New Video of Oden

[Hype #9]

How do you think his running left hook looks?

 

[hasoos]

Its a good power move. The dribble is a little bit long though. But at least when he ends the dribble, the ball is up high where the little guys can't get it.

 

[RoyIsClutch07]

How do you think his running left hook looks?

Looks better than it did last year.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

i wanna some see full speed ones

 

[Mediocre Man]

What I saw

Bay-Rex got himself a jumper.

Travis is still a chucker

Oden looks more mobile, and not as mechanical.

 

[illmatic99]

Ben from BlazersEdge has more extensive video:

[video=youtube;75mznVNLIgM]

 

[illmatic99]

Scrimmage from B-Edge:

[video=youtube;h2bN5XgQ3mU]

 

[Natebishop3]

Scrimmage from B-Edge:

Pretty much the only thing that stood to me in that video was that Travis still doesn't pass the ball. He has to be one of the biggest ball hogs in the NBA.

 

[illmatic99]

Pretty much the only thing that stood to me in that video was that Travis still doesn't pass the ball. He has to be one of the biggest ball hogs in the NBA.

And he's still lost on D when he has to rotate.

 

[PapaG]

Outlaw as the scapegoat. Rinse. Wash. Repeat.

 

[Natebishop3]

Outlaw as the scapegoat. Rinse. Wash. Repeat.

Watch the video and tell me you don't see the same thing. The guy never passes. I saw the same thing last season. Once the ball gets in his hands, the only way it's leaving is as a shot attempt.

 

[Haakzilla]

Outlaw as the scapegoat. Rinse. Wash. Repeat.

TO must GO, just like zBO!!!

 

[Mediocre Man]

TO must GO, just like zBO!!!

No way, gettig rid of Z-Bo killed this team. I mean look at them now?

 

[HailBlazers]

i wanna some see full speed ones

And I wanna see the Blazers win an NBA Title, But your just gonna have to wait. .

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Watch the video and tell me you don't see the same thing. The guy never passes. I saw the same thing last season. Once the ball gets in his hands, the only way it's leaving is as a shot attempt.

He had the ball less than most people.. and I'm not gonna go back and count but I only remember him taking 2 shots. I distinctly remember him passing the ball into Greg from the wing.

 

[Natebishop3]

He had the ball less than most people.. and I'm not gonna go back and count but I only remember him taking 2 shots. I distinctly remember him passing the ball into Greg from the wing.

I saw at least four shots in that video.

 

[STOMP]

Watch the video and tell me you don't see the same thing. The guy never passes. I saw the same thing last season. Once the ball gets in his hands, the only way it's leaving is as a shot attempt.

I don't. He got the rebound, brought the ball up and made an entry pass into Oden at about the 2:50 mark. In this short bit we saw him go 0-2... conversely we saw your boy Webster go 1-3 in that same short clip and he really didn't pass once.

Funny how that works.

STOMP

 

[mgb]

If Oden is out of position on the pick he needs to just let it go not throw his hip out in a attempt to set the pick or he's just going to get called for a foul every time. I didn't see him score anything except for a couple put backs. That's pretty much like last year. He does look a in a lot better shape. Joel though got more looks at the basket scoring on each on put backs of his shots.

I'm impress with Martell. Twice in the two scrimmages he was out on the fast break getting a lay up converting on one and I think being fouled on the other.

 

[Paxil]

Oden fakes a faceup shot even though he has never shot one in a game. =)

 

[Shooter]

Oden's little hook shot looks good, but it's easy when the guy guarding you is a foot shorter.

That said, I'm hoping Oden uses a few more offensive moves this year. I think if he became a scoring threat, it would only make things easier for Roy and Aldridge.

 

[BBert]

Clearly it's not possible to extrapolate anything from this small sample size, of an early practice.

In fairness, Martell was fouled on his first shot -- so it doesn't count as an attemp. The shot he made was silk.

I saw Travis make the entry pass. I also saw him make a bunch of spins and fakes while his teammates were yelling and begging for the ball, then he shot and missed a bad turn-around.

It's hard to tell on this little window I'm viewing, but it looked like Bayless was shooting well and moving the ball well. At least I think it was Bayless.

I'm such a Blazers junkie. Thanks for the fix.

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't. He got the rebound, brought the ball up and made an entry pass into Oden at about the 2:50 mark. In this short bit we saw him go 0-2... conversely we saw your boy Webster go 1-3 in that same short clip and he really didn't pass once.

