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I see no irony.

It took nature a few hundred million years to make the first primitive form of life. We're looking at scientists trying to come up with a process that works within hours or minutes.
 
Denny Crane said:
It took nature a few hundred million years to make the first primitive form of life.
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Of course, that's the way to give the illusion of plausibility. More time does not increase the chances though, in fact you can make a strong argument that it decreases the chances. Plus there's no proof or evidence, as always.
 
OdenRoyLMA2 said:
Of course, that's the way to give the illusion of plausibility. More time does not increase the chances though, in fact you can make a strong argument that it decreases the chances. Plus there's no proof or evidence, as always.
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More time clearly increases the chances.

Think of dice. If you get one roll, your chances of rolling snake eyes is 1 in 36. If you get 36 rolls, you'll likely roll snake eyes once.

If you get millions of rolls, you'll certainly roll quite a few snake eyes.

Maybe the right combination of things for life to form takes 200M years worth of rolls.
 
Denny Crane said:
More time clearly increases the chances.

Think of dice. If you get one roll, your chances of rolling snake eyes is 1 in 36. If you get 36 rolls, you'll likely roll snake eyes once.

If you get millions of rolls, you'll certainly roll quite a few snake eyes.

Maybe the right combination of things for life to form takes 200M years worth of rolls.
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And yet there's still no evidence that life can spontaneously arrive from non-life. Explosions destroy, you know kill things. They don't create perfect order, life and inter-working systems. This is preschool knowledge.

Also, giving nature billions of years doesn't lead to life. Because nature disorders, not orders, it doesn't organize things (as stated in the Second Law of Thermodynamics). Also, as things grow, they lose energy. It pretty much defeats the whole premise of life generating from non-living matter.
 
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It is the disorganization that makes it so you roll dice 36 times and never get snake eyes. It's pure random luck.

200 M years is a LOT of rolls of the dice.
 
And yet...it still doesn't prove that life can even come from non-life. And of course you'd need to throw on millions upon billions of years to make your theory appear more plausible to the laymen. But really you're playing with a whole lotta chance and virtually no evidence. Where did the dice come from?
 
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The dice came from the cloud of gas that gravity pulled together to form the solar system.

That gas came from the death of an earlier star that fused hydrogen and helium into heavier elements, particularly carbon. There's carbon in every organic molecule.
 
Denny Crane said:
The dice came from the cloud of gas that gravity pulled together to form the solar system.

That gas came from the death of an earlier star that fused hydrogen and helium into heavier elements, particularly carbon. There's carbon in every organic molecule.
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You're doing a good job dodging the points and questions, and you're digging yourself further into a hole. I like to base my opinions on where evidence lies, not unprovable theories by fallible men that change every 20 years. It's funny, I used to be of the atheistic belief that the big bang was an uncaused event and that galaxies and solar systems formed from nebula's and galactic gas clouds. Then I came to know reason.
 
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Denny Crane said:
More time clearly increases the chances.

Think of dice. If you get one roll, your chances of rolling snake eyes is 1 in 36. If you get 36 rolls, you'll likely roll snake eyes once.

If you get millions of rolls, you'll certainly roll quite a few snake eyes.

Maybe the right combination of things for life to form takes 200M years worth of rolls.
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But the world is only 6,000 years old, so that's nonsense.
 
MARIS61 said:
But the world is only 6,000 years old, so that's nonsense.
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So what's you take on Christians that actually believe the Universe is 17 billions of years old; or that the Earth is 5 billion year?
 
e_blazer said:
I’ve never been more cereal in my life. Totally flakes and nuts. It’s my birthday today so pour me a bowl of fruit loops and stick a candle in it.
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Happy Birthday! Did you see the post in the main forum about the Celtics game?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
We already know how this story ends.

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A powerful monster with very strong scales over his entire body and with large sharp teeth dripping with drool and powerful long claws that can rip a man apart in seconds?
 
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