Most hated player on each team

[julius]

The Blazers are asking who you loved to hate the most (on the Celtics), so I think we should come up with a list of that for each team.

So, who do you hate the most on each team? All time, not just current.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Bird. Period. Fuck that fucker.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Bird. Period. Fuck that fucker.

Larry Bird was one of my favorites behind Clyde Drexler.

 

[Haakzilla]

Bill Laimbeer.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Currently, there are really only 3 people I hate in this league (off the top of my head, anyways):

-Mark Gasol. Fucking asshole Spaniard. How someone so ugly could be so successful in this league is beyond me.

-Zach Randolf. Fucker is a butterball who's shape defies the very science of what it means to be a successful basketball player in the NBA. And that fucking smart ass look on his face makes me want to burn his face off with a flame thrower every goddamn time I look at him.

-LaBitch Aldridge. No explanation necessary. I have 3 of his shirts that I'm strongly considering selling.

EDIT: ooooohhhhh. On the Celtics! Well....there's my fail for today.

Got no beef with anyone on that team.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Off the top of my head:

Sixers: Allen Iverson
Mavericks: Derek Fisher
Thunder: Derek Fisher
Heat: Lebron James, Chris Andersen
Cavaliers: Lebron James, Chris Andersen
Pacers: Ron Artest, Stephen Jackson
Rockets: James Harden, Luis Scola
Nuggets: Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin, Chris Andersen
Knicks: John Starks, Carmelo Anthony
Clippers: Blake Griffin, Baron Davis
Spurs: Bruce Bowen, Dennis Rodman
Warriors: Latrell Sprewell, Chris Mullen
Grizzlies: Mike Bibby, Vince Carter, Chris Andersen
Bulls: Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman
Hornets: Chris Andersen, Baron Davis
L*kers: K*be Bryant, Rick Fox, Nick Van Exel.
Celtics: Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce in a toss-up.
Timberwolves: Kevin Garnett and Kevin Garnett.

 

[Daweez04]

Lakers: Kobe
SA: LMA
OKC: Westbrick
Rockets: The Current Team
Whatever team Scola is on right now: Scola
Nuggets: Melo
Jazz: Dwill/Boozer
Clippers: CP3 (I really liked him in NO, but man, I hate him now)
NY: Melo

I dunno who else, that is all I have right now.

 

[julius]

Currently, there are really only 3 people I hate in this league (off the top of my head, anyways):

-Mark Gasol. Fucking asshole Spaniard. How someone so ugly could be so successful in this league is beyond me.

-Zach Randolf. Fucker is a butterball who's shape defies the very science of what it means to be a successful basketball player in the NBA. And that fucking smart ass look on his face makes me want to burn his face off with a flame thrower every goddamn time I look at him.

-LaBitch Aldridge. No explanation necessary. I have 3 of his shirts that I'm strongly considering selling.

EDIT: ooooohhhhh. On the Celtics! Well....there's my fail for today.

Got no beef with anyone on that team.

THEIR question was the Celtics. Mine was the whole league.

 

[noknobs]

Kevin "anything is possible" Garnett, Paul Pierce and Doc Rivers the coach.

 

[Haakzilla]

THEIR question was the Celtics. Mine was the whole league.

Something like this should be helpful to your OP then...

--EASTERN CONFERENCE--

Atlantic

• Boston Celtics = Marcus Smart
• New Jersey Nets = Jayson Williams (the murdering drunk POS)
• New York Knicks = John Starks
• Philadelphia 76ers =
• Toronto Raptors =

Central

• Chicago Bulls =
• Cleveland Cavaliers =
• Detroit Pistons = Bill Laimbeer
• Indiana Pacers =
• Milwaukee Bucks =

Southeast

• Atlanta Hawks =
• Charlotte Bobcats =
• Miami Heat =
• Orlando Magic =
• Washington Wizards =

--WESTERN CONFERENCE--

Northwest

• Denver Nuggets =
• Minnesota Timberwolves =
• Oklahoma City Thunder = Russell Westbrook
• Portland Trail Blazers =
• Utah Jazz = Karl Malone

Pacific

• Golden State Warriors =
• Los Angeles Clippers =
• Los Angeles Lakers = Fuck them all.
• Phoenix Suns = Tom Chambers
• Sacramento Kings =

Southwest

• Dallas Mavericks =
• Houston Rockets =
• Memphis Grizzlies =
• New Orleans Hornets =
• San Antonio Spurs = Bruce Bowen

...YOU'RE welcome!

