Myers-Briggs Type Indicator

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Some people have a deep-rooted need to interact with others. My six-year-old daughter is an extreme E, and sometimes it is very hard on both of us. We start out the day with the same energy level, and as time goes by, and we both get tired, I need alone time, and she starts to get manic, and needs to spend time playing with me. Soon we are at each other's throats. She can't help the way she is, though. My mother, too, is an E. After dinner, after feeding my family, wrestling them to bed, and cleaning, up, I just want to run off and scream. She wants to sit around the table, drinking tea, and chat about whatever random thoughts pop into her head. It is hard for extreme "I"s to adjust to that sort of behavior.

Let me add that understanding what type my daughter is--I typed her as an extreme ESFJ since she was two, and she hasn't deveiated from that--has helped improve my ability to interact with her. I understand what motivates her, what her behavior will be. For example, I know that she will get upset if I spring a "surprise" on her, such as that we are going to Bennigan's for lunch when she was expecting to go to Friday's, and that to counter this, I have to map out our schedule as far in advance as possible. Sometimes, though, she keeps her expectations private, and she'll sometimes get upset when we do something that she isn't expecting--there's no way to counter that.
 
One more thing I wanted to add. I found that when I first took the test, found out what I was, and that I was perfectly described by the literature, it was a very liberating experience. As an INTP--as some of you--I had gotten used to most people laughing at my ideas and not taking them seriously, to the extent that I'd preface them myself with the phrase, "this is probably a crazy idea, but . . ." Myers-Briggs showed me that the problem wasn't me, but that everyone else just can't keep from thinking linearly and seeing the world and events in terms of facts, and not patterns and concepts. Now, I'm much more confident in my thoughts and ideas--if someone doesn't get what I am saying, and refuse to explore it further, it is because they are small-minded and stuck in their own narrow world, not because there is necessarily anything wrong with what I am saying. The INTPs include people like Einstein, Darwin, DesCartes, Blaise Pascal, Socrates, etc. These are people who learned not to be bound by commonly-held beliefes and so-called conventional wisdom.

So I guess you can say that I've become more dismissive and annoyed at SJs for their insistence on sticking with the the way things have always been done, and what they think is "common sense," which is just a lack of imagination.
 
You can believe what you want, but refusing to learn about the value of a pretty widely accepted emotional intelligence technique doesn't give your name-calling much credence. ;)

Ed O.

George Bush was pretty widely accepted for over 4 years, but now has been almost universally de-bunked as a fraud.

In life, as in silly attempts to cateragorize people into neat and tidy cubicles, perception is everything.

I took the 3 tests, and got 2 different outcomes. I attribute this to the wording changes between the similar questions from test to test. I am sure I would interpret the answers to the tests differently than the authors do, since we see things differently, and therefore woulld assign test-takers to different catagories than the authors.

As a further experiment, I re-took the tests answering them as I would have 20 years ago, and came up with 2 different outcomes again, but quite different from my outcomes of present time.

People change.
 
there's also how I'd like to live my life and how it is actually lived to.

for example I like to go out with a bunch of ppl and just talk have a few beers etc or go watch a sporting event, but my wife is not like that so we tend to keep to ourselves more. It bothers me at times because I see less of my friends but we do lots of stuff together so it's not like my life sucks either.

so in answering the questions I get caught between reality and what I'd like to do more.

remember that you aren't RESTRICTED to acting a certain way; there's nothing to keep you from going against type; it just takes effort, and it is hard to do for long periods of time. I liken it to reducing the amount of oxygen in a room. A candle will still burn, but it won't burn as efficiently.
 
George Bush was pretty widely accepted for over 4 years, but now has been almost universally de-bunked as a fraud.

In life, as in silly attempts to cateragorize people into neat and tidy cubicles, perception is everything.

I took the 3 tests, and got 2 different outcomes. I attribute this to the wording changes between the similar questions from test to test. I am sure I would interpret the answers to the tests differently than the authors do, since we see things differently, and therefore woulld assign test-takers to different catagories than the authors.

As a further experiment, I re-took the tests answering them as I would have 20 years ago, and came up with 2 different outcomes again, but quite different from my outcomes of present time.

