Most influencial singer of each Genre?

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Rap- Jay-Z/TupacCountry- Jonny CashRock- Led ZepellinPop- Michael JacksonMetal- MetallicaClassical- I dont know... Mozart? Beethoven?
 
Rap- Public Enemy/Tupac/EminemCountry-Johny CashRock- Led Zepellin/Elvis PresleyPop- Michael JacksonMetal- Metallica/Black SabbathClassical- Beethoven
 
Rap- Tupac easilyCountry- Johnny CashRock- The BeatlesPop- Michael JacksonMetal- don't knowClassical- don't know
 
Rap-N.W.A./Public EnemyCountry-Johnny CashRock-BeatlesPop-Rick James, bi*ch
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 12 2006, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tupac the most influential? Ehhh........</div> :ohmy: How can you not agree?
 
Because it's not true maybe? Unlike everyone else who says Tupac for everything, Nas, Rakim, Chuck D/Public Enemy, Ice Cube, KRS-One all hold there own as influential rappers. It's hard to say just one but Lakaboy was pretty close with his list.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 12 2006, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Because it's not true maybe? Unlike everyone else who says Tupac for everything, Nas, Rakim, Chuck D/Public Enemy, Ice Cube, KRS-One all hold there own as influential rappers. It's hard to say just one but Lakaboy was pretty close with his list.</div>Yeah but you don't hear about these guys anywhere as much as Tupac. They might be good to you but more people are influenced by Tupac than them and he's definetly more popular.LOL btw Lakersfan Elvis wasn't country he was rock...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Jul 13 2006, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah but you don't hear about these guys anywhere as much as Tupac. They might be good to you but more people are influenced by Tupac than them and he's definetly more popular.LOL btw Lakersfan Elvis wasn't country he was rock...</div>That makes no sense, so because you haven't heard of them doesn't mean they didn't affect hip-hop? These guys were around in the 80's, they weren't just "great rappers' they were the pioneers of the genre. So because you haven't heard of QN5 or Tonedeff means 50 Cent is better then them? KRS-One along with Rakim and Nas are considered the top 3 rappers all time, I'm sure anyone that knows an inch about hip-hop will tell you that. Yes Tupac was great and all but who knows if he would be so popular had it not been for all the hype concerning his death and Suge Knight.
 
I only know enough about rap to say. But this is tough. I mean arguably we wouldn't be "rapping" over a black track today if it wasn't for the sugar hill gang. And that whole gangster thing started with the NWA. People started bragging bout their cars and womens with Diddy and Biggy. Everyone aspires to be like 2pac. Honestly anyone of those guys could be the most influential.
 
Rap-TupacCountry-Johnny CashRock-The BeatlesPop-Michael JacksonJazz-Louis ArmstrongClassical-Beethoven
 
For those that don't know, Tupac would probably be nothing if it weren't for Ice Cube and the whole NWA. They are the ones that started the "gangster" theme of music which Tupac copied.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 12 2006, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That makes no sense, so because you haven't heard of them doesn't mean they didn't affect hip-hop? These guys were around in the 80's, they weren't just "great rappers' they were the pioneers of the genre. So because you haven't heard of QN5 or Tonedeff means 50 Cent is better then them? KRS-One along with Rakim and Nas are considered the top 3 rappers all time, I'm sure anyone that knows an inch about hip-hop will tell you that. Yes Tupac was great and all but who knows if he would be so popular had it not been for all the hype concerning his death and Suge Knight.</div>I didn't say I've never heard of them. I've heard of all of them. I'm saying more people out there see Tupac as the most influencial rapper over rappers like Public Enemy or Rakim. BTW it seems like all your debating is who you like better. You can't deny more people are influenced by Tupac than Public Enemy. Same with most people now a days are influenced by guys like 50 Cent or the Game over Public Enemy. Does that mean they're better or more talented?? No it means more people look up to them and are influenced by them because they're the big things out there.
 
