NBA has become a joke

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RR7 said:
It never ceases to amaze me how many people can't stand the NBA, but then not only follow it, but follow it more rabidly than most any other fans by conversing on message boards with other fans. Only to complain about it. What sort of masochist shit is that? Sports are entertainment. I wouldn't watch a shitty television series over and over, and go online to talk about the series with other people, complaining about how bad of a series it is, how terrible the genre is, how much the actors suck, etc. If your entertainment has stopped entertaining you, find something else. Life is too short.
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Haha great point.
 
RR7 said:
It never ceases to amaze me how many people can't stand the NBA, but then not only follow it, but follow it more rabidly than most any other fans by conversing on message boards with other fans. Only to complain about it. What sort of masochist shit is that? Sports are entertainment. I wouldn't watch a shitty television series over and over, and go online to talk about the series with other people, complaining about how bad of a series it is, how terrible the genre is, how much the actors suck, etc. If your entertainment has stopped entertaining you, find something else. Life is too short.
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Except to a lot of people it isn't just pure entertainment and you know that full well. As much as I might love an actor, there is not the same emotional attachment that sports brings, that's the positive and negative of being a 'FANatic'! This is why sports is different from any other form of entertainment and why it is so loved, even if frustrating.
 
BigGameDamian said:
To solve the tanking issue for non playoff teams the teams only. The team with the best record out of the last 20 games wins the first round pick and have it trickle down from there. So no more ping pong bullshit. You will have to play to win the the better pick in the draft
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So the plan then would be to tank early and save your energy for the last twenty?
 
bigbailes said:
Or as someone else mentioned ... go to the wheel format that was talked about a few years ago where every team in a 30 year cycle would have all 30 picks ... that's a pretty easy way to stop tanking.
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I still like the auction picks or salary cap type of ideas the best. But wheel is probably second.

Tanking can help rebuild. We've seen examples of teams contend with it. Tanking can also result in long term losing culture that is difficult to rise above. We've seen examples of that too.

The nature of the 5 person NBA just means very few teams can contend unlike sports such as baseball and football. There is a need to give the noncontending teams something of interest or to build for. I'd welcome a solution that didn't have such a pure benefit to losing games.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
I still like the auction picks or salary cap type of ideas the best. But wheel is probably second.

Tanking can help rebuild. We've seen examples of teams contend with it. Tanking can also result in long term losing culture that is difficult to rise above. We've seen examples of that too.

The nature of the 5 person NBA just means very few teams can contend unlike sports such as baseball and football. There is a need to give the noncontending teams something of interest or to build for. I'd welcome a solution that didn't have such a pure benefit to losing games.
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Yea I mean the wheel has very big downsides and is a ton of luck but at least it's a thinking outside the box kind of idea. Agreed on the 5 person nature of the sport making it tough for there to actually be decent competition. People are applauding this season as being maybe the most unpredictable of the last 40 years, with 8-10 teams having a realistic shot at winning it all, that says something about the competitive nature of it all.
 
bigbailes said:
Except to a lot of people it isn't just pure entertainment and you know that full well. As much as I might love an actor, there is not the same emotional attachment that sports brings, that's the positive and negative of being a 'FANatic'! This is why sports is different from any other form of entertainment and why it is so loved, even if frustrating.
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For YOU, maybe. But not to other fanatics of other genres of entertainment. Look at Trekkies, Star Wars fans, etc. They clearly have an emotional attachment to their form of entertainment. There's people on this site who have been nothing but negative the entire like 14 years I've been on here. Anything positive said is almost always done as kind of a backhanded compliment, or comes with a...however. I feel like if I was passionate about something, and in 14 years, seemingly never got joy out of it, I'd stop myself from continuing. There's other sports. There's other forms of entertainment. There's other hobbies to partake in that I would hope might give someone joy. But I think some people just like to be miserable, or live their life being negative all the time, and finding ways to be negative consistently. Like I said, life's too short.
 
RR7 said:
It never ceases to amaze me how many people can't stand the NBA, but then not only follow it, but follow it more rabidly than most any other fans by conversing on message boards with other fans. Only to complain about it. What sort of masochist shit is that? Sports are entertainment. I wouldn't watch a shitty television series over and over, and go online to talk about the series with other people, complaining about how bad of a series it is, how terrible the genre is, how much the actors suck, etc. If your entertainment has stopped entertaining you, find something else. Life is too short.
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This guy gets it.
 
