Okay lets take a closer look......

[Rick2583]

AL EAST =

Toronto + Russell Martin & Josh Donaldson
New York + Andrew Miller
Baltimore + Nothing
Boston + Rick Porcello, Justin Masterson, Pablo Sandoval & Hanley Ramirez
Tampa Bay +John Jaso & Asdrubal Cabrera

 

[yankeesince59]

^^^don't forget about the Jays picking up Josh Donaldson.

 

[Rick2583]

^^^don't forget about the Jays picking up Josh Donaldson.

Thanks Ron. all fixed. Good thing we made all those solid moves to compete.

 

[yankeesince59]

..^^^ lol...yeah, #28 here we come.

 

[blgridesagain]

AL EAST =

Toronto + Russell Martin & Josh Donaldson
New York + Andrew Miller
Baltimore + Nothing
Boston + Rick Porcello, Justin Masterson, Pablo Sandoval & Hanley Ramirez
Tampa Bay +John Jaso & Asdrubal Cabrera

Don't forget Garrett Jones, LH power, 1b -Rf
... and Chase Headley, career .346 OBP and .756 ops with a good steady glove.

 

[yankeesince59]

...sigh...rick didn't list Headley because he was not an addition from last year like all the others...and Jones is a platoon bench player.

 

[Rick2583]

...sigh...rick didn't list Headley because he was not an addition from last year like all the others...and Jones is a platoon bench player.

I'm amazed that this actually needed explaining.

 

[blgridesagain]

...sigh...rick didn't list Headley because he was not an addition from last year like all the others...and Jones is a platoon bench player.

Sigh......Jones should assume part time duty mostly at DH (vs RHP)....some 1b, maybe occasionally RF. He has a career .810 OPS vs RHP and will probably be part of some rotation with Beltran,Young...ect for DH,RF.....I don't know, call me crazy but there's sound reason to believe he could be one of those factors which will help improve offensive output from the deadful numbers the Yanks got last year from the DH spot and/or possibly less limited duty inRF/1b.

And Headley is a NEW addition because there was doubt whether or not he would be on the team this year.....and now, unlike last year, he'll be there from game ONE.


Yep, is kinda amazing how some just overlooked a LH with good power - in Yankee Stadium- but then again, this may also explain why some believe the Yankees' run production won't improve from last year. lol

 

[blgridesagain]

...unfuckingbelievable...you just can't help it, can you?

Can't help what? Trying to explain to silly Yankee fans how their offense will be better than last year which should better offset and help a "mediocre" (maybe better) pitching staff? Oh, I forgot, Pecota and Fangraphs both picked Baltimore for last place with 78 wins and the Red Sox with 88 wins.

Do YOU believe those numbers? Get real.....YOU just can't help it.

 

[yankeesince59]

...unfuckingbelievable...you just can't help it, can you?

1. I'm well aware of his splits which is why I said Jones is a "platoon bench player"...did you completely miss that and do you know what platoon means?

2. You can spin Headley as being "new" however you want if that makes you feel better and if it will stop you from hijacking threads.

3. When did anyone say that they thought run production would be worse this year?...they didn't, so stop making things up just to fit your agenda.

 

[yankeesince59]

Oh, I forgot, Pecota and Fangraphs both picked Baltimore for last place with 78 wins and the Red Sox with 88 wins.

Do YOU believe those numbers? Get real.....YOU just can't help it.

...lmao... to even you it should be obvious that Baltimore is not as strong as last year and that Boston is stronger than last year...please, learn the game.

 

[Rick2583]

Sigh......Jones should assume part time duty mostly at DH (vs RHP)....some 1b, maybe occasionally RF. He has a career .810 OPS vs RHP and will probably be part of some rotation with Beltran,Young...ect for DH,RF.....I don't know, call me crazy but there's sound reason to believe he could be one of those factors which will help improve offensive output from the deadful numbers the Yanks got last year from the DH spot and/or possibly less limited duty inRF/1b.

And Headley is a NEW addition because there was doubt whether or not he would be on the team this year.....and now, unlike last year, he'll be there from game ONE.


Yep, is kinda amazing how some just overlooked a LH with good power - in Yankee Stadium- but then again, this may also explain why some believe the Yankees' run production won't improve from last year. lol

LMAO, You've got to be kidding me, how the hell could an OLD addition become a NEW addition when technically he never left?