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Nick van exel? I loved him especially on our team.

How could anyone hate Dennis Rodman? He was so entertaining to watch

 

[julius]

Something like this should be helpful to your OP then...

--EASTERN CONFERENCE--

Atlantic

• Boston Celtics =
• New Jersey Nets =
• New York Knicks =
• Philadelphia 76ers =
• Toronto Raptors =

Central

• Chicago Bulls =
• Cleveland Cavaliers =
• Detroit Pistons = Bill Laimbeer
• Indiana Pacers =
• Milwaukee Bucks =

Southeast

• Atlanta Hawks =
• Charlotte Bobcats =
• Miami Heat =
• Orlando Magic =
• Washington Wizards =

--WESTERN CONFERENCE--

Northwest

• Denver Nuggets =
• Minnesota Timberwolves =
• Oklahoma City Thunder = Russell Westbrook
• Portland Trail Blazers =
• Utah Jazz = Karl Malone

Pacific

• Golden State Warriors =
• Los Angeles Clippers =
• Los Angeles Lakers = Fuck them all.
• Phoenix Suns = Tom Chambers
• Sacramento Kings =

Southwest

• Dallas Mavericks =
• Houston Rockets =
• Memphis Grizzlies =
• New Orleans Hornets =
• San Antonio Spurs = Bruce Bowen

...YOU'RE welcome!

Thanks. I'm actually bed ridden right now, otherwise I would've.

Brownie points going your way.

 

[blue9]

Time heals all wounds - in his playing days I'd say Jordan was my most hated Bull, but I wouldn't list him now...and that goes for most of the greats.

And do I have to have hated the player when they played for their team? Example: I didn't hate Beard until he went to HOU, but he's easily the player I hate the most, and since he played for OKC he would be my most hated player that played for OKC. That's how I'm gonna answer it...

--EASTERN CONFERENCE--

Atlantic

• Boston Celtics = KG
• New Jersey Nets = KG / Kenyon Martin
• New York Knicks = Amare Stoudemire
• Philadelphia 76ers = Mo Cheeks (hated him as a coach)
• Toronto Raptors =

Central

• Chicago Bulls = Rose
• Cleveland Cavaliers = Varejao
• Detroit Pistons =
• Indiana Pacers = Jerm?
• Milwaukee Bucks =

Southeast

• Atlanta Hawks =
• Charlotte Bobcats = Gerald Wallace
  
• Miami Heat = Shaq
• Orlando Magic = Shaq
• Washington Wizards =

--WESTERN CONFERENCE--

Northwest

• Denver Nuggets = Melo
• Minnesota Timberwolves = KG
• Oklahoma City Thunder = Beard
• Portland Trail Blazers = LaMarcus, DA, that dog fighting guy
• Utah Jazz = Malone

Pacific

• Golden State Warriors = Maybe I'm forgetting someone, but I guess for now I'll go with Klay.
• Los Angeles Clippers = CP3
• Los Angeles Lakers = Rick Fox
• Phoenix Suns = Too many to choose from! Dan Marjle?
• Sacramento Kings = Scott Pollard?

Southwest

• Dallas Mavericks = Jason Kidd
• Houston Rockets = Beard
• Memphis Grizzlies =
• New Orleans Hornets = CP3
• San Antonio Spurs = LaMarcus

 

[Draco]

--EASTERN CONFERENCE--

Atlantic

• Boston Celtics = Antoine Walker
• New Jersey Nets = Derrick Coleman
• New York Knicks = Carmelo Anthony
• Philadelphia 76ers = Allen Iverson
• Toronto Raptors = Andre Bargnani

Central

• Chicago Bulls = Eddy Curry
• Cleveland Cavaliers = Danny Ferry
• Detroit Pistons = Bill Laimbeer
• Indiana Pacers = Ron Artest
• Milwaukee Bucks = Glenn Robinson

Southeast

• Atlanta Hawks = Kevin Willis
• Charlotte Bobcats = Stephen Jackson
• Miami Heat = Rony Seikaly
• Orlando Magic = Dwight Howard
• Washington Wizards = Gilbert Arenas

