OT: Bucks sign Gooden to five year 32 million dollar deal

[Nikolokolus]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-goodenbucks070110

So that's what 6.4 million a year will get you? Wow.

 

[CelticKing]

I thought signings cannot happen until a week later?

But yeah thats a lot of money for a bench guy IMO.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

Uh.. an interesting signing to be sure.

 

[Sug]

and they have a GM...

 

[maxiep]

WTF are they thinking? Way to set the market, Herb.

 

[axs88]

and they have a GM...

2009-2010 executive of the year John Hammond. Wow.

 

[Sug]

2009-2010 executive of the year John Hammond. Wow.

Wow they have a former Mr. All NBA GM even, I wonder if he wore his sash as he signed the contract.

 

[LittleAlex]

2009-2010 executive of the year John Hammond. Wow.

You look like a genius one minute and a moron the next.

This is Hammond's time to look like a moron.

 

[CelticKing]

Gooden getting 5 yrs 32million => David Lee getting max from some team

LOL

 

[maxiep]

2009-2010 executive of the year John Hammond. Wow.

Is that the same John Hammond that turned down our job and left us with John Nash? I wonder who the John Hammonds of this GM search will be?

 

[BGrantFan]

What's a fair price for a 17ish PER PF who put up 17/11 per/36 and shoots 48%?

I suppose we could quibble with the length of the contract, but per year, it seems like good value for that type of production.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Ya, shitty signing

http://www.basketball-reference.com...m=0&p1=aldrila01&y1=2010&p2=goodedr01&y2=2010

 

[maxiep]

What's a fair price for a 17ish PER PF who put up 17/11 per/36 and shoots 48%?

I suppose we could quibble with the length of the contract, but per year, it seems like good value for that type of production.

It's more than stats. There's a reason that a player as talented as Gooden has burned through more teams than Paul Shirley.

 

[BGrantFan]

It's more than stats. There's a reason that a player as talented as Gooden has burned through more teams than Paul Shirley.

What's the reason? $6 million/per seems very reasonable to me.

 

[maxiep]

What's the reason? $6 million/per seems very reasonable to me.

For a backup PF with a history of being a lockerroom cancer? The annual amount isn't so egregious as the length. I'll bet he's not a Buck in two years. Gooden and Scott Skiles? Oil and water.

 

[BGrantFan]

For a backup PF with a history of being a lockerroom cancer? The annual amount isn't so egregious as the length. I'll bet he's not a Buck in two years. Gooden and Scott Skiles? Oil and water.

Whether he's with the Bucks or not is another topic, but production wise, this signing is an absolute steal for what Gooden brings on the court. In another thread, posters are pondering signing Wes Matthews for $4 million. Now THAT is ridiculous IMO.

 

[Nikolokolus]

For a backup PF with a history of being a lockerroom cancer? The annual amount isn't so egregious as the length. I'll bet he's not a Buck in two years. Gooden and Scott Skiles? Oil and water.

I completely agree. The per year amount wouldn't be so bad if it were for 3 years, but a five year commitment for a guy who has habitually driven his coaches nuts wherever he's gone is insane at that price..

 

[hasoos]

It's more than stats. There's a reason that a player as talented as Gooden has burned through more teams than Paul Shirley.

Possibly because they are all alike, in other words, team mates tend to hate their guts.

 

[maxiep]

http://twitter.com/alexkennedynba

Just got this text from an agent: "What the hell was John Hammond smoking?!"

 

[BGrantFan]

http://twitter.com/alexkennedynba

He's thinking he got a 17 PER player at way below market value?

 

[maxiep]

He's thinking he got a 17 PER player at way below market value?

Fair enough. You think it's a good deal; I hope you and John Hammond are happy together, because right now you may be the only two in the country that believe it. Even Drew Gooden's agent doesn't think it's a steal for the Bucks. You don't sign this early if you think there's a better offer on the horizon.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Fair enough. You think it's a good deal; I hope you and John Hammond are happy together, because right now you may be the only two in the country that believe it. Even Drew Gooden's agent doesn't think it's a steal for the Bucks. You don't sign this early if you think there's a better offer on the horizon.

Winnah, winnah chicken dinnah

 

[BGrantFan]

Fair enough. You think it's a good deal; I hope you and John Hammond are happy together, because right now you may be the only two in the country that believe it. Even Drew Gooden's agent doesn't think it's a steal for the Bucks. You don't sign this early if you think there's a better offer on the horizon.

I never said it was a good deal. I said it was a fair-to-good price in terms of production. If hyperbole didn't exist, we'd all be boring.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I never said it was a good deal. I said it was a fair-to-good price in terms of production. If hyperbole didn't exist, we'd all be boring.

So what's your excuse?

 

[maxiep]

I never said it was a good deal. I said it was a fair-to-good price in terms of production. If hyperbole didn't exist, we'd all be boring.

So, when you spoon John Hammond, are you in front or back? You're still alone with him in even that assessment.

 

[BGrantFan]

So what's your excuse?

I use hyperbole a lot. So do most posters here. I didn't in this thread, though.

I already said (before you did) that the length of the deal is worthy of debate. I think $6 million/per for a 17 PER player is a good price in terms of on-court production. I don't know what is so off-the-wall about that opinion.

 

[BGrantFan]

So, when you spoon John Hammond, are you in front or back? You're still alone with him in even that assessment.

Ridiculous. 17 PER/$6 million/per is on-court value. You had to lie about what I posted, and now instead of manning up and admintting you misrepresented my position, you build another strawman.

 

[maxiep]

I use hyperbole a lot. So do most posters here. I didn't in this thread, though.

I already said (before you did) that the length of the deal is worthy of debate. I think $6 million/per for a 17 PER player is a good price in terms of on-court production. I don't know what is so off-the-wall about that opinion.

Because that 17 PER is connected to Dwight Gooden.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Imaginary Cap Space strikes again! The market sets the price!

 

[alex42083]

I thought Gooden was much older than 28. Still a very underwhelming signing, as if the Bucks made Drew Gooden their No. 1 priority in free agency? Yuck. And the Bucks will still go nowhere.