People change.

You are right; people can change over time, especially if they aren't extremes in any category. Remember that these tests are not the "official" Myers-Briggs test, but rough approximations that someone devised. They are not as accurate as the official test would be, but it is expensive and time-consuming. Regardless, it sounds as if you are probably in the middle of one or two scales, so your preferences would be pretty slight in any event. I've heard that the tests don't do as good a job describing preferences for people that are "in the middle" of multiple dichotomies. Fortunately or unfortunately, I am not one of them.
 
I was an INTJ 15 years ago when I first took the test in high school. I am an INTJ today, based on 2 of the test I just took. But I am much closer to E than I was then, and about 50/50 T vs. F.

It kind of makes sense, though...I'm moving from "scientist" to "executive", and feel strongly the role of "protector".
 
I am very heavily I and F. Those will never change. I am moderate N and J. These are still pretty strong, but if there are inconsistancies, that's where they are.
 
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Someone analyze me!
 
Someone analyze me!
It's a classic case of Pittsnagle-Bryerson syndrome, which is often correlated with Woods Cranial lesions.
You may have only 2 months to live, and you'll be deeply, deeply unhappy doing it.
On the positive side, you are probably good at woodcarving, and you are attracted to butterflies with an almost sexual passion. Basically, what Ed said.

barfo
 
These descriptions fit people as good as a horoscope does. Fine work!
 
It's a classic case of Pittsnagle-Bryerson syndrome, which is often correlated with Woods Cranial lesions.
You may have only 2 months to live, and you'll be deeply, deeply unhappy doing it.
On the positive side, you are probably good at woodcarving, and you are attracted to butterflies with an almost sexual passion. Basically, what Ed said.

barfo

Yes, the doctors were off by a month! :ghoti:
 
ENFJ is pretty rare--only 2.5% of the population. You are closely related to Ghoti, who is an INFJ. (roughly 50% of the population is xSxJ).

ENFJs are described using the following words:
Appreciative
Congenial
Diplomatic
Energetic
Enthusiastic
Expressive
Idealistic
Loyal
Organized
Personable
Responsible
Supportive

They are people-oriented and social; are decisive; and seek responsiveness and order. They enjoy leading and facilitating teams, and encourage cooperation.

Pitfalls include:

--may idealize others and suffer from blind loyalty
--may sweep problems under the rug when in conflict
--may take criticism personally and be overly self-critical

ENFJs are the benevolent 'pedagogues' of humanity. They have tremendous charisma by which many are drawn into their nurturant tutelage and/or grand schemes. Many ENFJs have tremendous power to manipulate others with their phenomenal interpersonal skills and unique salesmanship. But it's usually not meant as manipulation -- ENFJs generally believe in their dreams, and see themselves as helpers and enablers, which they usually are.

ENFJs are global learners. They see the big picture. The ENFJs focus is expansive. Some can juggle an amazing number of responsibilities or projects simultaneously. Many ENFJs have tremendous entrepreneurial ability.

ENFJs are, by definition, Js, with whom we associate organization and decisiveness. But they don't resemble the SJs or even the NTJs in organization of the environment nor occasional recalcitrance. ENFJs are organized in the arena of interpersonal affairs. Their offices may or may not be cluttered, but their conclusions (reached through feelings) about people and motives are drawn much more quickly and are more resilient than those of their NFP counterparts.

ENFJs know and appreciate people. Like most NFs, (and Feelers in general), they are apt to neglect themselves and their own needs for the needs of others. They have thinner psychological boundaries than most, and are at risk for being hurt or even abused by less sensitive people. ENFJs often take on more of the burdens of others than they can bear.

TRADEMARK: "The first shall be last"
This refers to the open-door policy of ENFJs. One ENFJ colleague always welcomes me into his office regardless of his own circumstances. If another person comes to the door, he allows them to interrupt our conversation with their need. While discussing that need, the phone rings and he stops to answer it. Others drop in with a 'quick question.' I finally get up, go to my office and use the call waiting feature on the telephone. When he hangs up, I have his undivided attention!