--WESTERN CONFERENCE--

Northwest

• Denver Nuggets = Chris Anderson
• Minnesota Timberwolves = Stephon Marbury
• Oklahoma City Thunder = Clay Bennett
• Portland Trail Blazers = Damon Stoudamire
• Utah Jazz = Greg Ostertag

Pacific

• Golden State Warriors = Matt Barnes
• Los Angeles Clippers = Maurice Taylor
• Los Angeles Lakers = Kobe Bryant
• Phoenix Suns = Shawn Marion
• Sacramento Kings = Olden Polynice

Southwest

• Dallas Mavericks = Chris Gatling
• Houston Rockets = Clyde Drexler
• Memphis Grizzlies = Rudy Gay
• New Orleans Hornets = Chris Paul
• San Antonio Spurs = Bruce Bowen

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'll be editing this.

Atlantic

• Boston Celtics = Kevin Garnett. Punk ass bitch.
• New Jersey Nets = Jason Kidd. Punk ass bitch.
• New York Knicks =
• Philadelphia 76ers =
• Toronto Raptors = Hedo Turkoglu

Central

• Chicago Bulls = Tyson Chandler
• Cleveland Cavaliers = Bobby Sura
• Detroit Pistons = Bill Laimbeer
• Indiana Pacers =
• Milwaukee Bucks =

Southeast

• Atlanta Hawks =
• Charlotte Hornets =
• Miami Heat =
• Orlando Magic = Shaq because he went to LA.
• Washington Wizards =

--WESTERN CONFERENCE--

Northwest

• Denver Nuggets =
• Minnesota Timberwolves = KG.
• Oklahoma City Thunder = KD. "Tough Shit"
• Portland Trail Blazers = LaMarcus Aldridge. Fuck the L-Train.
• Utah Jazz = Mark Eaton.

Pacific

• Golden State Warriors = Chris "All Glocks Down" Mills
• Los Angeles Clippers = Keith Closs
• Los Angeles Lakers = Fuck them all.
• Phoenix Suns = Thunder Dan Majerle
• Sacramento Kings = Hedo Turkoglu.

Southwest

• Dallas Mavericks = Mark Aguirre
• Houston Rockets = Pat Beverly
• Memphis Grizzlies =
• New Orleans Pelicans =
• San Antonio Spurs = LaMarcus Aldridge. Bitch made as bitch.

 

[julius]

--EASTERN CONFERENCE--

Atlantic

• Boston Celtics = Rick Fox
• New Jersey Nets = Jason Kidd
• New York Knicks = Ewing
• Philadelphia 76ers = honestly don't have one
• Toronto Raptors = honestly don't have one

Central

• Chicago Bulls = Horace Grant (tho technically when he was a Laker)
• Cleveland Cavaliers = Varajao
• Detroit Pistons = Rip Hamilton
• Indiana Pacers = Mark Jackson
• Milwaukee Bucks = honestly don't have one

Southeast

• Atlanta Hawks = honestly don't have one
• Charlotte Bobcats/Hornets = honestly don't have one
• Miami Heat = Andersen
• Orlando Magic = McGrady
• Washington Wizards = honestly don't have one

--WESTERN CONFERENCE--

Northwest

• Denver Nuggets = Javale McGee
• Minnesota Timberwolves = KG
• Oklahoma City Thunder = Derek Fisher
• Portland Trail Blazers = Ruben Patterson
• Utah Jazz = Karl Malone
• Seattle SuperSonics = Dale Ellis

Pacific

• Golden State Warriors = Tom Tolbert
• Los Angeles Clippers = Chris Paul
• Los Angeles Lakers = Rick Fox
• Phoenix Suns = Goran Dragic
• Sacramento Kings = Vlade

Southwest

• Dallas Mavericks = Brad Davis
• Houston Rockets = Scola
• Memphis Grizzlies = Beno Udrih
• New Orleans Hornets = Chris Paul
• San Antonio Spurs = Sean Elliot
  
  Honorable mentions go to Rick Fox, Derek Fisher and Rick Fox.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Atlantic

