Missing the keys to victory?

[Dumpy]

Everyone seems to be missing the significant developments from yesterday's game.</p>

--Fast Break points: Lots of 'em.</p>

--Movement without the ball: No statues, not even Vince.</p>

--Strong defense: Most notably, the rotations were very quick. Players--especially Antoine--stayed between their man and the basket. Who cares about the third quarter; Gordon got hot and hit a few three-pointers. It happens.</p>

--The fourth quarter was not a one-on-five exhibition.</p>

I'm very excited about this.</p>

 

[pegs]

Yeah, and imagine this: there's a likelihood that the team will get BETTER at these things as the season progresses.</p>

 

[adisodes]

I was at the game last night and I agree. This season is looking very, very bright. Going back to the Princeton offense and defense is going to work wonders.</p>

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P.S. Hi, I'm new. I found this board while searching for random Nets info. That was like a month ago and ever since I've been reading some of the discussions and decided to get involved. Hey guys my name's Adrian.</p>

 

[ZAE]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (adisodes)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

I was at the game last night and I agree. This season is looking very, very bright. Going back to the Princeton offense and defense is going to work wonders.</p>

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P.S. Hi, I'm new. I found this board while searching for random Nets info. That was like a month ago and ever since I've been reading some of the discussions and decided to get involved. Hey guys my name's Adrian.</p>

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Welcome to S2 Adrian, hope you stick around for the great season.</p>

 

[adisodes]

Thanks, man. I'll definitely be sticking around. I notice Rod Benson in your pic. I went to the open practice a few weeks ago and I actually met him. I didn't get his autograph cause I didn't have a pen but I got a pic with him. Damn, he's tall. But I mentioned I was a fan of his blog and he seemed to get a kick out of that.</p>

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Everyone seems to be missing the significant developments from yesterday's game.</p>

--Fast Break points: Lots of 'em.</p>

--Movement without the ball: No statues, not even Vince.</p>

--Strong defense: Most notably, the rotations were very quick. Players--especially Antoine--stayed between their man and the basket. Who cares about the third quarter; Gordon got hot and hit a few three-pointers. It happens.</p>

--The fourth quarter was not a one-on-five exhibition.</p>

I'm very excited about this.</p>

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I didn't get to see the fourth quarter, but I too noticed these things right from the start of the game. You can see me in the game thread busting a nut about it. I gotta say we look pretty promising; lets hope this continues.</p>

And welcome to the site Adrian! Send me a PM (click the link at the wayyy top of the page) if you have any questions</p>

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[J.S]

I would have loved to see the game, but was happy to listen to the game, so I can't comment on motion but I was happy to hear we were playing defense.
I really like the use of Kidd/DA/AW together. We have a starting squad, a scoring squad, a defensive squad, all we need is a kicking team.



may I add also



-free throws % was not bad

We were able to get to the line and put KH in the penalty.



-3 wing players had 2 blocks a piece, which is a nice bonus when you're playing solid defense.



I hope I can get to see the next game, (I'm in Canada) no Sopcast for Mac

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

Dumpy, we were pretty good at the line.</p>

 

[soul driver]

welcome to the forums, Adrian.

 

[Kidd Karma]

I didn't see the game, what happened in the 3rd, did we go away from any of the Princeton? Was it just Chicago fired up and playing as if they're lives depended on it?</p>

We've had the issue of a 3rd quarter problem all of last year, seems we rest on our laurels and allow the opponent to get back in it.</p>

 

[FOMW]

I agree with just about all your observations, Dumpy.</p>

I liked the look of the half court offense last night in that it did incorporate a lot more ball and player movement than it did at most times last year. But it still doesn't look nearly as impressive as, say, the Kings offense of 4-5 seasons ago from a team perspective. That team consistently got players on back doors for layups and could just as easily result in a wide open three from Peja or BJ or Bibby.</p>