 

[yankeesince59]

^^^ It's that "alternate universe" thing rearing its ugly head again.

...I suppose by using his logic, Chris Young is also a "NEW addition" ?

 

[blgridesagain]

1. I'm well aware of his splits which is why I said Jones is a "platoon bench player"...did you completely miss that and do you know what platoon means?

2. You can spin Headley as being "new" however you want if that makes you feel better and if it will stop from hijacking threads.

3. When did anyone say that they thought run production would be worse this year?...they didn't, so stop making things up just to fit your agenda.
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1) I'm also well aware he is a platoon bench player....and he adds good depth and has been productive which usually helps a team....as you may know, teams need good bench players to pitch in.

2) Call it whatever you'd like, but when the season starts, unlike last year, Headley will the starting 3b.

3) I never said anyone here said run production would be WORSE.....but I seem to be the ONLY one saying it would/should be considerably BETTER.
So stop putting words in my mouth.

Now please address the fancy links you provided which have the Orioles in last place with 78 wins and the Redsox winning 88 games......

And you have a problem with ME picking the Yanks to win approx 90 games?

WTF is your problem? lol

 

[Rick2583]

^^^ It's that "alternate universe" thing rearing its ugly head again.

...I suppose by using his logic, Chris Young is also a "NEW addition" ?

And by that logic Capuano & Drew would also be considered new additions.

 

[Rick2583]

1. I'm well aware of his splits which is why I said Jones is a "platoon bench player"...did you completely miss that and do you know what platoon means?

2. You can spin Headley as being "new" however you want if that makes you feel better and if it will stop from hijacking threads.

3. When did anyone say that they thought run production would be worse this year?...they didn't, so stop making things up just to fit your agenda.
_________________________________________________________________

1) I'm also well aware he is a platoon bench player....and he adds good depth and has been productive which usually helps a team....as you may know, teams need good bench players to pitch in.

2) Call it whatever you'd like, but when the season starts, unlike last year, Headley will the starting 3b.

3) I never said anyone here said run production would be WORSE.....but I seem to be the ONLY one saying it would/should be considerably BETTER.
So stop putting words in my mouth.

Now please address the fancy links you provided which have the Orioles in last place with 78 wins and the Redsox winning 88 games......

And you have a problem with ME picking the Yanks to win approx 90 games?

WTF is your problem? lol

Forgive my input, I know this wasn't addressed to me but.........The Orioles lost Cruz, Markakis & Miller & basically added no one so I agree they will suffer. The Red Sox on the other hand improved by adding pitchers Rick Porcello & Justin Masterson & infielders Pablo Sandoval & Handley Ramirez.

 

[blgridesagain]

So I guess I can include Heckle and Jeckle as agreeing with '59's almighty links as having Baltimore in LAST PLACE and BOSTON winning more games than the Yanks?

Fine with me. Now proceed with with your "new additions" smoke screen.

 

[Rick2583]

So I guess I can include Heckle and Jeckle as agreeing with '59's almighty links as having Baltimore in LAST PLACE and BOSTON winning more games than the Yanks?

Fine with me. Now proceed with with your "new additions" smoke screen.

I know I'm going to regret this but........you don't think the Orioles losing there most productive HR hitter, the clutch & leadership of Markakis & a reliever like Miller is not going to hurt them? A LOT! And that Boston's new improvements are going to help them A LOT!? If that's what you're saying than you should seriously consider following another sport because you know jack-shit about baseball. IF that's what you're saying. And I really hope its not.

 

[blgridesagain]

...lmao... to even you it should be obvious that Baltimore is not as strong as last year and that Boston is stronger than last year...please, learn the game.

Baltimore should be getting their fine 3b, C and 1b Davis back, those players missed large chunks of the season.....and the last time I checked, they had the 3rd best bullpen (era) last year. And don't think they don't have other options to pitch in and help in other areas.

Boston? Hanley will be playing LF so I guess we can expect GG caliber defense from LF, lol , and since when has Masterson been ace-like quality?
Porcello? Good pitcher, but he's no Lester.

