play against CP3 in practice every day and Babbitt is going to get matched up against Roy and Matthews.

Who knows, it's all jut armchair GMing right now.
 
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Paul has no leverage...

If they know they are losing him anyways, they'll take the best package. And I'm sure teams are calling in.

No, but typically teams would want to know if Paul would intend to sign or otherwise stay with his destination team long term. If he's not on board with going someplace he runs a high risk of becoming a rental for said team.
 
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No, but typically teams would want to know if Paul would intend to sign or otherwise stay with his destination team long term. If he's not on board with going someplace he runs a high risk of becoming a rental for said team.
Agreed, but they knew that before Paul demanded a trade.

And with New York, given how crazy they are, and that they think they can pry Melo from Denver in FA, I would think they would push hard at Paul.
 

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