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Read the whole thing:
https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/10/14/lies-lies-lies-lies-lies-lies-lies-lies-lies-lies/

One of them is a Republican fave:

Lie #9: Cutting taxes will jump-start rapid growth

Insistence in the magical power of tax cuts is the ultimate zombie lie of U.S. policy discussion; nothing can kill it. And we know why: there’s a lot of money behind the proposition that great things will happen if you cut the donors’ taxes. It’s difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

Still, for the record: Reagan cut taxes, and although his administration began with a terrible recession, there was a fast recovery thereafter. Some of us think Paul Volcker had more to do with both the recession and the recovery than anything coming from the White House; but in any case we have more evidence.

For Bill Clinton raised taxes, amid cries from the right that he would destroy the economy. Instead he presided over a boom that surpassed Reagan in every dimension. For what it’s worth, I don’t think this boom was Clinton’s doing. But it certainly refuted the proposition that cutting taxes is both necessary and sufficient for prosperity.

Then Bush the younger cut taxes, and there were many hosannahs about the “Bush boom.” What he actually got was a lackluster recovery, followed by an epic crash.

Finally, Obama inherited the aftermath of that crash, and despite scorched-earth opposition from Republicans the economy gradually clawed its way back. Then in 2013 Obama first raised taxes substantially, then implemented the Affordable Care Act, again amid cries of disaster from the right. The economy did fine.

Oh, and there were the recent state-level experiments. Sam Brownback slashed taxes in Kansas, promising an economic miracle; all he got was a fiscal crisis. Jerry Brown raised taxes in California, amid predictions of – you guessed it – disaster; the economy boomed, and the main problem is a housing shortage.

There is nothing, nothing at all, in this history that would make any open-minded person believe that the Trump tax plan will cause dramatically accelerated growth.
 
Oh, and there were the recent state-level experiments. Sam Brownback slashed taxes in Kansas, promising an economic miracle; all he got was a fiscal crisis. Jerry Brown raised taxes in California, amid predictions of – you guessed it – disaster; the economy boomed, and the main problem is a housing shortage.

Damn facts!!
 
Lets volunteer to double our taxes and get instant results.th boulder ledge.jpg
 
Read the whole thing:
https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/10/14/lies-lies-lies-lies-lies-lies-lies-lies-lies-lies/



Oh, and there were the recent state-level experiments. Sam Brownback slashed taxes in Kansas, promising an economic miracle; all he got was a fiscal crisis. Jerry Brown raised taxes in California, amid predictions of – you guessed it – disaster; the economy boomed, and the main problem is a housing shortage.

Illinois is a pretty good state-level experiment, right?

Of course he wouldn't mention Texas, Florida, Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, or New Hampshire as examples.

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130 billion in just pension?

They need to get Bill Gates and Warren Buffet and all the other big billionaires to come for a conference.

Not for ideas, just to kidnap them for ransom.

Just keep borrowing away people!

"Democratic Socialism" in action.

Higher taxes, not a problem!

Overly generous benefits for government union employees!

Raise minimum wage to $15!

It's working like promised.
 
"Democratic Socialism" in action.

Higher taxes, not a problem!

Overly generous benefits for government union employees!

Raise minimum wage to $15!

It's working like promised.

As Margaret Thatcher so aptly stated,
“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

It amazes me so many "intelligent" people fail to grasp that concept.
 
As Margaret Thatcher so aptly stated,
“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

It amazes me so many "intelligent" people fail to grasp that concept.

Hyperbole.

Socialism is great in:
  • Denmark.
  • Finland.
  • Netherlands.
  • Canada.
  • Sweden.
  • Norway.
You also have all kinds of socialist programs in America. I guess you just wanna shut down the VA huh?
 
Hyperbole.

Socialism is great in:
  • Denmark.
  • Finland.
  • Netherlands.
  • Canada.
  • Sweden.
  • Norway.
You also have all kinds of socialist programs in America. I guess you just wanna shut down the VA huh?

You really have no concept of how our own government was intended to work let alone those in Europe. Let me help you. I will use our country and Denmark as examples.

USA - Constitutional Republic (Not a Constitutional Democracy)
Denmark - Constitutional Monarchy (in other words they have a King and Queen)

BTW- The Veterans Administration falls well within the constitutional responsibilities given the Federal Government of the United States of America.
 
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You really have no concept of how our own government was intended to work let alone those in Europe. Let me help you. I will use our country and Denmark as examples.

USA - Constitutional Republic (Not a Constitutional Democracy)
Denmark - Constitutional Monarchy (in other words they have a King and Queen)

BTW- The Veterans Administration falls well within the constitutional responsibilities given the Federal Government of the United States of America.

And you do... Hilarious.
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$18T is almost how much debt Obama left us all to pay for.

It's also just about all the money from every dollar earned or product sold in the US in a year.

But it's all free.
 
You really have no concept of how our own government was intended to work let alone those in Europe. Let me help you. I will use our country and Denmark as examples.

USA - Constitutional Republic (Not a Constitutional Democracy)
Denmark - Constitutional Monarchy (in other words they have a King and Queen)

BTW- The Veterans Administration falls well within the constitutional responsibilities given the Federal Government of the United States of America.

Socialism at it's finest. Government paid, government ran, Government doctors, free for our veterans. It's socialism.
 
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$18T is almost how much debt Obama left us all to pay for.

It's also just about all the money from every dollar earned or product sold in the US in a year.

But it's all free.

When you stop paying for war you can pay for shit. When you stop giving free money to corporations you can pay for shit.

Free = no fucking premium. But you know this and would rather speak disingenuously (lie) about it.
 
Socialism at it's finest. Government paid, government ran, Government doctors, free for our veterans. It's socialism.

It's not socialism.

1. VA care and benefits are earned by honorable services rendered via enlistment contract, not given. Socialist care is given to everyone in a geopolitical area.

2. Veterans have the choice to not use VA care. Socialists don’t.

3. The VA discriminates in the levels of care it gives. Care levels are decided by many factors including levels of disability, economic status, age, eras, and theaters of service. Socialist care is one and all.

4. The VA can send veterans to private care. In socialist care if they don’t provide it, you are out of luck.

5. The VA doesn’t manufacture its own drugs or medical equipment. Socialist care does.

6. Although rare, VA medical care can be revoked. Socialist care can’t refuse the most abusive user.

Although the VA has many of the negative aspects of Socialized care….(decisions made by bureaucrats not doctors, weeks and month long waits, chronic troublemakers slowing the system with frivolous care requests, years of appeals, little personal connection with doctors…) it’s not socialized care.
 
When you stop paying for war you can pay for shit. When you stop giving free money to corporations you can pay for shit.

Free = no fucking premium. But you know this and would rather speak disingenuously (lie) about it.

The wars don't come close to paying for all this "free" shit.

And I do mean "shit."
 
Yup. Healthcare for poor people is shit. You'd be in this group yelling for them to die:



Expensive "care," without enough doctors, long waiting times, no better outcomes, rationing by government fiat, and squashing of innovation. I call it shit for good reason, because it is.
 

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