Nurkic postgame comments

[Tince]

Huh? That's funny. I breakdown basketball for two hours after every game and break things down in here and on Twitter day in and day out. I get the leeway of an LOL every once in a while.

Plenty of your replies to me lack basketball content. Seems to be trending in that direction more and more unfortunately. I'm open to decenting opinions to what I have to say, I would much prefer that to a non-basketball post; or no reply at all, either works.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I like Nurk, but he's pretty low on the list of people who should be talking about these things.

Nurk has a history of allowing his personal success to impact his decision making on the court. When his shots are falling, he's totally engaged, but when things aren't going well for him, he can go in the tank. If he misses an easy shot or makes a bad turnover, he's prone to compound it by fouling right away. He's admittedly gone rogue on schemes, which is selfish, even if he thinks it well intended.

Most importantly, he's talking about guys on the floor who have been playing out of position and roles that are not ideal in order to make up for his extended absences.

It is absolutely a joke for him to call out anyone. But I think it is part of his personality. He is a bit quirky. Next year he needs to work his ass off in the offseason and get bigger stronger and more skilled. He has not progressed for a while. Granted he has had some bad luck, but next season is his make or break season. He needs to play smarter and talk smarter.

 

[Tince]

It is absolutely a joke for him to call out anyone. But I think it is part of his personality. He is a bit quirky. Next year he needs to work his ass off in the offseason and getter bigger stronger and more skilled. He has not progressed for a while. Granted he has had some bad luck, but next season is his make or break season. He needs to play smarter and talk smarter.

I agree! I sure hope we get a consistently good Nurk for a couple seasons before it's all said and done; he really makes a difference when he's healthy, in shape, and active on both ends of the floor.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

Please tell me this expedites Terry's firing. What joy that would bring me as a Blazer fan!

....or Nurk gets Cancelled!?

 

[James lamphear]

Well if he continues to talk like this even some of things are true I won't be surprised if he gets traded this off season.

 

[BonesJones]

Plenty of your replies to me lack basketball content. Seems to be trending in that direction more and more unfortunately. I'm open to decenting opinions to what I have to say, I would much prefer that to a non-basketball post; or no reply at all, either works.

You're being a bit self-righteous right now. Pay attention or dont complain.

 

[MickZagger]

We never get easy buckets. We gotta be close to dead last in transition pointsz

 

[Natebishop3]

It boggles my mind how people seem to blame Dame and C.J. for this. The offense having no structure or movement FORCES them to do this shit. A lot of times I feel like Dame feels like "Fuck it, I can't get a good look unless I pull this from 30, and our offense is doing jack shit in the halfcourt so patience isn't gonna result in anything better, so I might as well launch" and I can't blame him for that if that's the case.

CJ's averaging 5 assists per 36. And it's not like he's getting easy assists by passing to cutters or guys curling off screens since we don't utilize that. Instead, he's working hard to create those 5 assists a game. He seems to have taken it upon himself to be a better shot creator for others and to make the right decision on when to shoot or pass, as well as what shots to take. Sure, I get annoyed watching him dribble 1 on 1 over and over again, but I don't get mad at him because I feel like he has to do that in order for our offense (especially the bench) to get a quality look.

I want to see what our backcourt would look like under a different coach, which is part of the reason I haven't been screaming "Trade CJ!".

I agree that some of it is system, but come on Bones, you can't blame the system for CJ or Dame jacking a shot on a 3 on 1 fast break. That's not system. That's individual choice. CJ dribbling around for 10 minutes and not passing is, in my opinion, personal choice. Dame at least tries to get his teammates involved.

 

[Tince]

You're being a bit self-righteous right now. Pay attention or dont complain.

No offense, but you're probably the last person who should be speaking to others about self-righteousness. Again, I have no problem with your takes even if sometimes I think they are ill-informed.

I'd love to hear why you think Nurk is one of the better players on this roster to be talking about the teams shortcomings in terms of selfishness and leadership.

 

[BonesJones]

No offense, but you're probably the last person who should be speaking to others about self-righteousness. Again, I have no problem with your takes even if sometimes I think they are ill-informed.

I'd love to hear why you think Nurk is one of the better players on this roster to be talking about the teams shortcomings in terms of selfishness and leadership.

Im laughing at you because you're essentially saying Nurkic dorsnt know what he's talking about, which is absolutely comical and shouldnt need an explanation as to why.

 

[Tince]

Im laughing at you because you're essentially saying Nurkic dorsnt know what he's talking about, which is absolutely comical and shouldnt need an explanation as to why.

1) I didn't say he didn't know what he was talking about. I said he's not best position to be making those public statements given his history. Everything he said may be true (I don't know), but that doesn't mean he's the proper messenger. Just like CJ shouldn't be getting on the team for defense or Shaq shouldn't bust peoples chops for missing FTs.

