Politics My Effing first amendment

[Further]

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/

This American Life’s most recent podcast is on the campus battles between conservatives and liberals on the University of Nebraska campus.

Really interesting look that doesn’t present from the right or the left. It’s worth. Listen.

 

[MarAzul]

Listening now.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Didn't listen, but read the transcript instead. Really well done. That Steve Kolowich is an excellent journalist.

I came into the reading with a bias as I'm one of the conservatives mentioned therein who think that the ideological proselytizing prevalent on college campuses is having a negative effect on the country. That said, I don't think the English professor (Courtney) came off very well.

 

[barfo]

I tried to read that - it seems like they are a mirror image of what they are complaining about.

barfo

 

[Further]

I tried to read that - it seems like they are a mirror image of what they are complaining about.

barfo

I think this is true of both sides. Both sides claim to be free speech advocates but both want the that right only for themselves. (Free speech zones are crap and so is bouncing teachers with opposing personal views)

I’m a liberal and I don’t like the BS spewed by many right-wingers but I’m not too keen on banning them from campuses. I’d rather let them speak and let their voices be drowned out by all those god-hating comie bastard snowflakes. Kidding (kind of) I’m all for their ideas being discredited and them being exposed for whatever they are (racist, homophobic, ,.....) and if they happen to have the better idea, let that idea win out.

 

[barfo]

I think this is true of both sides. Both sides claim to be free speech advocates but both want the that right only for themselves. (Free speech zones are crap and so is bouncing teachers with opposing personal views)

I’m a liberal and I don’t like the BS spewed by many right-wingers but I’m not too keen on banning them from campuses. I’d rather let them speak and let their voices be drowned out by all those god-hating comie bastard snowflakes. Kidding (kind of) I’m all for their ideas being discredited and them being exposed for whatever they are (racist, homophobic, ,.....) and if they happen to have the better idea, let that idea win out.

I tend to agree with you. Let whoever talk wherever. People don't realize how powerful the real-life "ignore" function is - it should be invoked far more often.

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I tried to read that - it seems like they are a mirror image of what they are complaining about.

barfo

I haven't read it yet but sounds kinda like you and @Cippy91

Haha

 

[Cippy91]

I haven't read it yet but sounds kinda like you and @Cippy91

Haha

I would rather go listen to an episode of the Joe Rogan Experience. I started to read it. I saw Ben Shapiros name. I agree with him on a lot but also disagree with him on some shit. I read a bit but don't even know what is going on.

 

[MarAzul]

I think this is true of both sides. Both sides claim to be free speech advocates but both want the that right only for themselves. (Free speech zones are crap and so is bouncing teachers with opposing personal views)

I’m a liberal and I don’t like the BS spewed by many right-wingers but I’m not too keen on banning them from campuses. I’d rather let them speak and let their voices be drowned out by all those god-hating comie bastard snowflakes. Kidding (kind of) I’m all for their ideas being discredited and them being exposed for whatever they are (racist, homophobic, ,.....) and if they happen to have the better idea, let that idea win out.

I guess I come from a different point of view yet. I think we know the views of each set, at least as well as we are going to want to know. I think there is little benefit in discussing the issues of conservative vs liberal, especial on campus while paying their giant nickel. Discuss until you can no more and no one will change. The characteristics that make a person liberal or conservative are not learned. They come with your character type and no amount of discussion will alter these traits.

We debate the issues in government from the two points of view and a few in between, mostly unsuccessfully, but we must. We must to govern, otherwise the alternatives are grim.

One would be better served to study and understand the human character that makes us the liberal or the conservative as this is useful when understood, to persuade, market, and negotiate. But to waste the time and money going head to head
will be fruitless. It is here, it can't work any better on campus or else where. It is even worse to allow it to become personal and worse yet, disrespectful.

 

[barfo]

I tried to read that - it seems like they are a mirror image of what they are complaining about.

barfo

I haven't read it yet but sounds kinda like you and @Cippy91

Haha

Cippy, are you going to take that kind of abuse from bodyman? Everybody knows I'm a commie pinko, so he's obviously calling you a tiki-torch carrying member of the alt-right.

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Cippy, are you going to take that kind of abuse from bodyman? Everybody knows I'm a commie pinko, so he's obviously calling you a tiki-torch carrying member of the alt-right.

barfo

He'll get over it. Or kill himself. I'm leaning towards him getting over it.

 

[Cippy91]

Cippy, are you going to take that kind of abuse from bodyman? Everybody knows I'm a commie pinko, so he's obviously calling you a tiki-torch carrying member of the alt-right.

barfo

The difference is I know he doesn't really believe I am a conservative or any of that. He knows

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

The difference is I know he doesn't really believe I am a conservative or any of that. He knows

I don't even believe barfo is a real pirate. Or person.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

The difference is I know he doesn't really believe I am a conservative or any of that. He knows

If Barfo is real, barfo is one of the people in this story. Not sure who though. I have a hard time comparing commie pinkos.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/he-makes-a-joke-she-isn-t/243350

 

[barfo]

If Barfo is real, barfo is one of the people in this story. Not sure who though. I have a hard time comparing commie pinkos.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/he-makes-a-joke-she-isn-t/243350

I do appear in that story, but not as one of the people. I'm the elevator, and those people were PRESSING MY BUTTONS!

barfo

 

[MARIS61]

If Barfo is real, barfo is one of the people in this story. Not sure who though. I have a hard time comparing commie pinkos.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/he-makes-a-joke-she-isn-t/243350

wiki:
Lingerie joke incident[edit]
On April 5, 2018, while attending the annual conference on international relations studies organized by the International Studies Association, Sharoni filed a complaint that she was standing near the elevator at a San Francisco hotel and she offered to press the elevator buttons when Professor Ned Lebow, who teaches political theory at King's College London, "said with a smile on his face, 'women's lingerie' and all his buddies laughed." Lebow refused to apologize and decided to go public. "This is a kangaroo court and is damaging to my career because there are people out there who somehow believe I'm a misogynist," he said.

"From inappropriate jokes in public spaces to unwanted sexual advances and assault, men in positions of power are outraged when they are being held accountable, even if the sanction is as minor as a request for an apology," Sharoni said. Of more than 2,300 comments on a Washington Post story about the incident, the vast majority condemned Sharoni.