Nate isn't the problem...

[Natebishop3]

We got the lead in the second quarter with Johnson, Matthews, Batum, Aldridge, and Camby. We got the lead with amazing defense and pushing the ball.

The starters tonight are the ones who slowed the ball down. They were the ones who went ice cold in the second half. I don't think it's Nate who slows our pace. I think it's Roy and Miller. Roy never pushes the ball. He never has. We were kicking the crap out of OKC when we ran on them. Too bad the starters don't do that.

 

[Nikolokolus]

In defense of Miller, I think he'd prefer the up-tempo game.

 

[RoyToy]

Roy should try not sleepwalking throughout the whole game and maybe try and break a sweat. I was watching him all night and there's barely any movement out of him on both sides of the ball.

 

[Natebishop3]

In defense of Miller, I think he'd prefer the up-tempo game.

I just don't think we can blame Nate for this. The first thing he talked about going into the 4th quarter was pushing the ball again and running. We've talked about this before, but I really think Roy is in control of the offense out there.

 

[Pinwheel1]

We had the ball last in regulation time with 8 seconds and Roy took a shitty shot. No excuse for taking a forced 3 pt shot in that situation. Brandon milked the clock and never got closer to the basket. He like everyone else needs to learn from stupid plays. Don't do it again.

 

[craigehlo]

The buck stops with Nate. The offense was isolations and Andre Miller jumpers at the end of regulation and into OT. Where's the pick and roll? Baseline screens?

 

[Tince]

Looked like we had the right gameplan tonight, but some terrible execution down the stretch.

Our lack of depth may have caused fatigue for players like Batum, and obviously limited out options by not having a guy like Rudy to put on the floor when we were down 3.

We were very close to putting them away a couple times, but didn't put our foots on their throats.

It's a long season and we'll grow from this loss.

 

[Natebishop3]

The buck stops with Nate. The offense was isolations and Andre Miller jumpers at the end of regulation and into OT. Where's the pick and roll? Baseline screens?

I don't buy it. The only thing you could fault him for was not putting in the second unit when the starters were stinking it up.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Roy played like garbage.

 

[Pinwheel1]

The buck stops with Nate. The offense was isolations and Andre Miller jumpers at the end of regulation and into OT. Where's the pick and roll? Baseline screens?

Same with OKC. They ran two plays. Westbrook just outworked everyone on the offensive boards. I don't get any coaches in OT. Most refuse to substitute until someone fouls out. Even when their players can't breath.

 

[RoyToy]

Looked like we had the right gameplan tonight, but some terrible execution down the stretch.

Our lack of depth may have caused fatigue for players like Batum, and obviously limited out options by not having a guy like Rudy to put on the floor when we were down 3.

We were very close to putting them away a couple times, but didn't put our foots on their throats.

It's a long season and we'll grow from this loss.

As long as Roy continues to look like this the Blazers have problems. It's almost like he hates the offense the team is running. I haven't seen a player continually half-ass his way around and setting screens like Roy did tonight. I'm pretty sure Miller noticed and said fuck this I'll have to create the offense.

 

[Tince]

Same with OKC. They ran two plays. Westbrook just outworked everyone on the offensive boards. I don't get any coaches in OT. Most refuse to substitute until someone fouls out. Even when their players can't breath.

Coaches want to win/lose with their best players on the floor and their best player making reads/decisions. It makes tons of sense to me, despite not working tonight.

 

[craigehlo]

I don't buy it. The only thing you could fault him for was not putting in the second unit when the starters were stinking it up.

We don't have any sort of offensive identity right now. I think that's a reflection on Nate. The fact that he has to continually search for the "hot hand" to bail the team out isn't effective coaching, it's grasping at straws.

 

[craigehlo]

Same with OKC. They ran two plays. Westbrook just outworked everyone on the offensive boards. I don't get any coaches in OT. Most refuse to substitute until someone fouls out. Even when their players can't breath.

OKC has better one-on-one players than us. I'm sure Nate would be a great coach for them. Unfortunately we have guys like Andre and LMA that instead of Westbrook and Durant.

 

[Tince]

As long as Roy continues to look like this the Blazers have problems. It's almost like he hates the offense the team is running. I haven't seen a player continually half-ass his way around and setting screens like Roy did tonight. I'm pretty sure Miller noticed and said fuck this I'll have to create the offense.

Might be a bit extreme, but I certainly would put the blame of tonight's loss on Roy over Nate. Having said that, Roy demands a ton of attention of the opposing teams best defender, that even on nights like tonight we're better with him than without him in my opinion.

 

[Tince]

OKC has better one-on-one players than us. I'm sure Nate would be a great coach for them. Unfortunately we have guys like Andre and LMA that instead of Westbrook and Durant.

Roy is one of the top 1:1 players in the league. He made a couple bad reads and we paid for it in a close loss. He makes one better read and we win the game. I like my chances on him taking care of the ball better and getting better shots down the road, but obviously we all wish it happened tonight.

 

[Pinwheel1]

OKC has better one-on-one players than us. I'm sure Nate would be a great coach for them. Unfortunately we have guys like Andre and LMA that instead of Westbrook and Durant.

