OT: Congratulations to Paul Allen (and the NFC Champ Seahawks)

[Blazer Fanatic]

seattletimes/John Lock

Paul Allen raised the 12 man flag.

Then he raised the NFC Championship trophy.

AP Photo/Ted S. Warren

Congratulations!

 

[Strenuus]

That guy looks like he's getting pushed over.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

That guy looks like he's getting pushed over.

LOL I just noticed that, even though he's wearing a neon green vest. Pretty sure it's a camera man. Or maybe that's why everyone was cheering?

 

[OneLifeToLive]

seattletimes/John Lock

Paul Allen raised the 12 man flag.

Then he raised the NFC Championship trophy.

AP Photo/Ted S. Warren

Congratulations!

He's a good owner and I think he has learned from his mistakes. His last few years have been gems with good decision after good decision. Calculated, good decisions.

I'd like to see him win in both sports this year. It's deserved.

 

[santeesioux]

Now buy an NHL team and move it here.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Now buy an NHL team and move it here.

Give McGowan a lil time. I expect it to happen

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

He's a good owner and I think he has learned from his mistakes. His last few years have been gems with good decision after good decision. Calculated, good decisions.

I'd like to see him win in both sports this year. It's deserved.

Ya. I think he realized that when he knew things weren't working, the answer wasn't to try to correct it himself, but to hire people that could. Some owners never learn. He reaping the rewards, and for all the shit that's been tossed at him over the years, I could not be happier for him.

He could be a stunt double for pre-electrical burned, Star Wars "Emperor", but that's beside the point.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Ya. I think he realized that when he knew things weren't working, the answer wasn't to try to correct it himself, but to hire people that could. Some owners never learn. He reaping the rewards, and for all the shit that's been tossed at him over the years, I could not be happier for him.

He could be a stunt double for pre-electrical burned, Star Wars "Emperor", but that's beside the point.

There has to be more to this than just deciding to take a seat in the back. Owners for years have taken back seat roles and let the football, basketball and baseball people do their jobs. But not all of them have had this amount of success and such a little time. It wouldn't surprise me if he has a formula he is working under. Whatever he is doing, it's working for both organizations

 

[TheBlueDoggy]

I recall reading in his book Idea Man, that he basically admitted to trusting the wrong people, and making what should have been logical business decisions more about his personal, tinkering desires. It sounds like he realized he made a lot of mistakes, and didn't listen to people who knew what they were talking about, and was trying to change that. I've always liked Paul as an owner, and I've always felt he had the best intentions at heart. However, it's clear he is human like everyone else, and he didn't exactly enter the sports business knowing anything more about it than most people. It's been a long learning experience, for a guy who's used to throwing money/power at problems. I'm glad it's all coming together though.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

There has to be more to this than just deciding to take a seat in the back. Owners for years have taken back seat roles and let the football, basketball and baseball people do their jobs. But not all of them have had this amount of success and such a little time. It wouldn't surprise me if he has a formula he is working under. Whatever he is doing, it's working for both organizations

Taking a back seat is the last step. Hiring the right people to do the job of GM and coach (etc.) is what he's really done a solid job at. Too many hire guys, and then micro-manage instead of letting them do their job. If they aren't doing the job, you fire them and hire someone who can. He made some really great hires in two separate sports, and THEN took a back seat. And in that respect, he should get a majority of some well deserved credit.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

I recall reading in his book Idea Man, that he basically admitted to trusting the wrong people, and making what should have been logical business decisions more about his personal, tinkering desires. It sounds like he realized he made a lot of mistakes, and didn't listen to people who knew what they were talking about, and was trying to change that. I've always liked Paul as an owner, and I've always felt he had the best intentions at heart. However, it's clear he is human like everyone else, and he didn't exactly enter the sports business knowing anything more about it than most people. It's been a long learning experience, for a guy who's used to throwing money/power at problems. I'm glad it's all coming together though.