Functional Analysis:

Extraverted Feeling
Extraverted Feeling rules the ENFJ's psyche. In the sway of this rational function, these folks are predisposed to closure in matters pertaining to people, and especially on behalf of their beloved. As extraverts, their contacts are wide ranging. Face-to-face relationships are intense, personable and warm, though they may be so infrequently achieved that intimate friendships are rare.

Introverted iNtuition

Like their INFJ cousins, ENFJs are blessed through introverted intuition with clarity of perception in the inner, unconscious world. Dominant Feeling prefers to find the silver lining in even the most beggarly perceptions of those in their expanding circle of friends and, of course, in themselves. In less balanced individuals, such mitigation of the unseemly eventually undermines the ENFJ's integrity and frequently their good name. In healthier individuals, deft use of this awareness of the inner needs and desires of others enables this astute type to win friends, influence people, and avoid compromising entanglements.
The dynamic nature of their intuition moves ENFJs from one project to another with the assurance that the next one will be perfect, or much more nearly so than the last. ENFJs are continually looking for newer and better solutions to benefit their extensive family, staff, or organization.

Extraverted Sensing
Sensing is extraverted. ENFJs can manage details, particularly those necessary to implement the prevailing vision. These data have, however, a magical flexible quality. Something to be bought can be had for a song; the same something is invaluable when it's time to sell. (We are not certain, but we suspect that such is the influence of the primary function.) This wavering of sensory perception is made possible by the weaker and less mature status with which the tertiary is endowed.

Introverted Thinking
Introverted Thinking is least apparent and most enigmatic in this type. In fact, it often appears only when summoned by Feeling. At times only in jest, but in earnest if need be, Thinking entertains as logical only those conclusions which support Feeling's values. Other scenarios can be shown invalid or at best significantly inferior. Such "Thinking in the service of Feeling" has the appearance of logic, but somehow it never quite adds up.

Introverted Thinking is frequently the focus of the spiritual quest of ENFJs. David's lengthiest psalm, 119, pays it homage. "Law," "precept," "commandment," "statute:" these essences of inner thinking are the mysteries of Deity for which this great Feeler's soul searched.

Famous ENFJs:
David, King of Israel
U.S. Presidents:
Abraham Lincoln
Ronald Reagan

William Cullen Bryant, poet
Abraham Maslow, psychologist and proponent of self-actualization
Ross Perot
Sean Connery
Elizabeth Dole
Francois Mitterand
Dick Van Dyke
Andy Griffith
James Garner
William Aramony, former president of United Way
Gene Hackman (Superman, Antz)
Dennis Hopper (Speed)
Brenda Vaccaro
Craig T. Nelson (Coach)
Diane Sawyer (Good Morning America)
Randy Quaid (Bye Bye, Love; Independence Day)
Tommy Lee Jones (The Fugitive)
Kirstie Alley ("Cheers," Look Who's Talking movies)
Michael Jordan, NBA basketball player
Johnny Depp (Pirates of the Caribbean)
Oprah Winfrey
Bob Saget America's Funniest Home Videos, Full House
Julia Louis-Dreyfus ("Seinfeld")
Ben Stiller (The Royal Tenenbaums)
Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts quarterback
Matthew McConaughey (The Wedding Planner)
Pete Sampras, Tennis Champion
Lauren Graham ("Gilmore Girls")
Ben Affleck (The Sum Of All Fears)
John Cusack (High Fidelity)

Fictional ENFJs:
Joe Hackett, Wings


As an ENFJ, you're primary mode of living is focused externally, where you deal with things according to how you feel about them, or how they fit into your personal value system. Your secondary mode is internal, where you take things in primarily via your intuition.

ENFJs are people-focused individuals. They live in the world of people possibilities. More so than any other type, they have excellent people skills. They understand and care about people, and have a special talent for bringing out the best in others. ENFJ's main interest in life is giving love, support, and a good time to other people. They are focused on understanding, supporting, and encouraging others. They make things happen for people, and get their best personal satisfaction from this.

