New New Coach poll

[Rastapopoulos]

I'm limiting the options here to what I think are the three main contenders. I think 90% of us would pick Erik Spoelstra as coach-and-GM over all three, but I'm also pretty sure that ain't happening, so pick which of these three you would dislike the least. (And to all of those of you who say "I don't want ANY of them!" then here's the secret: don't vote!)

 

[illmatic99]

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/new-coach-poll.366613/

 

[Hoopguru]

I'll go with Billups because he's was one of the most respected and still is, people in the association. He's D Wade & G Hill caliber that knows the game well and players like his balance.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Should have stuck with Stotts if these are your options... Change for the sake of change isn't good.

But really, we should have had somebody in place to replace Stotts for years, and let Stotts go once that person was ready to take over.

 

[TBpup]

I like Billups the best but if it is for right away for the last couple years of Dame's prime, of those 3 I voted MDA. I think Billups could grow into a good coach.....but would that happen fast enough given the short window?

 

[MickZagger]

Should have stuck with Stotts if these are your options... Change for the sake of change isn't good.

But really, we should have had somebody in place to replace Stotts for years, and let Stotts go once that person was ready to take over.

Ugh. Any kind of new ideas is better than Stotts

 

[brooklynballer]

[...] has been lauded for his work helping Clippers All-Star Paul George become a better distributor en route to a career-high 5.2 assists per game.

“As far as being a coach, just his poise, I think he relates to the players. Him being able to communicate and being able to teach PG at the point guard position how to make plays, what he’s looking for in different situations, and he’s been working with PG all year.“

“And now just seeing him on the floor coaching a five-on-five game, steadily improved and he’s done a great job. Just his poise, he’s able to hold guys accountable and the things he’s done for PG this year has been great reading pick-and-roll situations...”

“He’s been a big influence on my game, and he’s been just a great fit and a champion, great person to talk to and have as a resource,” George said.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/story/2021-06-13/clippers-assistant-chauncey-billups-destined-to-be-head-coach?_amp=true

I get the sense Billups has a fair level of respect from the LAC players. The fact that he holds players accountable will be a bonus for a team who hasn’t had that attribute in their coach in the past nine seasons.

Hammon is a dark horse but after what @calvin natt pointed out about her work ethic, I’ve cooled on the prospect of having her coach the team. Too risky in my opinion.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Remember, Hammon is the only one who's coached an NBA team to a championship already...

 

[Jon]

can I go with none of the above? reason is, I don't think a rookie head coach would be good for an already established playoff team. and D'Antoni is literally Stotts but older.

 

[jlprk]

I want a non-rookie head coach, so I'll choose Mike D. He's Stotts without the constant Butterfingers nagging errors and stupid shots. Which make us lose. Plus he's a little better in defense than Stotts, but who isn't.

I prefer the former poll, with all the options the Blazers are considering. It's not down to these 3.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I voted Hammon

 

[Natebishop3]

I voted Hammon

Me too.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Team Ime!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Team Ime!

How selfish is a guy who has I AND me in his name?

And altering somebody's poll is Moderator Abuse! Make your own fucking poll

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Kind of startling how little being accused of rape affects one's job prospects.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Kind of seems like the poll is missing a few possibilities?

 

[Jayblaze]

I didn't vote since my name wasn't up their

 

[crandc]

Me too.

Me three

 

[Voodoo]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/story/2021-06-13/clippers-assistant-chauncey-billups-destined-to-be-head-coach?_amp=true

I get the sense Billups has a fair level of respect from the LAC players. The fact that he holds players accountable will be a bonus for a team who hasn’t had that attribute in their coach in the past nine seasons.

Hammon is a dark horse but after what @calvin natt pointed out about her work ethic, I’ve cooled on the prospect of having her coach the team. Too risky in my opinion.

I missed the thing about Beckys work ethic, can you link or quote it?

 

[wizenheimer]

I missed the thing about Beckys work ethic, can you link or quote it?

it wasn't just her work ethic that was trashed. It was her competence, character, and integrity that were trashed from behind a couple of layers of anonymous sources

* she is lazy and has a bad work ethic
* the players tune her out
* she's a laughing-stock in the Spurs organization

which all begs the question if she's that fucking bad and undeserving of a job, why would a model organization like the Spurs keep her employed for 7 years?

well, the source had an easy answer for that:

* the Spurs, Buford & Popovich, are afraid to fire her because she's a woman

so, the character assassination was tied up with a convenient pink bow

maybe it's all true, I don't know. But the combo of the harsh things said, the notion that the Spurs wouldn't get rid of a coach that bad, and the timing of the mud-slinging do make the 'charges' seem like agenda and back-stabbing, which in turn, at least for me, makes it hard to find credible

 

[Phatguysrule]

it wasn't just her work ethic that was trashed. It was her competence, character, and integrity that were trashed from behind a couple of layers of anonymous sources

* she is lazy and has a bad work ethic
* the players tune her out
* she's a laughing-stock in the Spurs organization

which all begs the question if she's that fucking bad and undeserving of a job, why would a model organization like the Spurs keep her employed for 7 years?

well, the source had an easy answer for that:

* the Spurs, Buford & Popovich, are afraid to fire her because she's a woman

so, the character assassination was tied up with a convenient pink bow

maybe it's all true, I don't know. But the combo of the harsh things said, the notion that the Spurs wouldn't get rid of a coach that bad, and the timing of the mud-slinging do make the 'charges' seem like agenda and back-stabbing, which in turn, at least for me, makes it hard to find credible

I don't think those things are that bad for an assistant coach.

