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I really don't see Beltre coming here (though I wouldn't mind) because as much as it sickens me I think we'll see A-Rod at 3rd base next year. As far as Hamels, he's young but I'm not so sure he's worth 22M over the next 4 years. JMO.
 
...oh, I doubt we'll see either Hamels or Beltre...but it's nice to dream. Of the 2, Beltre's contract would be the easiest to stomach.
 
Dont see the Hamel's being available. Lee, yes if he's healthy to move. Beltre, no idea. There has to be more options.
 
The Phillies have been discouraged by what they’re hearing from other teams on Cole Hamels. The Phillies consider him their biggest trade chip, but will hold on to him if they don’t get what they consider a fair deal. The Red Sox sent their top pitching scout to watch the hurler before the break and the Phillies have scouted Boston’s major and minor league teams all season. One major league source said if the Phillies get a taker on the full contract and they get three top prospects, he’s gone, and Hamels, according to another major league source, wouldn’t mind.

3 top prospects? really?
 
By Brad Johnson [July 19, 2014 at 8:42pm CDT]
The Phillies are supposed to be one of the major sellers in this season’s trade market. The club has declined steadily in recent years. They currently sit in the cellar of the NL East with a 42-54 record. The decision makers in Philadelphia have talked about trying to climb back into the race, but it’s probably too late to escape the inevitable – the glory days have passed.

Despite a poor record, the team possesses plenty of veteran talent to sell as mercenaries to the highest bidder. Cliff Lee returns from the disabled list on Monday. A.J. Burnett may be headed to the Orioles. Cole Hamels is perhaps too valuable to trade – just in case a rebuild goes faster than expected. Jonathan Papelbon wants to play for a competitor, but Chase Utley and Jimmy Rollins prefer to exercise their 10-and-5 rights to remain in Philadelphia. Carlos Ruiz is recovering from a concussion. Marlon Byrd can block trades to four teams, one of which is the team that wants him. Those are just the most notable names among a plethora on offer.

As outside observers, we’re trained to look at this situation through a very simplistic lens. A bad team is supposed to trade it’s veterans for young players. A good theory, but it’s not always easy to put into practice. As we discussed earlier tonight, a guy like Lee might be hard to trade given his recent injury and contract status. The Phillies have to decide if a prospect package is worth more than Lee in a Philadelphia uniform. Even though the club isn’t competitive in the general sense, they’re still playing for a slice of their fans’ attention. Ratings and attendance will be better with Lee (and Hamels) on the roster.

With the exception of Hamels, none of the Phillies assets appear capable of returning the Grade-A type prospects needed for a quick turnaround. Mostly, they’ll have to acquire upside plays – guys who have potential, but haven’t yet actualized their skills. The front office has an iffy track record with such players; see the returns from Lee and Hunter Pence as examples.

Most of the veterans will still be Philadelphia property in the offseason, so the club isn’t under extreme pressure to make a deal. Their players will only be depreciated another half season. In some cases, a shorter contract could help their trade value. It’s probably a bad idea to play it fast and loose with players over 30, but it might be necessary if the right return isn’t out there.

Ultimately, trade talks are an issue of supply and demand. If those factors align, the Phillies will probably make at least one trade. If not, they may choose to stand pat, if only so some fans will continue to watch their few remaining stars. So…

Interesting....?
 
3 top prospects? really?

...so Philly wants the Sox to pick up his salary AND give them 3 top prospects?...not gonna happen. Hell, they won't even give their own Jon Lester that kind of money.
 
I fear Cole Hamels would find his career ruined in Bean Town....in years to come. Not much of an upgrade for him....no chance in hell, Bosox come close to the East Pennant....

No chance Bosox go to Playoffs this year, even if 6 wildcards existed....!
 
When you're done Rob let me know how the book is. i'm looking for something to read on the plane when I go visit my daughter.

I sure will Rick, I should finish it within a week....so far, I'm very impressed with the book. Love it actually....will fill you in more tho' when I'm done with it.

the book "ERA: 1947-1957, When the Yankees, Giants and Dodgers Ruled the World" by Roger Kahn is a pretty good book, if you don't mind Kahn's writing style. I just began reading this 2nd book. The book touches on more than just the 3 NY Teams, eg, Stan Musial is spoken highly of as a NL NY Assassin....with game result examples.
 

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