OT: Best 3rd Option in the History of the NBA!

[THE HCP]

I can't remember a player as good as Chris Bosh being the third best player on his team ever!

 

[Minstrel]

LaMarcus Aldridge.

Traitor.

Edit: Or Nic Batum. Traitor.

 

[PHXBlazer1]

He's a great third option, but I still believe in my heart of hearts that he's one of the most overrated players in the NBA. And I really just don't like the lapdog (thanks SVG)

 

[Natebishop3]

I can't remember a player as good as Chris Bosh being the third best player on his team ever!

This game is easy.

The Lakers had four All-Stars one year with Eddie Jones, Kobe, Shaq, and Nick Van Exel.

The Mavs had Nash, Finley, Dirk, and Jamison one year.

Hell, just look at Worthy as the third best on the Lakers with Kareem and Magic. I don't think it's really that uncommon, and Bosh isn't THAT good.

 

[Mamba]

Bosh is extremely overrated.

Give me Gasol's ability to create his own shot, mid range, rebounding, ability to play C, ability to use the left hand, quickness, etc... over Bosh's game any day.

I'm salivating for our chance to meet in the Finals. I hope everyone on both teams stays healthy because if Big Drew is healthy, I'm loving our chances.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

This game is easy.

The Lakers had four All-Stars one year with Eddie Jones, Kobe, Shaq, and Nick Van Exel.

The Mavs had Nash, Finley, Dirk, and Jamison one year.

Hell, just look at Worthy as the third best on the Lakers with Kareem and Magic. I don't think it's really that uncommon, and Bosh isn't THAT good.

KARMALONE!

 

[Minstrel]

Bosh is extremely overrated.

Give me Gasol's ability to create his own shot, mid range, rebounding, ability to play C, ability to use the left hand, quickness, etc... over Bosh's game any day.

I agree, but Gasol is LA's best player. Bosh is only Miami's third-best player.

 

[Natebishop3]

Bosh is extremely overrated.

Give me Gasol's ability to create his own shot, mid range, rebounding, ability to play C, ability to use the left hand, quickness, etc... over Bosh's game any day.

I'm salivating for our chance to meet in the Finals. I hope everyone on both teams stays healthy because if Big Drew is healthy, I'm loving our chances.

LOL... Miami won't be in the Finals next season. Not unless they have eight players on the court every night (counting the refs).

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I agree, but Gasol is LA's best player. Bosh is only Miami's third-best player.

zing!

 

[Mamba]

I agree, but Gasol is LA's best player. Bosh is only Miami's third-best player.

Aha, that was a good one. Repped!

 

[rocketeer]

bosh is a top 15 player in the nba. he is that good. when's the last time a team had three top 15 players on it?

 

[rocketeer]

LOL... Miami won't be in the Finals next season. Not unless they have eight players on the court every night (counting the refs).

who is going to stop them in the east? unless they pick up absolutely no one to play inside and have to start pittman there, the only team i could see knocking them off before the finals is the magic.

 

[Natebishop3]

who is going to stop them in the east? unless they pick up absolutely no one to play inside and have to start pittman there, the only team i could see knocking them off before the finals is the magic.

I guess we'll have to wait and see who they fill out the roster with I guess.

 

[KingSpeed]

I just got here. Is this thread about James Worthy? Who is Bosh? Has he won a playoff series before? Was he even in the playoffs last year?

 

[DynastYWarrioR6]

Bosh is extremely overrated.

Give me Gasol's ability to create his own shot, mid range, rebounding, ability to play C, ability to use the left hand, quickness, etc... over Bosh's game any day.

I'm salivating for our chance to meet in the Finals. I hope everyone on both teams stays healthy because if Big Drew is healthy, I'm loving our chances.

I always love to see some amazing C!

 

[maxiep]

I can't remember a player as good as Chris Bosh being the third best player on his team ever!

Elgin Baylor (L*kers). Moses Malone (Sixers). You do have to go back a ways.

 

[maxiep]

Bosh is extremely overrated.

Give me Gasol's ability to create his own shot, mid range, rebounding, ability to play C, ability to use the left hand, quickness, etc... over Bosh's game any day.

I'm salivating for our chance to meet in the Finals. I hope everyone on both teams stays healthy because if Big Drew is healthy, I'm loving our chances.