Last but not least, the Yankees are the team which has added within the division the most dominant pitcher (Miller) which now gives them probably the two most dominant relievers in the division.


Learn the game.

 

[Rick2583]

Baltimore should be getting their fine 3b, C and 1b Davis back, those players missed large chunks of the season.....and the last time I checked, they had the 3rd best bullpen (era) last year. And don't think they don't have other options to pitch in and help in other areas.

Boston? Hanley will be playing LF so I guess we can expect GG caliber defense from LF, lol , and since when has Masterson been ace-like quality?
Porcello? Good pitcher, but he's no Lester.

Last but not least, the Yankees are the team which has added within the division the most dominant pitcher (Miller) which now gives them probably the two most dominant relievers in the division.


Learn the game.

WTF!? Why the hell would the Red Sox put Hanley in LF when he's NEVER played the position?

I'm sorry but Ron's right....................................learn the game. Holy shit.

 

[blgridesagain]

Here's your Justin Masterson:
Last year - 5.88 ERA, 1.56 WHIP
Career - 4.24 ERA, 1.38 WHIP

Whooptey dam doo! The Redsox added Masterson. lol

 

[yankeesince59]

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1) I'm also well aware he is a platoon bench player....and he adds good depth and has been productive which usually helps a team....as you may know, teams need good bench players to pitch in.

...then why in hell did you feel the need to point out something I had already said in the post before?

2) Call it whatever you'd like, but when the season starts, unlike last year, Headley will the starting 3b.

...I already call it what I liked and you felt the need to dispute it.

3) I never said anyone here said run production would be WORSE.....but I seem to be the ONLY one saying it would/should be considerably BETTER.
So stop putting words in my mouth.

...uhhh, yes, you did...look again. "Yep, is kinda amazing how some just overlooked a LH with good power - in Yankee Stadium- but then again, this may also explain why some believe the Yankees' run production won't improve from last year. lol"


Now please address the fancy links you provided which have the Orioles in last place with 78 wins and the Redsox winning 88 games......

And you have a problem with ME picking the Yanks to win approx 90 games?

WTF is your problem? lol

...uhh, I don't have a problem ... other than you, I don't recall anyone else picking the Yanx to win 90 games. But yeah, everyone else is the one with "the problem".

 

[yankeesince59]

Baltimore should be getting their fine 3b, C and 1b Davis back, those players missed large chunks of the season.....and the last time I checked, they had the 3rd best bullpen (era) last year. And don't think they don't have other options to pitch in and help in other areas.

...uhhh, Davis?...you mean the same Davis who hit .196 last year and struck out once every 2.6 ABs?...lmao.
...their 3Bman and Catcher are coming off injuries...and what about the players they lost that have not been replaced?...Markakis, Miller, Cruz, etc.?


Boston? Hanley will be playing LF so I guess we can expect GG caliber defense from LF, lol , and since when has Masterson been ace-like quality?
Porcello? Good pitcher, but he's no Lester.

...since you love to dwell on offense, why are you pointing to Hanley's defence?...nevermind, don't answer. How about Panda?...did you forget about him or do you believe he's not an upgrade from last year?

Last but not least, the Yankees are the team which has added within the division the most dominant pitcher (Miller) which now gives them probably the two most dominant relievers in the division.

...like I said, you really should learn the game...what good does a good bull pen do when the starters have a hard time getting out of the 5th inning?...the bull pen will likely be burnt out by June.

 

[bern_baby_bern]

+ Gregorious. When the alternative was Brendan Ryan it's a pickup to be hopeful about.

+ Eovoldi. Not the big name and was through a trade but maybe Rothschild can work with the raw young fireballer. McCarthy came over from AZ with a 5+ ERA.

 

[blgridesagain]

WTF!? Why the hell would the Red Sox put Hanley in LF when he's NEVER played the position?

I'm sorry but Ron's right....................................learn the game. Holy shit.

Sorry but, from the outset of signing Hanley there was talk of moving Hanley to LF partly because of his athletisim and also a fellow named Xander Boegarts....you may have heard of him....he's one of their more highly regarded young players who HAPPENS TO PLAY SS , and oh by the way....they've already won a WS with him.....
.....but don't listen to me....I'll include this statement after they signed him.
__________________________________

Ramirez has no major league experience in the outfield, but Cherington and the Red Sox are confident he'll make a smooth transition to his new position.



