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If they mistakenly build around Dame, who do you think are the targets. IMO it has to be a forward who is an all star level player on a rebuilding team, or the same type of player who is disgruntled. Any thoughts on who we might target?
 
So far the disgruntled players appear to be Jaylen Brown and possibly Luka. The only way you’re getting Luka is if you win the first pick. I’m not sure what Browns value is.
 
I just don't see POR being able to put together the best package to get any star. OKC can just keep adding picks and easily outbid anyone. POR will have to take a big risk on a old and/or perpetually injured player and not someone in his prime. Chips are Ant and Nurk? Ain't gonna happen unless the stars align etc.
 
Cugel said:
I just don't see POR being able to put together the best package to get any star. OKC can just keep adding picks and easily outbid anyone. POR will have to take a big risk on a old and/or perpetually injured player and not someone in his prime. Chips are Ant and Nurk? Ain't gonna happen unless the stars align etc.
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Ant and picks. If you're trading Nurk you have to get a legit center in return.
 
Mikal Bridges. Building around Dame, a generational talent, is NOT a mistake. Thinking a total rebuild around one & doners is ridonculous. Rebuild could take 10 to 15 years. Don't know what you got, till it's gone. Another song has good advice as well. With a little luck......... The West is full of opportunity going forward. If Ant is as good as some of you think, he should be wanted by most teams in the league. Nothing against Ant, he's very good. But we have Dame, and he is great. Bridges should be the big offseason mark. Whatever it takes.
 
Bridges, Jaylen Brown, OG, Jimmy Butler
 
Cugel said:
I just don't see POR being able to put together the best package to get any star. OKC can just keep adding picks and easily outbid anyone. POR will have to take a big risk on a old and/or perpetually injured player and not someone in his prime. Chips are Ant and Nurk? Ain't gonna happen unless the stars align etc.
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The problem with the OKC hoard picks strategy is the star player has to actually want to go to OKC.

Otherwise, star player says “Yeah, OK, I won’t re-sign with you”.

That’s why they don’t have Kyrie, Durant, or any other star that has been traded.

Not that they necessarily wanted those guys, but stars have clearly been forcing their way to certain teams.
 
Just too damn early. We need to see where the pick lands. If it lands at one you've got to think we're taking Wemby and that means even fulfilling our obligation to the Bulls we will have 4 FRPs. If we in all likelihood don't get the number one pick, the second pick has a far different value than the eighth. Then we have to see who flames out in the first round or if a top two seed gets swept in the second.

What I'm saying is that if we're building around Dame, the value of our biggest trade chip hasn't been decided yet and at the same time it's far less clear now than it will be in a month and a half who would be easier to pry away from their current team.
 
Predator said:
The problem with the OKC hoard picks strategy is the star player has to actually want to go to OKC.

Otherwise, star player says “Yeah, OK, I won’t re-sign with you”.

That’s why they don’t have Kyrie, Durant, or any other star that has been traded.

Not that they necessarily wanted those guys, but stars have clearly been forcing their way to certain teams.
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The other problem is that they love their picks and seem to be on a pretty cool trajectory with the players they have. I see it much more likely that OKC packages a bunch of picks together on draft day to move up and get a young guy that keeps building that monstrous young team they have, than leveraging all of those picks for a superstar outside of SGA's optimal window. Or they just hold onto those future picks. Regardless I do not see OKC as the barrier to us getting a second all star like @Cugel does because it seems like there are always more than one all star on the move every off season.
 
tykendo said:
Mikal Bridges. Building around Dame, a generational talent, is NOT a mistake. Thinking a total rebuild around one & doners is ridonculous. Rebuild could take 10 to 15 years. Don't know what you got, till it's gone. Another song has good advice as well. With a little luck......... The West is full of opportunity going forward. If Ant is as good as some of you think, he should be wanted by most teams in the league. Nothing against Ant, he's very good. But we have Dame, and he is great. Bridges should be the big offseason mark. Whatever it takes.
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Not sure we have remotely what it would take. Dude is a young two way budding superstar
 
blazerkor said:
Just too damn early. We need to see where the pick lands. If it lands at one you've got to think we're taking Wemby and that means even fulfilling our obligation to the Bulls we will have 4 FRPs. If we in all likelihood don't get the number one pick, the second pick has a far different value than the eighth. Then we have to see who flames out in the first round or if a top two seed gets swept in the second.