Because ENFJ's people skills are so extraordinary, they have the ability to make people do exactly what they want them to do. They get under people's skins and get the reactions that they are seeking. ENFJ's motives are usually unselfish, but ENFJs who have developed less than ideally have been known to use their power over people to manipulate them.

ENFJ's are so externally focused that it's especially important for them to spend time alone. This can be difficult for some ENFJs, because they have the tendency to be hard on themselves and turn to dark thoughts when alone. Consequently, ENFJs might avoid being alone, and fill their lives with activities involving other people. ENFJs tend to define their life's direction and priorities according to other people's needs, and may not be aware of their own needs. It's natural to their personality type that they will tend to place other people's needs above their own, but they need to stay aware of their own needs so that they don't sacrifice themselves in their drive to help others.

ENFJ's tend to be more reserved about exposing themselves than other extraverted types. Although they may have strongly-felt beliefs, they're likely to refrain from expressing them if doing so would interfere with bringing out the best in others. Because their strongest interest lies in being a catalyst of change in other people, they're likely to interact with others on their own level, in a chameleon-like manner, rather than as individuals.

Which is not to say that the ENFJ does not have opinions. ENFJs have definite values and opinions which they're able to express clearly and succinctly. These beliefs will be expressed as long as they're not too personal. ENFJ is in many ways expressive and open, but is more focused on being responsive and supportive of others. When faced with a conflict between a strongly-held value and serving another person's need, they are highly likely to value the other person's needs.

The ENFJ may feel quite lonely even when surrounded by people. This feeling of aloneness may be exacerbated by the tendency to not reveal their true selves.

People love ENFJs. They are fun to be with, and truly understand and love people. They are typically very straight-forward and honest. Usually ENFJs exude a lot of self-confidence, and have a great amount of ability to do many different things. They are generally bright, full of potential, energetic and fast-paced. They are usually good at anything which captures their interest.

ENFJs like for things to be well-organized, and will work hard at maintaining structure and resolving ambiguity. They have a tendency to be fussy, especially with their home environments.

In the work place, ENFJs do well in positions where they deal with people. They are naturals for the social committee. Their uncanny ability to understand people and say just what needs to be said to make them happy makes them naturals for counseling. They enjoy being the center of attention, and do very well in situations where they can inspire and lead others, such as teaching.

ENFJs do not like dealing with impersonal reasoning. They don't understand or appreciate its merit, and will be unhappy in situations where they're forced to deal with logic and facts without any connection to a human element. Living in the world of people possibilities, they enjoy their plans more than their achievements. They get excited about possibilities for the future, but may become easily bored and restless with the present.

ENFJs have a special gift with people, and are basically happy people when they can use that gift to help others. They get their best satisfaction from serving others. Their genuine interest in Humankind and their exceptional intuitive awareness of people makes them able to draw out even the most reserved individuals.

ENFJs have a strong need for close, intimate relationships, and will put forth a lot of effort in creating and maintaining these relationships. They're very loyal and trustworthy once involved in a relationship.

An ENFJ who has not developed their Feeling side may have difficulty making good decisions, and may rely heavily on other people in decision-making processes. If they have not developed their Intuition, they may not be able to see possibilities, and will judge things too quickly based on established value systems or social rules, without really understanding the current situation. An ENFJ who has not found their place in the world is likely to be extremely sensitive to criticism, and to have the tendency to worry excessively and feel guilty. They are also likely to be very manipulative and controling with others.

In general, ENFJs are charming, warm, gracious, creative and diverse individuals with richly developed insights into what makes other people tick. This special ability to see growth potential in others combined with a genuine drive to help people makes the ENFJ a truly valued individual. As giving and caring as the ENFJ is, they need to remember to value their own needs as well as the needs of others.


Profile by Sandra Krebs Hirsch and Jean Kummerow.

ENFJs are lively and enthusiastic facilitators who apply warmth and vision to helping people and meeting their needs. They are aware of people's aspirations and develop plans of action to make those aspirations into reality. They like organization and closure. They are at their best facilitating situations that require interpersonal sensitivity. ENFJs are tolerant and appreciative of others, seeking involvement with them in life's tasks. They are able communicators who are liberal in showing appreciation for others.