Maybe you should go back and consult with your master. Lmao

 

[Yankeefan5545]

If anyone doubts the ifs and realities that this team faces go on line and check the availability of seats available at Steinbrenner Field. As long as I've been in this area ( 2002 until present) ST tickets went like hotcakes. I just ran a check and there are still plenty of seats available. As I view this years team I see ifs in the starting staff, the improved defense to the left is offset by doubt on the right Drew & Tex. Beltran in right defensively?? damn I wish they'd have kept Ichiro, Ellsbury and Gardner are fine in the outfield but I wish Gardner would run bases instead of standing on them. Pen should be fine, catching is in good hands but I hope Mac hits better ditto Beltran. Boston & Toronto have improved, not sure how I'd think of Baltimore still good but we'll see. And we must remember that CC wets his pants when he sees Boston or Tampa uniforms. In addition I believe that the Eastern Division is not the strongest AL Division. And while other teams have their problems I still don't believe that the Yankees have addressed theirs in a manner that we fans have come to expect. On the first day of ST I enter year number 60 as a fan, I don't think I'll be singing "It was a very good year this season unless a lot of manna falls from heaven.

 

[yankeesince59]

+ Gregorious. When the alternative was Brendan Ryan it's a pickup to be hopeful about.

+ Eovoldi. Not the big name and was through a trade but maybe Rothschild can work with the raw young fireballer. McCarthy came over from AZ with a 5+ ERA.

...but if they were gonna sign Drew anyway, why not let Drew play SS and keep Greene in the rotation? I hope DiDi improves but he's got a long way to go. And now it looks like we have Drew and DiDi to be part of the new "black hole" on offense.
...they could have also forgone Eovaldi and kept Prado and Phelps.

 

[yankeesince59]

If anyone doubts the ifs and realities that this team faces go on line and check the availability of seats available at Steinbrenner Field. As long as I've been in this area ( 2002 until present) ST tickets went like hotcakes. I just ran a check and there are still plenty of seats available. As I view this years team I see ifs in the starting staff, the improved defense to the left is offset by doubt on the right Drew & Tex. Beltran in right defensively?? damn I wish they'd have kept Ichiro, Ellsbury and Gardner are fine in the outfield but I wish Gardner would run bases instead of standing on them. Pen should be fine, catching is in good hands but I hope Mac hits better ditto Beltran. Boston & Toronto have improved, not sure how I'd think of Baltimore still good but we'll see. And we must remember that CC wets his pants when he sees Boston or Tampa uniforms. In addition I believe that the Eastern Division is not the strongest AL Division. And while other teams have their problems I still don't believe that the Yankees have addressed theirs in a manner that we fans have come to expect. On the first day of ST I enter year number 60 as a fan, I don't think I'll be singing "It was a very good year this season unless a lot of manna falls from heaven.

...well said. But I do think that early on the ARod circus should give ST tickets an initial spike...but not for long.

 

[Rick2583]

...but if they were gonna sign Drew anyway, why not let Drew play SS and keep Greene in the rotation? I hope DiDi improves but he's got a long way to go. And now it looks like we have Drew and DiDi to be part of the new "black hole" on offense.
...they could have also forgone Eovaldi and kept Prado and Phelps.

All excellent points Ron. And Michael I'm in full agreement BUT............apparently we're all wrong & blg is right.

Head.................................................................................meet wall.

 

[bern_baby_bern]

...but if they were gonna sign Drew anyway, why not let Drew play SS and keep Greene in the rotation? I hope DiDi improves but he's got a long way to go. And now it looks like we have Drew and DiDi to be part of the new "black hole" on offense.
...they could have also forgone Eovaldi and kept Prado and Phelps.

I'm not going to profess to understanding the game plan with the Yanks but I can see the upside being greater for both DiDi and Eovaldi. Phelps was what he was but I liked Prado. It's definitely different to see the Yanks pushing for some youth and not making a big splash in free agency. I don't mind them not making the big splash and handcuffing themselves with the back end of the monster contracts but signing Drew confused me. Make some pseudo-youth movement and go in to spring training with a Refsnyder/Pirella duel and I buy into it a little easier.