I never read it. Thanks for the insight. That was my perception when I commented earlier. And I could not agree with you more, that I believe Allen has always maintained good intentions; but rather than paving a way to hell, he's learned from the past and is leading his teams down the path to the Promise Land. lol

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Taking a back seat is the last step. Hiring the right people to do the job of GM and coach (etc.) is what he's really done a solid job at. Too many hire guys, and then micro-manage instead of letting them do their job. If they aren't doing the job, you fire them and hire someone who can. He made some really great hires in two separate sports, and THEN took a back seat. And in that respect, he should get a majority of some well deserved credit.

I too think he deserves the credit for what is going on if not a great share of the credit. The culture starts with him. And he has made some changes. I absolutely love the two dudes running this organization. McGowan has made the business part a fun thing to follow.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

LMMFAO OMG I was just gonna post something similar. Well played.

 

[fumanchu]

Good for the Chickens, but I'll be rooting for the Broncos because that punk hood rat Richard Sherman doesn't deserve a superbowl.

 

[Strenuus]

Just think if it was Tim Tebow who led a team to the Super Bowl. Oh man...

 

[OneLifeToLive]

Good for the Chickens, but I'll be rooting for the Broncos because that punk hood rat Richard Sherman doesn't deserve a superbowl.

Meh...think of all the players, personal, executives, ownership and fans that do. Don't let that one player cause you to root differently.

 

[fumanchu]

Meh...think of all the players, personal, executives, ownership and fans that do. Don't let that one player cause you to root differently.

Well I was pretty indifferent towards the Hawks to begin with. I just wanted to see them beat the 9ers because I hate them, but Shermans shenanigans reminded me that I hate the Chickens (and all Washington teams for that matter).
So I hope Manning destroys them (sorry Paul).

 

[jlprk]

Without cable, I'll be watching via my usual semi-legal sites.

 

[maxiep]

Has there ever been an owner that has won two championships in one season? Perhaps Jack Kent Cooke when he owned the L*kers and Kings?

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Good for the Chickens, but I'll be rooting for the Broncos because that punk hood rat Richard Sherman doesn't deserve a superbowl.

I don’t want to turn this into a big debate, but I do find this a really ironic an interesting social aspect of sports in general, and has a few thoughts on this.

We, as fans, are starved for candid, real emotion and insight from players. And when we get it, the idea that some fans would complain about it is laughable to me. We can’t have it both ways.

Can you imagine if Lance Stevenson was talking trash about LeBron being mediocre? And then LeBron has a mic shoved in his face after just dismantling the Pacers and Lance in Eastern Conference Finals in the finals? Now, put LeBron on a football field who, instead of shooting jump shots, smashes guys into the ground at full speed for a living and ask him to tell us how he really feels. Ask him to be honest about how he really feels. People are upset if he says, “Medeocre? Don’t ever disrespect me. I’m the best.”? He’s not wrong. We should be thanking him as fans for showing real emotion, not complaining about “stay classy.”

Durant complains because he’s called the #2 in the NBA and not #1. It’s ok for KD to cry about not being considered #1, even on his team, but not Sherman who IS CLEARLY #1 and doesn’t get nearly the amount of respect from even other players? Because why, KD is more soft spoken and doesn’t play a violent sport?

I looked up Sherman’s stats and he is hands down the best guy at his position in the NFL two years running, his 3rd year in the NFL… out of STANFORD. This season the Seahawks defense forced a turnover every 5 plays, and Sherman had the most interceptions AND the most forced incompletions of any player in the NFL. What do people honestly expect from a guy that doesn’t get even half the respect that Durant does from other players, let alone from the tabloid sports media?

Also ironic, how can anyone be upset with Sherman punking Kapernickle or any 49er (Crabgrass included) who talk smack, when Crapernik punked Cam Newton the week before IN Carolina mocking his superman celebration after the game was out of hand and continuing to be smug about it in his post-game interview? How is it not anything but FAN-tastic as a fan to get to see that play out?

What is all the fuss about? The only answers that make sense to me stem from either: A) ignorance B) your team lost. AmIright?