• Boston Celtics = Rajon Rondo
• Brooklyn/New Jersey Nets = Richard Jefferson
• New York Knicks = Quentin Richardson
• Philadelphia 76ers = Lou Williams
• Toronto Raptors = Andrea Bargnani

Central

• Chicago Bulls = Derrick Rose
• Cleveland Cavaliers = Antawn Jamison
• Detroit Pistons = Charlie Villanueva
• Indiana Pacers = Lance Stephenson
• Milwaukee Bucks = Brandon Jennings

Southeast

• Atlanta Hawks = Josh Smith
• Charlotte Bobcats/Hornets = Stephen Jackson
• Miami Heat = Carlos Arroyo
• Orlando Magic = Dwight Howard
• Washington Wizards = DeShawn Stevenson

--WESTERN CONFERENCE--

Northwest

• Denver Nuggets = Carmelo Anthony
• Minnesota Timberwolves = Kevin Garnett
• Oklahoma City Thunder/Seattle Supersonics = Rashad Lewis
• Portland Trail Blazers = LaMarcus Aldridge
• Utah Jazz = Deron Williams

Pacific

• Golden State Warriors = Draymond Green
• Los Angeles Clippers = Darius Miles
• Los Angeles Lakers = K*be Bryant
• Phoenix Suns = Raja Bell
• Sacramento Kings = Vlade Divac

Southwest

• Dallas Mavericks = Lamar Odom
• Houston Rockets = James Harden
• Memphis Grizzlies = Courtney Lee
• New Orleans Pelicans/Hornets = Trevor Ariza
• San Antonio Spurs = Manu Ginobili

 

[theprunetang]

Off The top of my head

Atlantic

• Boston Celtics = Kevin Garnett. Barking like a dog.
• New Jersey Nets = Jason Kidd. Wife beating piece of shit.
• New York Knicks = John Starks.
• Philadelphia 76ers = Allen Iverson. Just kind of whiny and had a punchable persona.
• Toronto Raptors = Chris Bosh. Before he took a backseat to Wade and James he was a self entitled Aldridge type.

Central

• Chicago Bulls = Rodman. Him combined with being on an almost unbeatable team was a bad combo of bravado.
• Cleveland Cavaliers = Dion Waiters. Skill never matched ego.
• Detroit Pistons = Josh Smith. He had some negatives in Atlanta, but Detroit is where he really started falling apart.
• Indiana Pacers = Lance Stephenson. Punk.
• Milwaukee Bucks = MCW. Seemed like a spoiled brat.

Southeast

• Atlanta Hawks = Josh smith again!
• Charlotte Bobcats = Stephen Jackson. Great guy.
• Miami Heat = Alonzo Mourning. I swear he got away with PEDs.
• Orlando Magic = Dwight.
• Washington Wizards = Jevale Mcgee. No brain.

--WESTERN CONFERENCE--

Northwest

• Denver Nuggets = Carmello.
• Minnesota Timberwolves = KG makes it again!
• Oklahoma City Thunder = Westbrook. No need to write anything.
• Portland Trail Blazers = Ruben Patterson. No way I could cheer for that guy.
• Utah Jazz = Karl Malone. The human elbow!

Pacific

• Golden State Warriors = Chris Gatling. Ugh. Loud mouth gangster without the skills to back it up.
• Los Angeles Clippers = Blake Griffin. But seriously, fuck them all and their coach.
• Los Angeles Lakers = Rick Fox. Jerry curl douche bag.
• Phoenix Suns = Amare. Got everything easy from Nash passes but acted like god's son.
• Sacramento Kings = Hedo Turkoglu. I guess Sacramento had a decent Turkish population.

Southwest

• Dallas Mavericks = Raymond Felton. Fat cancer.
• Houston Rockets = Harden and Beverly tie. The beard and the bitch.
• Memphis Grizzlies = Matt Barnes. He is still the same douche-cavern that he was on the Clips.
• New Orleans Hornets = whiny Chris Paul.
• San Antonio Spurs = Bruce Bowen. Dirty. And made way too many lucky shots for me to like him.