2) Other people liked and commented agreeing with my assessment and nobody responded saying they disagreed with any statement I made in that post, so at the moment, your stance appears to be the outlier. Again, I'm open to anyone disagreeing with any of the statements I made in my original post and I would love to hear why you think Nurk has been a consistent emotional and physically stable leader to this team or why you think he's best positioned to pubically calling out his teammates and staff.

 

[AquaXI]

This is what happens when an Owner passes away and there is no accountability. It’s exwctly happening to Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson.

 

[Tince]

This is what happens when an Owner passes away and there is no accountability. It’s exwctly happening to Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson.

This is an interesting take I hadn't thought of (not a big NFL/seahawks fan). Do you know if the Seahawks are likely to be sold soon? Think they'll be sold prior to the Blazers?

 

[Natebishop3]

This is what happens when an Owner passes away and there is no accountability. It’s exwctly happening to Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson.

It’s interesting, when someone takes over control of someone else’s dream and they don’t share in that dream, it will slowly die off. When my grandfather passed away, my father and uncle ran the family business into the ground. It took years, decades even, but they slowly killed it because it was not their passion and they didn’t care if it grew. They just rode it until it was no longer successful because they didn’t give a shit. It wasn’t their dream.

 

[Phatguysrule]

This is what happens when an Owner passes away and there is no accountability. It’s exwctly happening to Pete Carroll and Russell Wilson.

Good observation.

 

[Mr. Robot]

I like Nurk, but he's pretty low on the list of people who should be talking about these things.

Nurk has a history of allowing his personal success to impact his decision making on the court. When his shots are falling, he's totally engaged, but when things aren't going well for him, he can go in the tank. If he misses an easy shot or makes a bad turnover, he's prone to compound it by fouling right away. He's admittedly gone rogue on schemes, which is selfish, even if he thinks it well intended.

Most importantly, he's talking about guys on the floor who have been playing out of position and roles that are not ideal in order to make up for his extended absences.

nurk is absolutely the right guy to speak about these issues, hes one of the competent defenders on this team and one who really gives effort on that end, so he certainly knows what hes talking about and hes the guy who wants to see the ball and player movement on offense, a guy who is a willing passer, so hes competent talking about the offense too

you wont see and hear dame and cj mccollum talk like this about offense and thats cause this iso offense suits them and theyre taking a lot of shots, so theyre happy

 

[Jayblaze]

If paul allen was still here stotts would've been fired by now

 

[GDiama]

Why don't we focus on what Nurk said instead of focusing on if he is the right guy to do that. Btw i think he is, but that's another story.

What he said i think has been mentioned in this forum multiple times. Those are known issues that we avoid to address or we don't know how to do that. In any case they are there and probably they will remain there.
And I much prefer someone stating facts and giving his side of view with proper explanation than the BS we hear from Dame, Sotts all the time that we just need to be more competitive take pride etc. Enough of that. Apparently Lillard has no clue on how to change that since he is the leader of the team and it's still same old shit. I cannot imagine LeBron would know how to solve something and wouldn't force it on the coach. Lillard and Stotts are on the same page and totally helpless to figure it out. Maybe hear someone else for a change.

Btw can I say Dame, Stotts are not the right guys to ever speak about D again since they are clueless on that end?

 

[stampedehero]

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[Mr. Robot]

man, look at jimmy, hes all about hard work and effort, you need guys like that

 

[Tince]

nurk is absolutely the right guy to speak about these issues, hes one of the competent defenders on this team and one who really gives effort on that end, so he certainly knows what hes talking about and hes the guy who wants to see the ball and player movement on offense, a guy who is a willing passer, so hes competent talking about the offense too

you wont see and hear dame and cj mccollum talk like this about offense and thats cause this iso offense suits them and theyre taking a lot of shots, so theyre happy

Thank you for your perspective robot... I agree Nurk has the skills to be one of our better defenders and passers. I still stand by my statements that he should not be worried about other peoples selfishness as he has displayed it himself and has required his teammates to be unselfish to make up for his absences. I feel this message would be better made by someone who has displayed consistent effort and availability.

I do believe he could be right about the issue, I just don't think he's the one who should be making a public stand.

 

[tester551]

I do believe he could be right about the issue, I just don't think he's the one who should be making a public stand.

The ones that 'should be' making the public stand aren't.... When that happens - it's better to get someone who is willing to make the stand than not.

 

[illmatic99]

The ones that 'should be' making the public stand aren't.... When that happens - it's better to get someone who is willing to make the stand than not.

what grand public stand did nurkic make? he's answering obvious and valid questions that our idiot coach refuses to even acknowledge because he know he's to blame.

 

[Tince]

The ones that 'should be' making the public stand aren't.... When that happens - it's better to get someone who is willing to make the stand than not.

I don't agree with the notion that a public stand is needed. Maybe a stand is needed, but in public? I haven't heard a good reason for that.

I also disagree that the wrong person trying to send a message is better than no person trying to send a message. I believe the wrong person attempting to send a message can makes things worse, not better. Just my opinion though. I don't pubically address the shortcomings of the people I manage or work along side because I don't believe it to be the optimal tactic long term.