Living

ENFJ children want life to be friendly, harmonious, and lively. They are responsible children because they like to please others and meet their needs. In doing for others, they usually find satisfaction for themselves. They are upset by conflict or disharmony. They are pleasant, exuberant and talkative.

ENFJ teenagers are constantly on the go, participating in many, many things. They enjoy a wide variety of activities, not only for that variety but also for the action and opportunity to be with others. They love being involved with friends, clubs, and any activities that let them be with others. ENFJs are often voted most congenial or nicest person in their class. Additionally, they may serve as leaders in their school activities. As students, they are able to focus on the interpersonal spirit or nature of the school and to speak eloquently to others about the school's best values. ENFJs are likable because they notice what is good about people.

As young adults, ENFJs set goals early on, both in the personal and professional realms. They follow through diligently and usually attain what they seek. Often the goals they set have to do with making society a better place for people. ENFJs may sometimes feel pulled between financial gain and spiritual gain.

Many ENFJs take their religious and community values seriously and want others to do the same. Loyalty, commitment, and responsibility are important values to ENFJs, even as children. They often settle into organizations that have a values orientation, or they will find a spot in an organization that is centered on values or people's need. ENFJs make responsible spouses, employees, and community members. Because most ENFJs enjoy public speaking and seem to have a way with words, they are often asked to present the position of the groups to which they belong.

Some ENFJs report that at mid-life they seek situations for themselves where it is possible for them to turn inward. This often takes a structured form such as meditation, journaling, or in some cases even career changes.

In retirement, they are likely to want to settle geographically in an area where they have close personal relationships and/or close personal ties to a specific organization. The relationships and values that are imprtant to the ENFJ become even more so in their retirement. Many ENFJs participate in voluntary service work in retirement.



Learning

ENFJs learn best in structured situations in which they are able to talk bout the lesson and interact with their peers. Because they want their teachers to be pleased with them, they attempt to be model students. They are willing to do what is required in order to become personally recognized by their teachers. Because they take criticism personally, they can either be wounded by it or be willing to redouble their efforts in order to change the criticism. ENFJs enjoy classes that have subject matter relating to people, their needs, their aspirations, and their characterizations. Many ENFJs choose the liberal arts because it gives them an opportunity to more fully explore humanity.

ENFJs are good students when the subject matter relates to their strong relationship values and people orientation, and when the teacher is warm and personal. They apply the necessary effort and energy to complete the tasks that they start. ENFJs also like some independent learning and projects.



Working

ENFJs focused on the organization's ideals and operate within those ideals. They focus on how organizations should treat people and communicate these values to others. They enjoy leading and facilitating teams, and like to bring matters to mutually beneficial conclusions.

ENFJs prefer a work setting that contains individuals focused on changing things for the betterment of others. They like an environment that is people oriented, supportive, and organized. They do their best when there is a spirit of harmony, with encouragement given for self-expression. And they like their work to be settled and orderly, but not so much so that it is dull, quiet, unchanging, or unchallenging.

The ENFJ organizing style is to plan around the particular value or ideal and to supply the necessary energy toward its achievement or implementation. In the accomplishment of the goal, ENFJs will look at the people available and will assign tasks based on who needs the experience, the exposure, or the development. To a lesser degree, they will assign the task based on who needs the experience, the exposure, or the development. To a lesser degree, they will assign the task based purely on competency, because ENFJs feel it is more important to help others grow and develop new skills. If others have a particular deadline that needs to be met, the ENFJ will work to meet that deadline so that the other person will be happy.

ENFJs prefer occupations that reflect their ideals and that promote harmonious relationships with others. They tend to be attracted to occupation with a service orientation. They generally follow policies and procedures as long as those procedures are compatible with people's needs. They prefer things to be organized and decided rather than haphazard.

Some occupations seem to be more attractive to ENFJs: actor, clergy, consultant, counselor and therapist, designer, home economist, musician, religious worker, teacher, writer, and other occupations that allow them to be of service to others.



Leading

The ENFJ puts relationships and responsibilities before personal leisure. Their time can be imposed upon easily; however, they need to guard against excessive responsiveness to avoid reaching overload.

