No one is taking Minnesota or OKC seriously. Why?

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PtldPlatypus said:
The small market thing has nothing o do with winning, but with the size of the fan base, and thus the number of people predisposed to want to bet on that team, which is a relevant point when considering Vegas odds.
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Another good point. Gambling is starting to make me wonder about the game anymore.
 
kjironman1 said:
Another good point. Gambling is starting to make me wonder about the game anymore.
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If it makes you feel better, sports betting being legal makes it much easier to identify if games are being fixed or something along those lines.

I'd also say that the impact a teams fans has on the betting lines is also likely at an all-time low because the overall volume of betting is up.
 
Tince said:
If it makes you feel better, sports betting being legal makes it much easier to identify if games are being fixed or something along those lines.

I'd also say that the impact a teams fans has on the betting lines is also likely at an all-time low because the overall volume of betting is up.
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Larger markets also tend to receive disproportionate media coverage, which likely has a larger impact on the being public than the size of a fan base does.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Larger markets also tend to receive disproportionate media coverage, which likely has a larger impact on the being public than the size of a fan base does.
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True... but anymore, with all the data out there, the sharpes will hammer a book if they move a line too far. I was listening to a podcast where an oddsmaker said examples like this is when the sportsbook would rather have uneven money than a bad line.

In the 90's, you could blindly bet against the Cowboys and win money long term. Those days are gone.
 
Tince said:
I don't know how much "respect" they are or are not getting. That's a pretty subjective term. I'm sure every team could make a case for the disrespect narrative.

Minnesota isn't a great outside shooting team, they have shown to have maturity/chemistry issues which could bubble back up when the times get tough, and most importantly, they've had little to no post-season success with this roster. To go from not winning a playoff series in 20 years to winning the NBA championship would be an unprecedented jump. I'd wager they are more likely to get bounced by the 2nd round than they are to win it all. Therefore, I think they are a longshot to win it all and appropriately respected.
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Welp, got this one wrong(ish)!
 
blazerkor said:
I'm actually really impressed with both the Wolves and the Mavs. Last season I couldn't imagine a way that the Wolves would make KAT/Gobert work and they now have. The same goes for the Mavs with Luka/Kyrie. It's impressive that those teams stuck with those guys when they looked like absolutely mismatched parts and figured out how to make that work.
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Good post.
 
blazerkor said:
I'm actually really impressed with both the Wolves and the Mavs. Last season I couldn't imagine a way that the Wolves would make KAT/Gobert work and they now have. The same goes for the Mavs with Luka/Kyrie. It's impressive that those teams stuck with those guys when they looked like absolutely mismatched parts and figured out how to make that work.
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This is why you have got to take a chance that some people will may not like at some point. You can’t just keep playing things safe all the time.
 
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