I just found this whole situation funny, and the aftermath reaction fascinating.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Has there ever been an owner that has won two championships in one season? Perhaps Jack Kent Cooke when he owned the L*kers and Kings?

Baby steps, 1 football game and at least 58 more basketball games yet to play.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I don’t want to turn this into a big debate, but I do find this a really ironic an interesting social aspect of sports in general, and has a few thoughts on this.

We, as fans, are starved for candid, real emotion and insight from players. And when we get it, the idea that some fans would complain about it is laughable to me. We can’t have it both ways.

Can you imagine if Lance Stevenson was talking trash about LeBron being mediocre? And then LeBron has a mic shoved in his face after just dismantling the Pacers and Lance in Eastern Conference Finals in the finals? Now, put LeBron on a football field who, instead of shooting jump shots, smashes guys into the ground at full speed for a living and ask him to tell us how he really feels. Ask him to be honest about how he really feels. People are upset if he says, “Medeocre? Don’t ever disrespect me. I’m the best.”? He’s not wrong. We should be thanking him as fans for showing real emotion, not complaining about “stay classy.”

Durant complains because he’s called the #2 in the NBA and not #1. It’s ok for KD to cry about not being considered #1, even on his team, but not Sherman who IS CLEARLY #1 and doesn’t get nearly the amount of respect from even other players? Because why, KD is more soft spoken and doesn’t play a violent sport?

I looked up Sherman’s stats and he is hands down the best guy at his position in the NFL two years running, his 3rd year in the NFL… out of STANFORD. This season the Seahawks defense forced a turnover every 5 plays, and Sherman had the most interceptions AND the most forced incompletions of any player in the NFL. What do people honestly expect from a guy that doesn’t get even half the respect that Durant does from other players, let alone from the tabloid sports media?

Also ironic, how can anyone be upset with Sherman punking Kapernickle or any 49er (Crabgrass included) who talk smack, when Crapernik punked Cam Newton the week before IN Carolina mocking his superman celebration after the game was out of hand and continuing to be smug about it in his post-game interview? How is it not anything but FAN-tastic as a fan to get to see that play out?

What is all the fuss about? The only answers that make sense to me stem from either: A) ignorance B) your team lost. AmIright?

I just found this whole situation funny, and the aftermath reaction fascinating.

Candid != good, smart, or respectable.

I'm not a fan of either team, and Sherman's display was awful and shines poorly on the whole NFL.

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[Blazer Fanatic]

This post is insufferable.

Candid != good, smart, or respectable.

I'm not a fan of either team, and Sherman's display was awful and shines poorly on the whole NFL.

Candid adjective

Truthful and straightforward - frank

Characterized by openness and sincerity of expression - unreservedly straightforward

Not posed or rehearsed

expressing opinions and feelings in an honest and sincere way



If you are quite literally never going to offer anything other than to troll my every post, at least be "candid" about it... of course using your made-up definition.

OK fan boy?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I looked up Sherman’s stats and he is hands down the best guy at his position in the NFL two years running, his 3rd year in the NFL… out of STANFORD.

Are you a Stanford fan?

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Are you a Stanford fan?

WOW NO! lmmafo

Graduated from A&M. Gig 'em AGGIES!!!

 

[oldmangrouch]

As a Blazer/Niner fan I am viewing all this with mixed emotion.

On the Sherman issue - there is supposedly bad blood between him and Harbaugh. (to the point he almost quit football at Stanford) I imagine the outburst has been building for some time.

 

[TheBlueDoggy]

I don’t want to turn this into a big debate, but I do find this a really ironic an interesting social aspect of sports in general, and has a few thoughts on this.

We, as fans, are starved for candid, real emotion and insight from players. And when we get it, the idea that some fans would complain about it is laughable to me. We can’t have it both ways.