They particularly enjoy reading novels and seeing movies in order to see how the characters play out the life issues and questions presented in the story; it gives them an opportunity to see how others live and get along. They enjoy discussing their reading and may join book groups in order to do that. They like going to movies and plays with others and like to comment on the plot characterization. They are close observers of others' behavior.

Many ENFJs join religious or community-oriented groups whose focus is to work for better understanding between people. ENFJs like discussion and an opportunity to talk about values and philosophical topics. Many do not like activities in which there is a great deal of competition or in which someone or something could be hurt.



Loving

For the ENFJ, love means flowers, poetry, candlelight dinners --- in other words, romance with a capital R. When they first fall in love, they fall in love with an ideal perspective of what the relationship will be, and they fall deeply, head over heels. ENFJs value commitment and loyalty, and look for it from their partner. They typically enjoy activities with their partners that allow them to discuss the relationship and focus on what each person truly believes. When commitments are broken, ENFJs become upset because they see the breakup as a personal reflection on them and because they have idealized the relationship. Since they are willing to put the time and effort into the relationship, they expect it will continue on as it was from the very start. Relationships have their ups and downs; the downs, however, are particularly hard on the ENFJ, who does not manage disharmony well.

When scorned, ENFJs may be resentful, spiteful, and deeply hurt. Because they are acutely aware of emotional matters they take the breakup of a relationship especially hard. They are willing to discuss the ending of the relationship with only a few others because they feel a sense of blame and shame for the relationship not working out.


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ENFJ's are outstanding leaders of groups, both task groups and growth groups. They have the charming characteristic of seeming to take for granted that they will be followed, never doubting that people will want to do what they suggest. And, more often than not, people do, because this type has unusual charisma. ENFJ's place a high value on cooperation from others and are most willing to cooperate themselves.

Found in only 5 percent of the general population, ENFJ's place people as being of highest importance and priority. As a result, ENFJ's may find themselves feeling responsible for the feelings of others to an extent which places a burden on the relationship. An ENFJ communicates caring, concern, and a willingness to become involved. Thus people turn to ENFJ's for nurture and support, which an ENFJ is usually able to deliver. At times, however, these kinds of demands can overwhelm ENFJ's, who find at this point that they lack the skills to dissociate. ENFJ's do not seem able to turn away from these demands even when they become unreasonable. Or, if forced to let go of the burden through sheer unavailability of time or energy, ENFJ's experience a guilt all out of proportion to the realities of the commitment made to the relationship.

ENFJ's are especially vulnerable to idealizing interpersonal relationships, raising these relationships to a plane which seldom can sustain the realities of human nature. Because of this tendency to raise interpersonal relations to the ideal, ENFJ's may unwittingly overpower their friends, who believe that they cannot possibly live up to an ENFJ's perception of them. The fact is, ENFJ's are extraordinarily tolerant of others, seldom critical, and always trustworthy.

ENFJ's take communication for granted and believe that they are understood and that their communications are accepted. Just as they themselves are accepting, so do they assume that others are the same. When ENFJ's find that their position or beliefs were not comprehended or accepted, they are surprised, puzzled, and sometimes hurt. Fortunately, this does not happen with high frequency, as ENFJ's have a remarkable fluency with language, especially in speech; they are particularly adept when communicating face-to-face as opposed to communicating in writing. They are influential, therefore, in groups, having no hesitation about speaking out, no matter how large or small the group may be.

ENFJ's have an unusual ability to relate to others with empathy, taking into themselves the characteristics, emotions, and beliefs of others. This can pose a danger for ENFJ's because they can unconsciously over-identify with others and pick up their burdens as if they were their own. In the process, ENFJ's may risk their own sense of identity. They have a natural ability to mimic because of this highly developed ability to empathize by introjection. They are likely to be very concerned about the problems of those close to them, but they also may get as deeply involved in the problems of those not so close and may find themselves over-extended emotionally.