RJ and Vince were still doing a fair amount of one-on-one stuff before taking a shot last night. Hopefully we'll start seeing more and more back doors as part of the execution as the season progresses. I do like the curls RJ and Vince are running in the lane. And the play where VC and Collins screen for Krstic at the top of the key, which appears to have Vince going in for the lob dunk as an option, is looking like it could be killer -- one way or the other -- this year.</p>

 

[MFNetsFan]

2 Other topics I think need some light shed on them:</p>

1) VC + RJ on the same side of the floor - a few times even setting screens for one another.</p>

I don't remember seeing that much last year - it was always Kidd + VC / RJ or Mikki / Nenad + VC / RJ.</p>

It caused havoc with the Bulls having to decide to switch, double the ball, or lay off the ball handler and slide through - giving the ball handler a step to the rim.</p>

In those situations, the similar skill sets of VC + RJ force the defenders to pick which of the 2 they will stop... or to bring a 3rd defender over.</p>

Contrary to popular belief, having them on the same side of the floor didn't crowd things, it added possibilities and puts a lot of pressure on the defenders to rotate properly - something even good defensive teams will struggle to do consistently.</p>

More than Wright having a good game, I think he mostly benefited from the system changes; he was wide open w/ no excuse to not shoot / take it to the rim.</p>

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2) One thing the Bulls didn't do much was full court pressure, during the preseason, that really disrupted the Nets (exception being the knicks games, where it resulted in lots of dunks / open 3's for the nets). Flipside, the Nets went fullcourt D a few times and came up with extra possessions and easy hoops.</p>

 

[pegs]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MFNetsFan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

2 Other topics I think need some light shed on them:</p>

1) VC + RJ on the same side of the floor - a few times even setting screens for one another.</p>

I don't remember seeing that much last year - it was always Kidd + VC / RJ or Mikki / Nenad + VC / RJ.</p>

It caused havoc with the Bulls having to decide to switch, double the ball, or lay off the ball handler and slide through - giving the ball handler a step to the rim.</p>

In those situations, the similar skill sets of VC + RJ force the defenders to pick which of the 2 they will stop... or to bring a 3rd defender over.</p>

Contrary to popular belief, having them on the same side of the floor didn't crowd things, it added possibilities and puts a lot of pressure on the defenders to rotate properly - something even good defensive teams will struggle to do consistently.</p>

More than Wright having a good game, I think he mostly benefited from the system changes; he was wide open w/ no excuse to not shoot / take it to the rim.</p>

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2) One thing the Bulls didn't do much was full court pressure, during the preseason, that really disrupted the Nets (exception being the knicks games, where it resulted in lots of dunks / open 3's for the nets). Flipside, the Nets went fullcourt D a few times and came up with extra possessions and easy hoops.</p>

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Great analysis of VC and RJ, that wasn't something I paid attention to. I hope Frank takes note on what's worked and what hasn't worked in this game.</p>

And on defense, I LOVED the full court press the Nets ran, DA and Wright worked that to perfection a few times. It got the running game going, and got us some easy buckets, like you said.</p>

 

[Kidd Karma]

I think that's what Frank has to do, rather than our coach the team, find your bread and butter and use it over and over until they show they can stop it. What Pop has Duncan on the left block? Every team has their go to sets.</p>

 

[jarkid]

Ialways feel that we are lack of a big inside presense. I am not saying that we don't have one right now, I hope Krstic, Magloire get more time.</p>

I'd like to see this team is with balance in front court and back court. I don't like we always give way too much pressure on the backcourt - Big Three.</p>

 

[SportsTicker]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Ialways feel that we are lack of a big inside presense. I am not saying that we don't have one right now, I hope Krstic, Magloire get more time.</p>

I'd like to see this team is with balance in front court and back court. I don't like we always give way too much pressure on the backcourt - Big Three.</p>

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The East does have some dominant big men in KG, Bosh, Howard (as long as he is within five feet of the basket), Curry (as long as he doesnt have to pass or defend), O'Neal (getting older), O'Neal (hurt again), etc., but the Bulls dont have a dominant big man, nor do the Pistons. The Cavs think they have one, but don't, in Ilgauskas. Along with the Nets, those were the four Eastern Conference semifinalists.</p>

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