RR7 said:
Look at Trekkies, Star Wars fans, etc. They clearly have an emotional attachment to their form of entertainment.
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Exactly. There were major fans of the Dark Tower series books and when the movie came out, they were pissed/ticked/devastated/angry that Roland was a black guy. Yet they watched it and went on and on on all the fan sites about how much bullshit that was. They'll watch another one if it was realeased......and likely complain about it. Sports fans more dedicated? Lol.....I've seen Star Wars fans camp out for a freaking week to see a movie opening....on concrete!
 
BassPlaya said:
Exactly. There were major fans of the Dark Tower series books and when the movie came out, they were pissed/ticked/devastated/angry that Roland was a black guy. Yet they watched it and went on and on on all the fan sites about how much bullshit that was. They'll watch another one if it was realeased......and likely complain about it. Sports fans more dedicated? Lol.....I've seen Star Wars fans camp out for a freaking week to see a movie opening....on concrete!
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I do think that fanaticism of the other areas of interest that you are referencing are far more niche than sports fanatics. Is that fair to say?
 
its sad but its our MO really, middle of the pack - in perpetuity. we cant seem to get any notable needle moving free agents to come here, nor seem to be viable partners for key trades in most cases. We occasionally hit nice in a draft and get a gem player, but we invariably get stuck in the perpetual loop immediately after.

the grizz, kings, okc, atlanta etc all went thru some very low times and rebuilt well, our reluctance to actually rebuild in totality means we are one foot in, one foot out on that process - leaving us where? in the middle.
 
THE HCP said:
I have a feeling only the fans of teams that suck think the league is a joke?
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This is 100% correct. This is a thread based completely on bitterness. Does anyone in here think that Warriors fans think that the league is a joke? Does anyone in here think that Lakers fans think that the league is a joke? Maybe it's a joke to have teams in small markets. I don't think it is but I think it's pretty fucking funny that so many on here think that things should be fair for us or that the league should go to further lengths than they already do to make things fair for us.

The NBA hasn't ever been a joke and it definitely hasn't become a joke. If you're not a fan of basketball at the highest level it has ever been played at, then go do something else.
 
BassPlaya said:
Exactly. There were major fans of the Dark Tower series books and when the movie came out, they were pissed/ticked/devastated/angry that Roland was a black guy. Yet they watched it and went on and on on all the fan sites about how much bullshit that was. They'll watch another one if it was realeased......and likely complain about it. Sports fans more dedicated? Lol.....I've seen Star Wars fans camp out for a freaking week to see a movie opening....on concrete!
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The camping out for a week was two decades ago ... that stuff is so few and far between now. Yes those people are fanatics for sure, but when is the last time you saw millions of people come out for a celebration over a movie like a championship parade? Sports is a totally different beast when it comes to fanaticism. I agree some take it way too seriously and are always mad, if it brings you zero joy, than yes they should probably move on. My guess is a lot of people that you find to be constantly negative on here find joy in annoying those of you that are always positive, as sick as that may be.
 
HailBlazers said:
And I only people who work for the league don't.
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I don't work for the league. I certainly don't think it sucks. The way fans view the game and what they "deserve" as a fan, has changed drastically. If there is a thing about the league I am really disappointed in, it's the way the games are called. Taking three steps is not called travelling. Also, holding the ball like a football while guys hack at your arms is also not basketball. That said, the Blazers a group of good people. They play hard, and I root for them.
 
Just be up front with the kids. They’ll thank you later.

Sugar coating shit does no favors long term.
 
Nobody’s really talking about the soft load management bullshit that we have going on in the NBA. We saw Embiid ducking Joker and I hope he gets penalized in the MVP race selection for it.
 