ENFJ's would do well to follow their hunches, for their intuition tends to be well developed. Decisions made purely on the basis of logic may not be so sound, and checking with a person who has a strong T preference might be at times advisable for the ENFJ. In the framework of values, however, the ENFJ is on certain ground. Generally, they know what they prefer and can read other people with outstanding accuracy. Seldom is an ENFJ wrong about the motivations or intent of another, hidden or not.



Career

This longing for the perfect carries over into the careers of ENFJ's, who experience some degree of restlessness whatever their jobs. And, as with ENFP's, ENFJ's have a wide range of occupations which offer success. Being verbally adept, ENFJ's contribute to an unusual level when dealing with people, particularly face-to-face; the media, the ministry, and the stage and screen are populated with successful ENFJ's. They make superior therapists, charismatic teachers, excellent executives, and personalized salespersons. Areas that would not permit utilization of the interactional talents of ENFJ's for example, accounting, should be avoided; otherwise, almost any people-to-people occupation where personal, sustained contact is involved capitalizes on the personality of an ENFJ.

ENFJ'S like to have things settled and organized. They prefer to plan both work and social engagements ahead and tend to be absolutely reliable in honoring these commitments. ENFJ's are very much at home in complex situations which require the juggling of much data. At the same time, they can handle people with charm and concern. ENFJ's are usually popular wherever they are. Their ability to be comfortable either leading or following makes them easy to have around, whatever the situation. A well-developed ENFJ group leader can provide, almost endlessly, activities for groups to engage in with almost no preplanning and can find adequate roles for members of the group to play. In some, this can amount to genius which other types find hard to emulate. In this ability to organize without planning there is a certain similarity to an ESFJ, but the latter acts more as a master of ceremonies than as a leader of groups. The ESFJ is more of a recreational leader, who insures that each member has fun at a party and that the right things are expressed at social occasions, especially institutional social occasions such as weddings, funerals parties, and the like. ENFJ's, just like the ESFJ's, value harmonious human relations above all else; but ENFJ's are not so easily crushed by indifference as are ESFJ's and are more independent of other's valuations.



Home

ENFJ's are socially adept and make excellent companions and mates. They also are deeply devoted to their children, yet tend not to be domineering to either the children or mate. In fact, the ENFJ is so even-tempered that he or she can be victimized by a mate who might have become more and more demanding.

ENFJ mates always try to please and feel personally responsible when home life does not go smoothly. They are tireless in their efforts to see that it does, providing generously from available income, time, and energy. This dedication often exists, however, side by side with an ENFJ's dream of the perfect relationship-a characteristic of all NF's, but one which is particularly strong in an ENFJ. Thus an ENFJ has that longing for the ideal that results in a vague dissatisfaction with whatever is in the way of relationships, mating as well as friendships.



Midlife

At midlife, ENFJ's might want to expand their capabilities toward introverted activities such as reading, gardening, painting. They also may want to increase their sensitivity to classical music, subtleties of fine foods and beverages, beginning to develop ever-increasing discriminations of fineness among fine things. Already likely to be a gourmet, an ENFJ might become a connoisseur art collector, for example, or an expert of medieval tapestries. Also, the development further of intellectual capabilities might interest ENFJ's at midlife, perhaps taking the direction of formal study. ENFJ's have the ability to appreciate both people and nature, and more time spent in travel might be gratifying, particularly if this was used as an opportunity to collect works of art.



Mates

Who can complement this growth-catalyst? The opposite on the S side is ISTP, the "artisan." It is not difficult to see how the teacher inherent in the ENFJ would want to "bring out" the craftsman in the ISTP. The artisan, however, has another side to his nature that pops up occasionally and in some cases is a life theme: adventure and exploration. The ISTP can, so to speak, be wayward, take off for parts unknown. It is difficult to imagine a similar desire on the part of the ENFJ to bring out adventuresomeness.

The ENFJ, on the intuitive side, finds the INTP attractive. Now here is a splendid target for our catalyst, for beneath the cool, collected, detached, and doubting exterior lies an architect of buildings, machines, tools, operations, tactics, languages, mathematics, or whatever can be designed. If, that is, this latently capable designer can be "activated" or "brought out".
 