 

[BigGameDamian]

--EASTERN CONFERENCE--

Atlantic

• Boston Celtics = Antoine Walker
• New Jersey Nets = Derrick Coleman
• New York Knicks = Carmelo Anthony
• Philadelphia 76ers = Allen Iverson
• Toronto Raptors = Andre Bargnani

Central

• Chicago Bulls = Eddy Curry
• Cleveland Cavaliers = Danny Ferry
• Detroit Pistons = Bill Laimbeer
• Indiana Pacers = Ron Artest
• Milwaukee Bucks = Glenn Robinson

Southeast

• Atlanta Hawks = Kevin Willis
• Charlotte Bobcats = Stephen Jackson
• Miami Heat = Rony Seikaly
• Orlando Magic = Dwight Howard
• Washington Wizards = Gilbert Arenas

--WESTERN CONFERENCE--

Northwest

• Denver Nuggets = Chris Anderson
• Minnesota Timberwolves = Stephon Marbury
• Oklahoma City Thunder = Clay Bennett
• Portland Trail Blazers = Damon Stoudamire
• Utah Jazz = Greg Ostertag

Pacific

• Golden State Warriors = Matt Barnes
• Los Angeles Clippers = Maurice Taylor
• Los Angeles Lakers = Kobe Bryant
• Phoenix Suns = Shawn Marion
• Sacramento Kings = Olden Polynice

Southwest

• Dallas Mavericks = Chris Gatling
• Houston Rockets = Clyde Drexler
• Memphis Grizzlies = Rudy Gay
• New Orleans Hornets = Chris Paul
• San Antonio Spurs = Bruce Bowen

You didn't like Drexler in Houston but you liked him in Portland? Derrick Coleman was a great PF.

 

[dead247]

-EASTERN CONFERENCE--

Atlantic

• Boston Celtics = KG
• New Jersey Nets = Kmart
• New York Knicks = JR Smith
• Philadelphia 76ers = AI
• Toronto Raptors = Drake (close enough)

Central

• Chicago Bulls = Rodman
• Cleveland Cavaliers = JR Smith
• Detroit Pistons = AI
• Indiana Pacers = Artest
• Milwaukee Bucks = Orange Juice Mayonnaise

Southeast

• Atlanta Hawks = Antic
• Charlotte Bobcats = MJ (close enough)
• Miami Heat = LeBrick
• Orlando Magic = Matt Barnes
• Washington Wizards = Merlin

--WESTERN CONFERENCE--

Northwest

• Denver Nuggets = JR Smith
• Minnesota Timberwolves = KG
• Oklahoma City Thunder = Delonte West (brief stint w/ Sonics)
• Portland Trail Blazers = Zbo
• Utah Jazz = Malone

Pacific

• Golden State Warriors = Matt Barnes
• Los Angeles Clippers = Griffenstein/Matt Barnes
• Los Angeles Lakers = duh
• Phoenix Suns = Matt Barnes
• Sacramento Kings = Artest

Southwest

• Dallas Mavericks = Delonte West
• Houston Rockets = Hard-on
• Memphis Grizzlies = Matt Barnes
• New Orleans Hornets = Tyreke Evans
• San Antonio Spurs = Tony Parker

 

[Draco]

You didn't like Drexler in Houston but you liked him in Portland? Derrick Coleman was a great PF.

Porter was always my favorite player from the 90's Blazers. Drexler was like that girl who was great when you first dated but pisses you off more every day after, and somehow you're always linked. But I hate Damon more than any Blazer ever.

Coleman could've been one of the greats if he had work ethic. Those guys piss me off.

 

[theprunetang]

-EASTERN CONFERENCE--

Atlantic

• Boston Celtics = KG
• New Jersey Nets = Kmart
• New York Knicks = JR Smith
• Philadelphia 76ers = AI
• Toronto Raptors = Drake (close enough)

Central

• Chicago Bulls = Rodman
• Cleveland Cavaliers = JR Smith
• Detroit Pistons = AI
• Indiana Pacers = Artest
• Milwaukee Bucks = Orange Juice Mayonnaise

Southeast

• Atlanta Hawks = Antic
• Charlotte Bobcats = MJ (close enough)
• Miami Heat = LeBrick
• Orlando Magic = Matt Barnes
• Washington Wizards = Merlin

--WESTERN CONFERENCE--

Northwest

• Denver Nuggets = JR Smith
• Minnesota Timberwolves = KG
• Oklahoma City Thunder = Delonte West (brief stint w/ Sonics)
• Portland Trail Blazers = Zbo
• Utah Jazz = Malone

Pacific

• Golden State Warriors = Matt Barnes
• Los Angeles Clippers = Griffenstein/Matt Barnes
• Los Angeles Lakers = duh
• Phoenix Suns = Matt Barnes
• Sacramento Kings = Artest

Southwest

• Dallas Mavericks = Delonte West
• Houston Rockets = Hard-on
• Memphis Grizzlies = Matt Barnes
• New Orleans Hornets = Tyreke Evans
• San Antonio Spurs = Tony Parker

I see that you are a huge fan of Matt Barnes.

