Oden being fronted

[Sean.ivity]

does anybody else notice that oden's been getting good position inside, and has his man sealed off for the easy lob over the top to him, but nobody on the team is willing to throw him the ball? dude may as well just stand by the 3 point line to conserve energy considering nobody is gonna pass him the ball anyways.

I pointed this out in the game thread, its very annoying.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Until Oden develops a good drop step, him getting good position is not going to do much at all.

 

[Ed O]

Until Oden develops a good drop step, him getting good position is not going to do much at all.

He was able to score last year and he was able to get to the line.

He can certainly improve a lot from where he is, but I don't think that he's worse than he was last year. He's just not getting as many chances for whatever reason.

Ed O.

 

[Buzz Killington]

He was able to score last year and he was able to get to the line.

He can certainly improve a lot from where he is, but I don't think that he's worse than he was last year. He's just not getting as many chances for whatever reason.

Ed O.

He got a lot of his points off put backs and just knocking guys over. He needs to get more comfortable with drop steps, spinning and putting the ball onto the ground. You know, actual low post moves.

I think alot of it has to do with the quick hands of Hayes and good Rockets defense....he was not able to get into a rhythm because as soon as he got the ball he was not able to go to the hoop. His post moves have been laughable thus far this young season.

 

[Sean.ivity]

He got a lot of his points off put backs and just knocking guys over. He needs to get more comfortable with drop steps, spinning and putting the ball onto the ground. You know, actual low post moves.

I think alot of it has to do with the quick hands of Hayes and good Rockets defense....he was not able to get into a rhythm because as soon as he got the ball he was not able to go to the hoop. His post moves have been laughable thus far this young season.

Well unless he gets those opportunity's in game then he will never get into a rhythm. His team mates were saying how much he has improved and was doing very well in practices. But, practice and a game is completely different. if he has position THAT deep more times then not he will have a dunk or draw a foul... so when he gets that deep position they need to feed him the ball so he can get used to it.

 

[Buzz Killington]

Well unless he gets those opportunity's in game then he will never get into a rhythm. His team mates were saying how much he has improved and was doing very well in practices. But, practice and a game is completely different. if he has position THAT deep more times then not he will have a dunk or draw a foul... so when he gets that deep position they need to feed him the ball so he can get used to it.

He doesn't set up that deep on the post. He needs that drop step and after several turnovers in game situations, you have to stop going to him if you want to actually win the game.

 

[Tince]

there is no such thing as an "easy lob" against a set defense in the NBA. When you have 6'9" athletes that cover 10ft in 1 second, lobs just don't work (unless they're ally-oops).

The beauty of Greg getting fronted is that it takes away an interior defender to help if our perimeter players were able to penetrate.

I thought Greg had a nice game tonight. I still wish he would put some sort of effort into rolling of the P&R. His roll is so delayed, slow, and he often takes a horrible angle down the key. He would do himself a ton of favors by cleaning that up.

 

[rocketeer]

did oden get more looks after aldridge got hurt? if aldridge missing a few games with a hopefully minor injury is what it takes for the team to realize that oden should be used as an offensive weapon as well, it could turn out to be a good thing.

 

[Sean.ivity]

He doesn't set up that deep on the post. He needs that drop step and after several turnovers in game situations, you have to stop going to him if you want to actually win the game.

Im not saying run the offense through him or anything but when he does get that deep position and/or is being fronted with NOBODY between him and the basket then they need to get him the ball. Theres going to be bumps in the road but that's how one learns. they dont learn by watching there team mates shoot all day.

 

[Buzz Killington]

He really hasn't created with the opportunities he has gotten though.

 

[Sean.ivity]

He really hasn't created with the opportunities he has gotten though.

4 games into the season.... give him time to adjust and get into a flow.... like I said in another thread that I would expect a double double would be normal for him by game 15.. but thats just me, we can agree to disagree perhaps?

 

[B-Roy]

did oden get more looks after aldridge got hurt? if aldridge missing a few games with a hopefully minor injury is what it takes for the team to realize that oden should be used as an offensive weapon as well, it could turn out to be a good thing.

Nope, he had to create for himself. (Orebs)

 

[Buzz Killington]

4 games into the season.... give him time to adjust and get into a flow.... like I said in another thread that I would expect a double double would be normal for him by game 15.. but thats just me, we can agree to disagree perhaps?

NO! WE MUST ARGUE FOR 10 MORE PAGES!

 

[Sean.ivity]

NO! WE MUST ARGUE FOR 10 MORE PAGES!

or we can just meet in an arena and throw it down gladiator style to the death?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

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That's how we should be using Greg. P&R's, Ally Oops, no ISO's!