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Lol the guy is a lunatic. Anyone who still supports these types of twitter rants is probably mentally ill themselves

Meanwhile trump is on his fourth vacation in Florida, in what, 6 weeks?
 
Trump reminds me of this stooge we had in sixth grade.
 
what a fucking shitstain.

any twitter lawyers out here? can obama sue him for libel? :lol:
 
Who knows. Maybe Obama really did order a wiretap . . . but as with most accusations of a vast conspiracy: extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, or enough coincidences that a pattern emerges.

It begs the question though, why go to the trouble to run a wiretap, when all he would have really needed to do was get some anonymous spook to leak Trump's tax returns to burn him? And if he did wiretap Trump's campaign, then why wasn't the intel gathered from those taps used during the election?
 
The scary thing to me is that the "alternative facts" and "fake news" they have set the stage to literally believe nothing bad about him. It's just one big conspiracy against Trump. Although, with that said, I think a Democrat could do just about anything and still get elected in Oregon. Hell, everyone knew about Kitzhaber's dirty laundry and they still voted for him. I'm not sure Democrats are much better.
 
DaLincolnJones said:
yeah..the honest press at work here...Communist News Network and MSLSD...oh hey look, The Times and an whistle blower have another take http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...lower-agency-absolutely-tapping-trumps-calls/

Fox interview

Honestly do not think Trump would go off on the subject without reasonable proof
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he was certainly willing to go off on voter fraud with absolutely no evidence at all. not much of a stretch to think this is nothing more than the same unsubstantiated accusations from him.
 
right, right right. bus loads of illegal aliens voting in new hampshire was surely what he was talking about in his tweets
 
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ma-used-police-state-tactics-undermine-trump/

1. June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.


2. July: Russia joke. Wikileaks releases emails from the Democratic National Committee that show an effort to prevent Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) from winning the presidential nomination. In a press conference, Donald Trump refers to Hillary Clinton’s own missing emails, joking: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing.” That remark becomes the basis for accusations by Clinton and the media that Trump invited further hacking.


3. October: Podesta emails. In October, Wikileaks releases the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta, rolling out batches every day until the election, creating new mini-scandals. The Clinton campaign blames Trump and the Russians.


4. October: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.


5. January 2017: Buzzfeed/CNN dossier. Buzzfeed releases, and CNN reports, a supposed intelligence “dossier” compiled by a foreign former spy. It purports to show continuous contact between Russia and the Trump campaign, and says that the Russians have compromising information about Trump. None of the allegations can be verified and some are proven false. Several media outlets claim that they had been aware of the dossier for months and that it had been circulating in Washington.


6. January: Obama expands NSA sharing. As Michael Walsh later notes, and as the New York Times reports, the outgoing Obama administration “expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.” The new powers, and reduced protections, could make it easier for intelligence on private citizens to be circulated improperly or leaked.


7. January: Times report. The New York Times reports, on the eve of Inauguration Day, that several agencies — the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Treasury Department are monitoring several associates of the Trump campaign suspected of Russian ties. Other news outlets also report the exisentence of “a multiagency working group to coordinate investigations across the government,” though it is unclear how they found out, since the investigations would have been secret and involved classified information.


8. February: Mike Flynn scandal. Reports emerge that the FBI intercepted a conversation in 2016 between future National Security Adviser Michael Flynn — then a private citizen — and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. The intercept supposedly was part of routine spying on the ambassador, not monitoring of the Trump campaign. The FBI transcripts reportedly show the two discussing Obama’s newly-imposed sanctions on Russia, though Flynn earlier denied discussing them. Sally Yates, whom Trump would later fire as acting Attorney General for insubordination, is involved in the investigation. In the end, Flynn resigns over having misled Vice President Mike Pence (perhaps inadvertently) about the content of the conversation.


9. February: Times claims extensive Russian contacts. The New York Times cites “four current and former American officials” in reporting that the Trump campaign had “repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials. The Trump campaign denies the claims — and the Times admits that there is “no evidence” of coordination between the campaign and the Russians. The White House and some congressional Republicans begin to raise questions about illegal intelligence leaks.


10. March: the Washington Post targets Jeff Sessions. The Washington Post reports that Attorney General Jeff Sessions had contact twice with the Russian ambassador during the campaign — once at a Heritage Foundation event and once at a meeting in Sessions’s Senate office. The Post suggests that the two meetings contradict Sessions’s testimony at his confirmation hearings that he had no contacts with the Russians, though in context (not presented by the Post) it was clear he meant in his capacity as a campaign surrogate, and that he was responding to claims in the “dossier” of ongoing contacts. The New York Times, in covering the story, adds that the Obama White House “rushed to preserve” intelligence related to alleged Russian links with the Trump campaign. By “preserve” it really means “disseminate”: officials spread evidence throughout other government agencies “to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators” and perhaps the media as well.


In summary: the Obama administration sought, and eventually obtained, authorization to eavesdrop on the Trump campaign; continued monitoring the Trump team even when no evidence of wrongdoing was found; then relaxed the NSA rules to allow evidence to be shared widely within the government, virtually ensuring that the information, including the conversations of private citizens, would be leaked to the media.
 
When will people in this forum understand that posting shit from Fox News and Breitbart takes away your credibility?? :dunno:
 
Trump will be forced to resign soon. I'm not celebrating because Pence is anti-gay but we need a sane dignified President now.
 
dviss1 said:
When will people in this forum understand that posting shit from Fox News and Breitbart takes away your credibility?? :dunno:
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You mean, like you just posted a bunch of bullshit from the Washington Post in another thread.

Get over yourself.
 
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