Right but you yourself said "Tupac easily" which is very off. I'm sure Tupac would have been nothing had it not been for Ice Cube, there are plenty of influential rappers out there so it doesn't make sense to pick just one but I can tell you Tupac is not the most influential. Most influential doesn't mean who is more known or whatever. Now the topic is who is the most influential, now who is this question directed to, the fans or the rappers? To me, it's a mix of both but it's more important on the rappers side, people like Nas, Rakim and Run DMC influence other rappers like G-Unit, had it not been for them they probably wouldn't exist. I don't see how Tupac is more influential then the rappers who actually influenced him, if not for them he wouldn't be there. Lastly, Public Enemy and Rakim where well known back in there time, Tupac is only known in the 00's.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 12 2006, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Right but you yourself said "Tupac easily" which is very off. I'm sure Tupac would have been nothing had it not been for Ice Cube, there are plenty of influential rappers out there so it doesn't make sense to pick just one but I can tell you Tupac is not the most influential. Most influential doesn't mean who is more known or whatever. Now the topic is who is the most influential, now who is this question directed to, the fans or the rappers? To me, it's a mix of both but it's more important on the rappers side, people like Nas, Rakim and Run DMC influence other rappers like G-Unit, had it not been for them they probably wouldn't exist. I don't see how Tupac is more influential then the rappers who actually influenced him, if not for them he wouldn't be there. Lastly, Public Enemy and Rakim where well known back in there time, Tupac is only known in the 00's.</div>I know what most influential means. It means what rappers influence people the most not which rapper is more like. I'm just saying you can't deny that Tupac influences more people now a days then rappers like Public Enemy. It doesn't matter if rappers liek Ice Cube influenced Tupac it only matter who is more influencel now and that is Tupac. Don't try and say the people you listed are influencing more people these days.
 
Please tell me when this says it was only in the 00's? As far as I'm concerned Public Enemy has far more influence then Tupac ever did, they were political rappers and got lots of attention back when they were good.
 
Rap- TupacCountry- Johnny CashRock- The BeatlesPop- Michael JacksonJazz- Ray Charles
 
Rap- Nas for me.Country- Jonny CashRock- Led ZepellinPop- Michael Jackson\Classical- Beethoven
 
I'm sorry, but Tupac made rap big. How can you not put him for rap? Everyone loved Pac.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Jul 13 2006, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rap- TupacCountry- Johnny CashRock- The BeatlesPop- Michael JacksonJazz- Ray Charles</div>Ray Charles was an R&B artist.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 13 2006, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm sorry, but Tupac made rap big. How can you not put him for rap? Everyone loved Pac.</div>LMAO, your saying Tupac was the one that made Rap popular? :no1: :no1: :no1:
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 13 2006, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LMAO, your saying Tupac was the one that made Rap popular? :no1: :no1: :no1:</div>tupac didnt make rap big,it was already popular but the west coast/east coast made it bigger (the biggie and pac beef)And by the way I just want to get this out in the open.Nas is a good rapper and all I like alot of his songs but the man stole tupac's flow.On his song "Street Dreams" Nas copies tupac's beat from "All Eyez On Me" and also copied 2pac's t.h.u.g.l.i.f.e. motto.Nas is one of my favorite rappers but if anything he would be nothing as would 2pac from public enemy and NWA.Guys like Kool Moe Dee and LL Cool J get no credit for what they did for rap.LL Cool J is not that big right now but in the late 80's and early 90's he was HUGE for the hip hop culture.Also,Tupac did not take anyone's style he invented his own.Tupac is not a gangsta rapper,his is a poetic rapper as he stated numerous time throughout his life yet people like the governent and activists blamed 2pac for crimes and things going on the city stating it was his music causing it.That is a load of bullsh**.All tupac did was expose the truth and everybody went crazy and said it was his fault.Tupac is one of the greatest mcs/rappers of all time and did alot to unite communities all over the united states.He held get togethers with local gangs to have peace with one another etc. and is one of the most influential rappers of all-time along with many others who influenced hip hip in their own way or form.
 