What I'm saying is that if we're building around Dame, the value of our biggest trade chip hasn't been decided yet and at the same time it's far less clear now than it will be in a month and a half who would be easier to pry away from their current team.
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Yeah after that there will be lots of back room discussions with agents and such.
 
I don't think they're going to build AROUND him, but build with him.

Both Dame and Joe (and Chauncey) can't be delusional enough to think they're just one trade away from being a contender (and imho, they don't, otherwise they would've already made a stupid trade trading away assets and orchestrated the trade with Chicago to clear up future picks).
 
Bridges untouchable. Butler too old. If Brown is traded, I think will only go somewhere he wants to go.. Miami and Toronto kind of in flux, so maybe Siakam or Adebayo available?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Not sure we have remotely what it would take. Dude is a young two way budding superstar
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So you think that Bridges would cost more than let's just say Ant, the 6th pick in this draft, the 24th pick in this draft and lightly protected picks in 2026, '28 and '30?

I wouldn't even pay that much for him but that is what we have to offer if we want to. I think Chicago would jump at a second round pick to guarantee they get our pick next year. If Brooklyn is open to trading Bridges I honestly think we could get him even if we land Wemby. Ant, the Knicks pick and three future firsts. That's all if you have Shaedon as someone who is off the table. If Shae were on the table in a Bridges trade, I don't know if you have to add any picks to Ant and Shae in order to get him.

So I think we at least "remotely" have what it would take to get Mikal Bridges.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Bridges untouchable. Butler too old. If Brown is traded, I think will only go somewhere he wants to go.. Miami and Toronto kind of in flux, so maybe Siakam or Adebayo available?
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Yeah, my dream scenario is that Miami gets cooked in the first round and we win the Wemby sweepstakes. We trade Ant and Nurk along with 4 FRPs for Bam and Duncan Robinson's shitty contract. We re-sign Jerami, pick up an upperclassman backup big or backup PG with our second rounder and then fill that other need with the miniMLE. We just have to see what happens in the playoffs and where our fucking pick ends up to have any clue about this subject.
 
tykendo said:
I'm sure Joe is gonna give it, one hell of a try.
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This is the thing right here. I think Joe is genuine in his stated mission to try to build a contender around Dame but if that proves to be a task he isn't up to I think he will pivot, he'll use both draft picks, he'll trade Dame and we will be in a youth rebuild which is much lower stakes for Joe and Chauncey. I'm not saying that's what Joe wants or that the pivot is the most likely thing, I just think Joe has shown that he is going to be particular and that has resulted in him selling instead of buying every chance he has had to choose between the two.

I guess we'll see soon.
 
blazerkor said:
So you think that Bridges would cost more than let's just say Ant, the 6th pick in this draft, the 24th pick in this draft and lightly protected picks in 2026, '28 and '30?

I wouldn't even pay that much for him but that is what we have to offer if we want to. I think Chicago would jump at a second round pick to guarantee they get our pick next year. If Brooklyn is open to trading Bridges I honestly think we could get him even if we land Wemby. Ant, the Knicks pick and three future firsts. That's all if you have Shaedon as someone who is off the table. If Shae were on the table in a Bridges trade, I don't know if you have to add any picks to Ant and Shae in order to get him.

So I think we at least "remotely" have what it would take to get Mikal Bridges.
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Yes. He’s a young stud
 
If Jaylen Brown is available, which reportedly he can’t stand the city of Boston for its racism, we need to do everything we can to try to target him. Amazing player.
 
I don't love Jaylen's game, he tends to associate with idiots (Kyrie, Kanye, etc.), and something tells me he would find plenty to complain about with Portland's culture. With that said, he's massively talented. I wonder if we could help facilitate getting him somewhere else and get a target that might be a bit better fit. I'd prefer OG and the cost would be less, but I don't see JB in Toronto.
 
Natebishop3 said:
So far the disgruntled players appear to be Jaylen Brown and possibly Luka. The only way you’re getting Luka is if you win the first pick. I’m not sure what Browns value is.
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I don't think Luka with Dame would equal the sum of their parts. Which one gets to control the ball?
 
Nurkic for Mikal Bridges.

Nets can start tanking, Blazers can continue to tank.

Both teams win to lose
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Bridges untouchable. Butler too old. If Brown is traded, I think will only go somewhere he wants to go.. Miami and Toronto kind of in flux, so maybe Siakam or Adebayo available?
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Butler to old? Dames only one year younger so if that’s the case, who the hell would want Dame? I guess his trade value would be really low.
 
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