Appreciative Yes
Congenial Yes
Diplomatic Yes
Energetic Sort of
Enthusiastic Sort of
Expressive Sort of/No
Idealistic Yes
Loyal Yes
Organized No
Personable Yes
Responsible Usually/Yes
Supportive Yes

They are people-oriented and social; are decisive; and seek responsiveness and order. They enjoy leading and facilitating teams, and encourage cooperation.

Pitfalls include:

--may idealize others and suffer from blind loyalty Sort of/Yes
--may sweep problems under the rug when in conflict Yes
--may take criticism personally and be overly self-critical No



Looks about right. Thanks, Dumpy.

Reading the rest now.
 
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What does wanting to gouge my eyes out instead of reading that crap make me?

Bored
Lazy
Offensive
Weird
Manic
Excited

Or

BLOWME
 
Oh, as to why I don't care for that bullshit.

I worked at SEH in Vancouver when I was in my early twenties. I worked with a bunch of illiterate 30 year olds that made 8 dollars an hour. I was forced to go to classes to help me understand why my coworkers couldn't understand simple instructions.

I needed to learn how to communicate with these people in a more effective manner.
 
Oh, as to why I don't care for that bullshit.

I worked at SEH in Vancouver when I was in my early twenties. I worked with a bunch of illiterate 30 year olds that made 8 dollars an hour. I was forced to go to classes to help me understand why my coworkers couldn't understand simple instructions.

I needed to learn how to communicate with these people in a more effective manner.

you are angry at the way you were requested to use this information, not at whether it was accurate or not. Everything has its place. If I had to interact eith a group of people, I wouldn't try to individually analyze each one of them, in part because you are faced with the problem of whether THEY want to interact with YOU. I'd use basic mediation techniques, that can help you get anyone to do anything.
 
you are angry at the way you were requested to use this information, not at whether it was accurate or not. Everything has its place. If I had to interact eith a group of people, I wouldn't try to individually analyze each one of them, in part because you are faced with the problem of whether THEY want to interact with YOU. I'd use basic mediation techniques, that can help you get anyone to do anything.

Read some of my posts and tell me how I fit into any of those groups.

Yes, I was angry that I was being taught to communicate by a guy who worked for Weyerhauser for 30 years who had no teaching credentials whatsoever.

A guy who made me take a nice textbook that I told him I wouldn't read and then after I wrote Columbine style things in it and threw it in the garbage after class (while pointing it out to him so he would find it) felt it necessary to take it to the company HR department.

This guy felt it a smart decision to fuck with a 20 something year old kid who stood a legit six foot two and weighed about 265 lbs after that kid told him to leave him alone. That kid looked like a shorter white Shaq. If I really gave two shits about that guy or that job somebody would have gotten hurt very very badly. I had no commited relationship at the time and felt like I could do 5 years in prison just for the fun of it.

When I got fired soon after, the company appealed my unemployment and failed to show up in person. The judge knew the people and asked them via the telephone why they had failed to show for the first time ever. I casually explained the misunderstanding between our parties while thinking to myself how afraid of me they were that they wouldn't even show up to the hearing.

The judge ruled in my favor as I knew he would.


Fast forward 10 years and I am the guy who pretends to "accidentally" smack you with something when you wander in front of me in a grocery store without watching where you are going.

I went to Home Depot last weekend and was carrying out some light fixtures at the same time as an illegal immigrant was wandering about in front of the exit while yapping on his cell phone for all to hear. Fucking guy looked right at me then walked right in front of me to lean on a cement filled pole. Whoops, accidentally smacked him with a 48 inch long flourescent light fixture. My bad. :lol:
 
Bodyman,

There's irony in the fact that you refused to read a textbook in order for you to help facilitate basic communication between you and other illiterate employees.

As to why this doesn't do it for you? I think it's because you fear finding out about yourself what everyone else can plainly see - your blatant sociopathy.
 
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Bodyman,

There's irony in the fact that you refused to read a textbook in order for you to help facilitate basic communication between you and other illiterate employees.

As to why this doesn't do it for you? I think it's because you fear finding out about yourself what everyone else can plainly see - your blatant sociopathy.


YEP, I told them I couldn't read.

Dexter ain't got shit on me.
 
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