I can see Pop (as such an ardent supporter of women's and minority equality) and the organization thinking it's more valuable being tied to furthering that cause by helping her get a step up as opposed to being tied to firing her.

There isn't much downside to having her there as an assistant when you have such a great system in place for so long.

It doesn't really become a problem unless you're talking about having her run the daily basketball strategy of an organization looking to make a big push in the last few productive years of the best player in franchise history.

That could be a big problem.

However, if she can take over a team which doesn't need a great coach or is possibly ready to compete (Tyrone Lue?) it could turn out well for everyone involved.

 

[Natebishop3]

* she is lazy and has a bad work ethic
* the players tune her out
* she's a laughing-stock in the Spurs organization

I don't think those things are that bad for an assistant coach.

So you're saying there's a chance I could become an assistant coach in the NBA?

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

So you're saying there's a chance I could become an assistant coach in the NBA?

So……………………what did you do to piss the Spurs organization off?

 

[Phatguysrule]

So you're saying there's a chance I could become an assistant coach in the NBA?

Yeah, I don't know how much a sex change operation costs, but I think if you could get it done and dominate the WNBA for a decade or so the odds are pretty good...

 

[Voodoo]

it wasn't just her work ethic that was trashed. It was her competence, character, and integrity that were trashed from behind a couple of layers of anonymous sources

* she is lazy and has a bad work ethic
* the players tune her out
* she's a laughing-stock in the Spurs organization

which all begs the question if she's that fucking bad and undeserving of a job, why would a model organization like the Spurs keep her employed for 7 years?

well, the source had an easy answer for that:

* the Spurs, Buford & Popovich, are afraid to fire her because she's a woman

so, the character assassination was tied up with a convenient pink bow

maybe it's all true, I don't know. But the combo of the harsh things said, the notion that the Spurs wouldn't get rid of a coach that bad, and the timing of the mud-slinging do make the 'charges' seem like agenda and back-stabbing, which in turn, at least for me, makes it hard to find credible

Makes sense, thanks for the write up. I would be happy with most any of the options listed above, including Hammon.

 

[wizenheimer]

Makes sense, thanks for the write up. I would be happy with most any of the options listed above, including Hammon.

it was a poster here who said this stuff and he was repeating what somebody connected to the Spurs said. I have no reason to doubt the poster's credibility. I'm assuming he just reported what he was told

but what was said was very harsh, and the timing pretty suspect suspect. So, coupled with the fact you'd have to believe the Spurs are afraid to fire a really bad coach and have kept the rot in their team for 7 years because of that fear, I just found it hard to believe

 

[Natebishop3]

So……………………what did you do to piss the Spurs organization off?

I'm lazy.... horrible work ethic... I'm sure the players would definitely tune me out and I think with time I could definitely be the laughing stock of the Spurs organization.

 

[Voodoo]

it was a poster here who said this stuff and he was repeating what somebody connected to the Spurs said. I have no reason to doubt the poster's credibility. I'm assuming he just reported what he was told

but what was said was very harsh, and the timing pretty suspect suspect. So, coupled with the fact you'd have to believe the Spurs are afraid to fire a really bad coach and have kept the rot in their team for 7 years because of that fear, I just found it hard to believe

Agreed, I dont get the sense that pop is the kind of guy that is worried about what others think of him or his decisions.

 

[JoshuaHall]

To be fair, I believe it was stated that she “had become lazy”. Insinuating that she was not always that way.

Maybe because she feels she is due for a promotion.
Who knows.

I do find myself highly skeptical of the critique though.

I see no reason why his source would lie; but I also see no reason why the Spurs would put up with that behavior.

 

[blazerkor]

To be fair, I believe it was stated that she “had become lazy”. Insinuating that she was not always that way.

Maybe because she feels she is due for a promotion.
Who knows.

I do find myself highly skeptical of the critique though.

I see no reason why his source would lie; but I also see no reason why the Spurs would put up with that behavior.

The sources @calvin natt has might have just been bitter about all of the buzz about Hammon being the best candidate out there right after they had an extremely disappointing season and they felt she was part of the problem instead of the solution. So they may have been fixated on anything negative they had on their minds about her. The critique doesn't have to be correct to exist.