Science Nukemap

[Jade Falcon]

I wasn't sure what prefix to use, so I opted for "Science".

I've been playing around with a new map program that I just found. One which calculates nuclear strikes using a bunch of variables that I'm only so knowledgeable about.

I've been doing nuclear strikes on Portland. And....it's quite chilling.

https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

The TSAR Bomba, if it were detonated in Portland with an airburst detonation of 1,650 feet, would pretty much kill everyone (over 1.3 million people), and the fallout, predicting wind conditions, would stretch all the way to Northern Canada.

Half of the people inside of 19,330 square-kilometers would have 3rd Degree burns. It would have a fireball 117 square-kilometers wide, which would pretty much instantly incinerate all of Downtown Portland, leaving a crater that is 10.1 square-kilometers wide at the lip, and 1,400 feet deep.

Holy shit.

I'm quite fascinated by nuclear weapons, and I won't lie: I'm glad we have them.

But this certainly puts a lot of things in perspective.

So check out the site, and play around with the various bombs and fallouts. Most of it is beyond my area of knowledge (never did well with maths and geography), but it's simple enough even for me.

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

Nice. I remember seeing a picture in a news paper when I was a kid with a bull's-eye painted over Portland, and it freaked me the fuck out. The article was about where the Soviets would strike if they did. It wasn't til a few years later that this asshole that my mom almost married explained MAD to me that I chilled out. He was a big Regan fan who liked to play with his guns when he got drunk.

 

[barfo]

I've been doing nuclear strikes on Portland.

So it was you.

barfo

 

[BrianFromWA]

don't worry about the Tsar Bomba. There was only one, and even though it's 400x bigger yield than what the Russkies would (likely, heaven forbid) use today, it's waaaay too big to be carried on anything but a specially-designed slow bomber that we would intercept well before it got to Portland.

Play with the SS-N-32 Bulava if you want a realistic threat. The Dongfeng-31 is the likeliest Chinese-launched ICBM to hit Portland, if it came to it.

EDIT: All items here are based off of open-source.

 

[Jade Falcon]

don't worry about the Tsar Bomba. There was only one, and even though it's 400x bigger yield than what the Russkies would (likely, heaven forbid) use today, it's waaaay too big to be carried on anything but a specially-designed slow bomber that we would intercept well before it got to Portland.

Play with the SS-N-32 Bulava if you want a realistic threat. The Dongfeng-31 is the likeliest Chinese-launched ICBM to hit Portland, if it came to it.

EDIT: All items here are based off of open-source.

I tried the latest ICBM from China, the DongFeng-5. It may not be the Tsar Bomb, but it's still ugly as fuck.

Pretty much everyone in lower Clark County (15 miles from ground zero) is getting 3rd Degree burns.

 

[MARIS61]

I've been doing nuclear strikes on Portland.

That explains a lot...

 

[BrianFromWA]

I tried the latest ICBM from China, the DongFeng-5. It may not be the Tsar Bomb, but it's still ugly as fuck.

Pretty much everyone in lower Clark County (15 miles from ground zero) is getting 3rd Degree burns.

Whether you're going counterforce or counterstrike, Portland's never going to be high enough on the list to have a DF-5 targeted at it (open source says they only have around 25).

Now, if one is living in the SeaTac area between Bangor, Bremerton, Lewis-McChord and Whidbey...yeah, you don't want nuclear war.

 

[stampedehero]

WHOA. One Nuke ( no matter what designation) combined with fierce wind and oceanographic patterns would ruin every child's life and every life organism all because of vain callous decisions from "fearless leaders". Steve Miller Band 1968 "'Brave New World" starts with a nuclear explosion.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I get where you're coming from, but there have been 2000 "legal" nuclear events ranging from Trinity (13 kT) to the aforementioned Tsar Bomba (61 MT), and we still have a few organisms hanging around. Hell, Krakatoa blew up with the combined force of every nuclear bomb ever detonated all in one place and, though it caused severe global climate discrepancies it was only for a couple of years.

I'm not hoping for it, but nuclear weapons are not going to be the fall of the human race.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

nuclear weapons are not going to be the fall of the human race.

yeah, yall need to get some superflu shit that will make everyone on earth bleed heavily out of their peehole and make their eyes rot out, until they die. got any of that stuff?

that way, you dont kill all the innocent plants.

 

[BrianFromWA]

yeah, yall need to get some superflu shit that will make everyone on earth bleed heavily out of their peehole and make their eyes rot out, until they die. got any of that stuff?

that way, you dont kill all the innocent plants.

No, but interestingly enough there was a study that one of the post-Nagasaki effects was a greater incidence of congenital syphilis, which would cause your penis to decay ("black syphilis"?) and your eyes to run constantly with spirochete-infested pus. No blood, sorry.

 

[Jade Falcon]

I get where you're coming from, but there have been 2000 "legal" nuclear events ranging from Trinity (13 kT) to the aforementioned Tsar Bomba (61 MT), and we still have a few organisms hanging around. Hell, Krakatoa blew up with the combined force of every nuclear bomb ever detonated all in one place and, though it caused severe global climate discrepancies it was only for a couple of years.

I'm not hoping for it, but nuclear weapons are not going to be the fall of the human race.

This. Quite frankly, I think everyone, with the exception of Kim Jong Un, are too terrified to ever actually use them. And that's a good thing, because that's exactly what they are for: deterrent.

I'm far more concerned about the Earth-ending asteroid than I am about anyone with their fingers on a nuke football.

I'm off to watch the game. Go Blazers.

 

[jlprk]

https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

Good site. The powers-that-be don't want everyone to think about this great danger. It will inevitably happen someday. I predict the year 2081.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Good site. The powers-that-be don't want everyone to think about this great danger. It will inevitably happen someday. I predict the year 2081.

Perfect. I'll either be already dead, or 102 years old and ready to meet my Maker. Sounds like an excellent year for a nuclear holocaust.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Good site. The powers-that-be don't want everyone to think about this great danger. It will inevitably happen someday. I predict the year 2081.

Just curious: why 2081? Why not 2082 or 2080?