Rap-MC Hammer/ Vanilla Ice( JK ) IMO TupacCountry- Johnny Cash ( Im a fan of his)Rock- QueenPop-Michael JacksonMetal-Metallics ( I dunno
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jul 13 2006, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>tupac didnt make rap big,it was already popular but the west coast/east coast made it bigger (the biggie and pac beef)And by the way I just want to get this out in the open.Nas is a good rapper and all I like alot of his songs but the man stole tupac's flow.On his song "Street Dreams" Nas copies tupac's beat from "All Eyez On Me" and also copied 2pac's t.h.u.g.l.i.f.e. motto.Nas is one of my favorite rappers but if anything he would be nothing as would 2pac from public enemy and NWA.Guys like Kool Moe Dee and LL Cool J get no credit for what they did for rap.LL Cool J is not that big right now but in the late 80's and early 90's he was HUGE for the hip hop culture.Also,Tupac did not take anyone's style he invented his own.Tupac is not a gangsta rapper,his is a poetic rapper as he stated numerous time throughout his life yet people like the governent and activists blamed 2pac for crimes and things going on the city stating it was his music causing it.That is a load of bullsh**.All tupac did was expose the truth and everybody went crazy and said it was his fault.Tupac is one of the greatest mcs/rappers of all time and did alot to unite communities all over the united states.He held get togethers with local gangs to have peace with one another etc. and is one of the most influential rappers of all-time along with many others who influenced hip hip in their own way or form.</div>Lots of rappers have used beats and rhymes from others, Jay-Z is well known for that. Also, Illmatic > Anything Tupac has ever dropped. Furthermore, you have to be joking if your not saying Tupac isn't a gangster rapper, the whole thug life crap isn't being a gangster? Ice Cube was the first one to have that style and rap about it every time and Tupac soon copied. What I'am trying to say is there is not just one who influenced and there shouldn't be a debate about who influenced the genre more, it's like trying to argue who was more important out of Queen, Halen, Zeppelin and so on.
 
Rap- NWACountry- Johnny CashRock- The Beatles, you can not say anybody else, they influenced so many great bands.Pop- Rick JamesMetal- MetallicaClassical- idk BeethovenHeatfan is right about Tupac, one of my favorite artists, but he wasn't the most influential imo.
 
Yeah, I don't see how rap's most influential is 2pac, that's just stupid. I can't see how rap has changed since he started. How exactly did he influence the genre? Did he actually change anything about it? I'd say not much.And yeah, Elvis did sing country. He was from Tennessee, for Christ sakes. He didn't just do rock, he did gospel, country, bluegrass, etc.Rap- NWACountry- I want to argue someone besides Johnny Cash, but I don't know country that well.Rock- I think this is pretty broad, but I guess I'd have to say the Beatles.Pop- Michael Jackson for newer pop, but the idea of pop was probably created through Elvis.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Jul 13 2006, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lots of rappers have used beats and rhymes from others, Jay-Z is well known for that. Also, Illmatic > Anything Tupac has ever dropped. Furthermore, you have to be joking if your not saying Tupac isn't a gangster rapper, the whole thug life crap isn't being a gangster? Ice Cube was the first one to have that style and rap about it every time and Tupac soon copied. What I'am trying to say is there is not just one who influenced and there shouldn't be a debate about who influenced the genre more, it's like trying to argue who was more important out of Queen, Halen, Zeppelin and so on.</div>2pac's "thug life" means:TheHateUGiveLlittleInfantsFucksEveryoneIt was hard to find the link but I found one.http://www.thuglifearmy.com/news/?id=8
 
So Tupac doesn't dress or talk like a gangster? Give me a break.
 
Rap-Tupac Shakur. Most influential isn't always the first.Country- Johnny CashRock- Paul, George, Ringo and JohnPop- MJMetal- This is tough to say, because there is hard rock, and then there is metal. Hard Rock is Robert Plant, and Metal might just have to be Metallica's lead singer.Classical- There is no singing in Classical. But, Mozart was a stud.
 
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