The Western Conference Finals are the best you can hope for.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Bosh is going to have to make the transition from star to role player - they require different types of skills. It's a very difficult transition to make, many small school college stars have the same trouble. He also won't like being the third wheel, because he wants respect rather than to just play the game (unlike Worthy, for example).

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Elgin Baylor (L*kers). Moses Malone (Sixers). You do have to go back a ways.

A previous poster gave you James Worthy, who was better than Bosh. Hell, if Andrew Bynum stayed healthy, HE might be better than Bosh. Dennis Rodman was better than Bosh (I'm not joking - in terms of what he brought to the team, and because he was perhaps the best ever rebounder (pound for pound) and an amazing defender, he was). Hell, Bosh is a shorter, more versatile Horace Grant.

Go back and watch some of the recent USA performances. Bosh is pretty much invisible.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

who is going to stop them in the east? unless they pick up absolutely no one to play inside and have to start pittman there, the only team i could see knocking them off before the finals is the magic.

The Celtics of 2008 could have handled them. They might just be past their sell-by date now though.

 

[LameR]

Bosh is going to have to make the transition from star to role player - they require different types of skills.

I'm honestly considering re-evaluating LeBron to some degree as well. He's gone from someone who you considered the number 1 guy, leader, possible GOAT, to in my mind...potentially a very very very good player who is better in a supporting role (Pippen on 'roids without the defensive prowess, Kobe to Shaq).

 

[mook]

Has there ever been a case before where three guys coming off 25+ PER seasons played on the same team? James Worthy only had one season with a PER at or above 20--and it was 20.0. Rodman never got above 17, although he was always about defense. Steve Nash's highest PER in Dallas was 22.

PER isn't the be-all-end-all, but Chris Bosh is a legit star player. It amazes me he's getting compared to Horace Grant in this thread.

Here's an interesting statistics-based article from Basketball-Reference.com:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=6859

APM paints an even rosier picture for the "Holy Trinity" (or whatever we're going to call them)... Last year, James had a +18.52 rating, 2nd only to Dwight Howard, and Wade was 4th with +16.09, while Bosh had "only" a +6.97 rating. Mark them down for even +10, +6, and +5, respectively (their 5-year low-water marks when healthy), and with Hollinger's expected minutes this team would have a +7.0 differential, good for 59 wins. And remember, that's if they are as bad as they've been in 5 years, surrounded by nothing by the cream of the NBDL's crop.
If they play like they did last year, the Heat's differential would be a monstrous, Redeem Team-esque +21.2, which I can't even give a wins estimate for because it breaks the linear equation that relates efficiency differential to winning % (it would have them winning more than 100% of their games). No team has ever had that kind of performance in the history if the NBA, meaning there is a pretty decent chance they'd obliterate the '96 Bulls' record for most wins in a season.
So, suffice to say that if the Heat manage to snag James in addition to Wade and Bosh, they're going to be a legitimately great team -- the best in the East, in fact, provided everyone stays healthy. And that's the worst-case scenario... If they play at the level they did last season, we could have a chance to witness something very special in Miami next season, a team performance unlike any in the NBA's history.

 

[rocketeer]

Go back and watch some of the recent USA performances. Bosh is pretty much invisible.

bosh was definitely not invisible for team USA. he wasn't a scorer. he was a role player. and he did a great job defensively. he was the best big man defender on the team. and while the international game is definitely different, his willingness and ability to do that seems like a good indication that he'll be willing to do more of that in miami when he's playing alongside 2 elite scorers.

 

[rocketeer]

The Celtics of 2008 could have handled them. They might just be past their sell-by date now though.

the 2008 celtics don't exist anymore, so i don't really worry about that.

 

[rocketeer]

I'm honestly considering re-evaluating LeBron to some degree as well. He's gone from someone who you considered the number 1 guy, leader, possible GOAT, to in my mind...potentially a very very very good player who is better in a supporting role (Pippen on 'roids without the defensive prowess, Kobe to Shaq).

you're overthinking it. lebron is still the best player in the league. if the best player in the league is really just a 2nd option, what is the rest of the league?

 

[44Thrilla]

Ray Allen?

 

[MARIS61]

Jerome Kersey.

 

[THE HCP]

Ray Allen?

Nah, Ray is good, but about 6 years past his prime.