Well they still played like shit when they went one on one. If it wasn't for the long rebounds from shooting bricks, their fans would be pissed like we are. They did not play well in OT. We just sucked.

 

[Natebishop3]

OKC has better one-on-one players than us. I'm sure Nate would be a great coach for them. Unfortunately we have guys like Andre and LMA that instead of Westbrook and Durant.

You might want to check the box score.

Andre Miller - 16 points, 11 assists
LaMarcus Aldridge - 22 points, 4 boards

It's not like those guys put up bad numbers offensively. Hell, Aldridge kept us in it during the first quarter. It was rebounding that cost us this game. Period. That's not on Nate.

 

[RoyToy]

Might be a bit extreme, but I certainly would put the blame of tonight's loss on Roy over Nate. Having said that, Roy demands a ton of attention of the opposing teams best defender, that even on nights like tonight we're better with him than without him in my opinion.

The team was struggling on offense and at no point did Roy try and takeover. Every offense stalls at some point yet the good teams in the league have the one guy that can bail them out and keep them rolling. Roy wanted no part of that tonight. 6 secs left in the shot clock and he'll be looking to pass when there's only 1 guy on him.

 

[craigehlo]

Roy is one of the top 1:1 players in the league.

The days of Roy being an elite scorer one-on-one seem to be in his rear-view mirror IMHO.

 

[Tince]

The days of Roy being an elite scorer one-on-one seem to be in his rear-view mirror IMHO.

Kobe Bryant disagrees with you.

So do I...

 

[Natebishop3]

Kobe Bryant disagrees with you.

So do I...

Well, regardless he won't be an All-Star this season unless he picks it up.

 

[OddEnormous]

Jesus Christ!!!!!

If I live to be 750 years old I will NEVER understand the way some of you worship this clown. What is the connection you people have with him?

What is going to be any different this year than his previous 10 years in this league?

Where is the evidence he's ever going to lead any team to anything or anywhere?

What has he EVER done as an NBA head coach?



Just admit to yourself it's NEVER going to happen with this guy.

Because it's not.

 

[Pinwheel1]

If we are comparing apple to apples...... I will take our PF over theirs. I will take our centers over theirs. I will take our SG over theirs (although he played like shit tonight) The difference is Their PG and SF. They win those two.

Tonight it was all Westbrook.

 

[Natebishop3]

Jesus Christ!!!!!

If I live to be 750 years old I will NEVER understand the way some of you worship this clown. What is the connection you people have with him?

What is going to be any different this year than his previous 10 years in this league?

Where is the evidence he's ever going to lead any team to anything or anywhere?

What has he EVER done as an NBA head coach?



Just admit to yourself it's NEVER going to happen with this guy.

Because it's not.

Every time I see that you've posted in a thread, I click on it knowing that it's going to be high quality, professional-grade, over-the-top hyperbole.

 

[Tince]

The team was struggling on offense and at no point did Roy try and takeover. Every offense stalls at some point yet the good teams in the league have the one guy that can bail them out and keep them rolling. Roy wanted no part of that tonight. 6 secs left in the shot clock and he'll be looking to pass when there's only 1 guy on him.

I think you're being too harsh on Roy. Obviously we should expect a lot out of our best player, and he let us down tonight. The last time we played OKC, Durant was a disaster in the 4th quarter, it happens to virtually everyone.

You cite him not wanting to take the last shot and forcing others to hit last second shots, but the last play of regulation was the exact opposite. He appeared to be at a point where he could've got by KD and got Batum a wide open 3pt, but forced a leaning double clutch deep 2.

We agree he was well below average tonight, but I guess we'll have to disagree that he hurts our team.

 

[Tince]

Well, regardless he won't be an All-Star this season unless he picks it up.

Agreed!

 

[OddEnormous]

Every time I see that you've posted in a thread, I click on it knowing that it's going to be high quality, professional-grade, over-the-top hyperbole.

"It's not Nate's fault, the team just doesn't do what he wants"


QUALITY!!!


10 years.

1 playoff series victory and you yourself indicate the team doesn't do what he asks.

Full steam ahead captain!!!!

hyperbole: not as easy as it looks

 

[RoyToy]

I think you're being too harsh on Roy. Obviously we should expect a lot out of our best player, and he let us down tonight. The last time we played OKC, Durant was a disaster in the 4th quarter, it happens to virtually everyone.

You cite him not wanting to take the last shot and forcing others to hit last second shots, but the last play of regulation was the exact opposite. He appeared to be at a point where he could've got by KD and got Batum a wide open 3pt, but forced a leaning double clutch deep 2.

We agree he was well below average tonight, but I guess we'll have to disagree that he hurts our team.

I don't remember saying he hurts the team but I do think he cost the team the game tonight(I know this sounds weird). People are saying he's not the same player because of injury but I see a guy that's looking to turn down a shot before he even dribbles. Idk if he's pissed about the offense and not getting the ball more like he wanted to but it needs to be figured out.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Durant cost OKC two games in a row. Flat out lost it for them. Tonight was Roy's turn. He is the star and he did not do what he is expected to do. FINISH. Long season