BassPlaya said:
I don't work for the league. I certainly don't think it sucks. The way fans view the game and what they "deserve" as a fan, has changed drastically. If there is a thing about the league I am really disappointed in, it's the way the games are called. Taking three steps is not called travelling. Also, holding the ball like a football while guys hack at your arms is also not basketball. That said, the Blazers a group of good people. They play hard, and I root for them.
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I think we agree. The players nowadays are amazing. The product inconsistency sucks.
 
blazerkor said:
This is 100% correct. This is a thread based completely on bitterness. Does anyone in here think that Warriors fans think that the league is a joke? Does anyone in here think that Lakers fans think that the league is a joke? Maybe it's a joke to have teams in small markets. I don't think it is but I think it's pretty fucking funny that so many on here think that things should be fair for us or that the league should go to further lengths than they already do to make things fair for us.

The NBA hasn't ever been a joke and it definitely hasn't become a joke. If you're not a fan of basketball at the highest level it has ever been played at, then go do something else.
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You sir/ma’am are correct!
 
RR7 said:
For YOU, maybe. But not to other fanatics of other genres of entertainment. Look at Trekkies, Star Wars fans, etc. They clearly have an emotional attachment to their form of entertainment. There's people on this site who have been nothing but negative the entire like 14 years I've been on here. Anything positive said is almost always done as kind of a backhanded compliment, or comes with a...however. I feel like if I was passionate about something, and in 14 years, seemingly never got joy out of it, I'd stop myself from continuing. There's other sports. There's other forms of entertainment. There's other hobbies to partake in that I would hope might give someone joy. But I think some people just like to be miserable, or live their life being negative all the time, and finding ways to be negative consistently. Like I said, life's too short.
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Good post.

I often wonder why I follow and root for the Blazers so hard. The losses and disappointment bring me down more than the wins bring me up. I became a fan when the Drexler teams went to the finals as a kid then loved the trader Bob era in high school.

Maybe it's like what I imagine a heroine addiction is like where I'm chasing that first high the rest of my life.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Good post.

I often wonder why I follow and root for the Blazers so hard. The losses and disappointment bring me down more than the wins bring me up. I became a fan when the Drexler teams went to the finals as a kid then loved the trader Bob era in high school.

Maybe it's like what I imagine a heroine addiction is like where I'm chasing that first high the rest of my life.
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That's a really cynical way of looking at loyalty but I get it. I was explaining to someone that my happiest moment as a sports fan was when we won the draft lotto but it pretty quickly turned into the shit show that was Greg Oden's injuries strung together for what some would call a professional basketball career. It made me cringe to see the "One Shining Moment" ads this year with GO in them.

I swear that if we land the number one spot in this draft that it will be the best I've felt as a sports fan since that soon to be disaster. At least this year there won't be a honk once or twice... it's the Wemby show unless his physical shows some kind of sure fire injury problem that's more obvious than the fact that when you look at him standing still it seems like a strong enough wind would snap the kid in two. The funny thing is unlike most of the skinny seven footers, when Wemby is moving that's when he looks like he isn't very breakable at all. Dude moves better than most guys a foot shorter.

Who am I kidding, we're not getting Wemby... I mean we will probably have no less than half the chance that the three teams with the worst records will but even they only have a 14% chance. Second spectrum would not advise taking that shot.
 
Always a chance. The Blazers, at least, tried to win this year. But injuries reared their ugly head again. The Tank started late. Not like San Antonio & Houston. Detroit had the injury to Cade Cunningham that upended them. So this year i feel like the chances for Wemby are pretty good. It's a vibe thing. Plus, on the medical front, these teams have better medical staffs now. The scrutiny is higher than ever. I don't think Oden having a leg longer (Not that one HaHa) than the other gets by now. Or Bowie fibbing that his leg was fine.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
The losses and disappointment bring me down more than the wins bring me up..
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a few years ago there was a substantial study by several business schools and psychology schools like NYU and Harvard on the emotional parts of the stock market and investing

they put in gauges and controls so they could try to measure the intensity of emotions related to gains and losses. IIRC their conclusions were that investors' emotional reactions to actual financial losses were about 2 times more intense than to financial gains. They also concluded that the misery from those losses lasted much longer than the euphoria from the gains

I believe this is probably true for sports too. Unless maybe your teams wins it all. I watched the Blazers win the Championship in 1977 (on TV), and that's still the highlight of my Blazer fandom. But I sure do remember those huge losses too. The 4th Q collapse against the Lakers in 2000 still stings....a lot
 
As far as the OP, i dont think the NBA has become a joke.

But our franchise certainly has.
 
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