 

[BonesJones]

Currently, there are really only 3 people I hate in this league (off the top of my head, anyways):

-Mark Gasol. Fucking asshole Spaniard. How someone so ugly could be so successful in this league is beyond me.

-Zach Randolf. Fucker is a butterball who's shape defies the very science of what it means to be a successful basketball player in the NBA. And that fucking smart ass look on his face makes me want to burn his face off with a flame thrower every goddamn time I look at him.

-LaBitch Aldridge. No explanation necessary. I have 3 of his shirts that I'm strongly considering selling.

EDIT: ooooohhhhh. On the Celtics! Well....there's my fail for today.

Got no beef with anyone on that team.

Gasols a good dude

 

[BonesJones]

Based off of current teams:
MIN - Karl Towns
OKC - Serge Ibaka
GSW - Klay Thompson
LAC - The collective group
LAL - Kobe Bryant
SAC - Rajon Rondo
SAS - LaMarsha Aldridge
HOU - James Harden
DAL - Ray Felton
MEM - Lance Stephenson
CLE - LeBron James
MIA - Hassan Whiteside
WAS - Markeiff Morris

 

[dead247]

I see that you are a huge fan of Matt Barnes.

Love the guy.

 

[BlayZa]

dunno how people didnt like Iverson, loved watching him play.

Historically i dont think I've hated any players to the point of having an issues over n above some general negativity.

I loved Garnett & Starbury
It was fun to root against Kobe, but it was only cause he was a killer on the court and a dream breaker for lots of teams.
shrug

the person i currently dislike the most is Harden due to his floppy nature, retarded beard, and beady eyes.

 

[theprunetang]

It was fun to root against Kobe, but it was only cause he was a killer on the court and a dream breaker for lots of teams.
shrug

He was a dream breaker for people who's only dream was to keep a tight butthole as well.

 

[dviss1]

--EASTERN CONFERENCE--

Atlantic

• Boston Celtics = Kevin Garnett
• New Jersey Nets = Kenyon Martin
• New York Knicks = Amare
• Philadelphia 76ers = n/a
• Toronto Raptors = Bargs

Central

• Chicago Bulls = Rodman
• Cleveland Cavaliers = n/a
• Detroit Pistons = Rodman
• Indiana Pacers = Artest
• Milwaukee Bucks = n/a

Southeast

• Atlanta Hawks = n/a
• Charlotte Bobcats = n/a

edit: Oh shit... wait... These MFs DRAFTED Raymond Felton...

• Miami Heat = Pat Riley still smells like piss
• Orlando Magic = n/a
• Washington Wizards = n/a

--WESTERN CONFERENCE--

Northwest

• Denver Nuggets = n/a
• Minnesota Timberwolves = Kevin Garnett
• Oklahoma City Thunder = Russell Westbrook
• Portland Trail Blazers = Darius Miles
• Utah Jazz = Ostertag

Pacific

• Golden State Warriors = n/a
• Los Angeles Clippers = Chris Paul
• Los Angeles Lakers = They all smell like piss..
• Phoenix Suns = Amare
• Sacramento Kings = Divac

Southwest

• Dallas Mavericks = n/a
• Houston Rockets = The Flopper
• Memphis Grizzlies = n/a
• New Orleans Hornets = Chris Paul
• San Antonio Spurs = TT

 

[MickZagger]

Why so much hate in our hearts?

I refuse to fill out the template.

 

[jlprk]

The only time I dislike someone is when the media loves him way too much, like Pritchard, Shaq, or Barkley. I exist to compensate for the extremes of others. Number 1 is Shaq. Then there are several too trivial to mention. Like Karl Malone and Garnett.