Funny how that works.

STOMP

I don't see how Webster is my boy. If anything, I've been screaming for an upgrade at small forward since the trade deadline last season.

Maybe I thought Webster was Outlaw a couple times because of the quality of film and the fact that they are both wearing numbers in the 20's. I'll go back and watch again.

edited - yeah, a couple of the shots were webster (including the make). Sorry, I guess I'm not used to Web wearing 23, and considering they both have similar hair, I made the mistake. My bad.

 

[BlazersBlood]

Oden fakes a faceup shot even though he has never shot one in a game. =)

LOL. I was thinking the same thing. He's gonna have to make that shot before the pump will be effective.

 

[STOMP]

I don't see how Webster is my boy.

Consistently backing him despite at least as questionable of a resume has created that impression for this reader. In this particular case your criticism (of an All NBA ball hog) was yet again leveed on the forward who both took less shots and didn't shoot every single time he touched the ball (like the guy you back did). Exaggerating the amount of shots Travis took and overlooking that he indeed did pass the ball... can you see how the reader might sense a bias?

STOMP

 

[Blazer_Hippie]

4:40 got my heart in my throat....

 

[maxiep]

I'm still worried about Oden's release point, not to mention his handles as he moves across the lane. If I'm opposing him, I bring someone to double down and either strip the ball or block the shot from behind.

He needs to learn to keep his dribble lower and bring the ball up and release it much higher. If he does that, it's an unstoppable shot.

 

[Natebishop3]

Consistently backing him despite at least as questionable of a resume has created that impression for this reader. In this particular case your criticism (of an All NBA ball hog) was yet again leveed on the forward who both took less shots and didn't shoot every single time he touched the ball (like the guy you back did). Exaggerating the amount of shots Travis took and overlooking that he indeed did pass the ball... can you see how the reader might sense a bias?

STOMP

And I just told you, the two guys look almost exactly the same in that video because

A) They have numbers in the 20's

B) They both had similar hair in the video

C) The video is at an angle that there were at least a couple shots in which I only got to see the number "2" on a uniform.

Regardless, I cut Webster slack because he missed the entire season last year and I'm hoping he has improved on his game. Outlaw is what he is. A shooter. The team has begged him to rebound more. He hasn't. They've wanted him to attack the rim more. He hasn't. Travis likes to take mid-range jumpers and threes. That's his game. He's been in the league long enough now, I think we can pretty much determine what he is and what he is not. Webster still has some potential left untapped.

Regardless, I haven't been thrilled with either player over the past few seasons.

 

[mgb]

Outlaw did look like he was making a effort to get rebounds last nite at the fanfest.

 

[andalusian]

Outlaw did look like he was making a effort to get rebounds last nite at the fanfest.

Yes he did. He also scored a bunch while being pretty much invisible in the game. That's a very good sign, imho - he can score effortlessly at this level - which is always a sign of a very good scorer.

I have a feeling he is ready for a monster year...

 

[STOMP]

And I just told you, the two guys look almost exactly the same in that video because

A) They have numbers in the 20's

B) They both had similar hair in the video

C) The video is at an angle that there were at least a couple shots in which I only got to see the number "2" on a uniform.

right, I read all that in your previous post. In addition you also asked the question how you've created the impression that Martell is your guy... which is what my last post addressed. I can recall your articles on Travis and Martell back when you wrote for Hoopsworld and which of the two you viewed as a project and which was ready for greatness. You've cut the same guy a lot of slack ever since.

Regardless, I cut Webster slack because he missed the entire season last year and I'm hoping he has improved on his game. Outlaw is what he is. A shooter. The team has begged him to rebound more. He hasn't. They've wanted him to attack the rim more. He hasn't. Travis likes to take mid-range jumpers and threes. That's his game. He's been in the league long enough now, I think we can pretty much determine what he is and what he is not. Webster still has some potential left untapped.

why? Since he joined the league Martell has rebounded and attacked the rim a lot less then Travis. Criticizing Travis for shooting jumpers while cutting Martell slack is just weird. Last year Travis shot more 3's then ever before and they accounted for 28% of his attempts... Martell has made the 3 ball 50% of his shots throughout his career. Thus far Martell's game defines one dimensional. Of the two the guy who's game has evolved is Travis.

Regardless, I haven't been thrilled with either player over the past few seasons.

me either, but I judge a player by their performance rather then by my hopes.

STOMP