Can you imagine if Lance Stevenson was talking trash about LeBron being mediocre? And then LeBron has a mic shoved in his face after just dismantling the Pacers and Lance in Eastern Conference Finals in the finals? Now, put LeBron on a football field who, instead of shooting jump shots, smashes guys into the ground at full speed for a living and ask him to tell us how he really feels. Ask him to be honest about how he really feels. People are upset if he says, “Medeocre? Don’t ever disrespect me. I’m the best.”? He’s not wrong. We should be thanking him as fans for showing real emotion, not complaining about “stay classy.”

Durant complains because he’s called the #2 in the NBA and not #1. It’s ok for KD to cry about not being considered #1, even on his team, but not Sherman who IS CLEARLY #1 and doesn’t get nearly the amount of respect from even other players? Because why, KD is more soft spoken and doesn’t play a violent sport?

I looked up Sherman’s stats and he is hands down the best guy at his position in the NFL two years running, his 3rd year in the NFL… out of STANFORD. This season the Seahawks defense forced a turnover every 5 plays, and Sherman had the most interceptions AND the most forced incompletions of any player in the NFL. What do people honestly expect from a guy that doesn’t get even half the respect that Durant does from other players, let alone from the tabloid sports media?

Also ironic, how can anyone be upset with Sherman punking Kapernickle or any 49er (Crabgrass included) who talk smack, when Crapernik punked Cam Newton the week before IN Carolina mocking his superman celebration after the game was out of hand and continuing to be smug about it in his post-game interview? How is it not anything but FAN-tastic as a fan to get to see that play out?

What is all the fuss about? The only answers that make sense to me stem from either: A) ignorance B) your team lost. AmIright?

I just found this whole situation funny, and the aftermath reaction fascinating.

I agree with you in principle. I never played football, as I was too clumsy and injury prone to trust myself to not get completely physically destroyed. I'm also a pretty passive person, and everyone should know that to be successful in that sport, you have to pretty much LIVE aggression. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some players convince themselves of made-up smack talk from an opponent just to get the anger flowing. Basketball has far less raw aggression and emotion IMO. So yeah, I agree, as a fan you should be able to expect some more emotional, in your face outbursts in football. If nothing else, it adds to the pre-fight night smack talk discussion.

That being said, I really felt bad for the woman trying to interview him. She got the exact opposite of what she expected, and she was probably afraid for a moment that she was about to be murdered on national television for asking a question.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

I agree with you in principle. I never played football, as I was too clumsy and injury prone to trust myself to not get completely physically destroyed. I'm also a pretty passive person, and everyone should know that to be successful in that sport, you have to pretty much LIVE aggression. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some players convince themselves of made-up smack talk from an opponent just to get the anger flowing. Basketball has far less raw aggression and emotion IMO. So yeah, I agree, as a fan you should be able to expect some more emotional, in your face outbursts in football. If nothing else, it adds to the pre-fight night smack talk discussion.

That being said, I really felt bad for the woman trying to interview him. She got the exact opposite of what she expected, and she was probably afraid for a moment that she was about to be murdered on national television for asking a question.

As a woman, I'm saying you shouldn't feel bad. And if you're unsure as a guy how to feel about it, just ask Erin Andrews about it:

(Erin Andrews - reported by USA Today/LAKEN LITMAN)

“He never threatened me, he never cussed at me or the camera and I was never frightened to be honest with you,” she told the Dan Patrick Show Monday.

But she does have a small battle wound from the postgame scrum.

“I cut my way in to grab him because I knew they were going to take the interview,” she said. “He just bear-hugged me because he was so excited and I hit my chin on his pads and I was like, ‘Oh god, am I bleeding?’ So it was just so much raw, candid emotion at once.”

Immediately following the interview and all day Monday, Twitter erupted with negative commentary on how Sherman handled himself, when really he was just riding on adrenaline because he made a career-defining play to help his team go to the Super Bowl. It’s the kind of moment reporters live for.

“Dan, how much have you and I wanted a moment like that where an athlete didn’t say, ‘We’re playing Seahawks ball,’ ‘We’re taking it play-by-play, game-by-game, this is what we wanted,’”Andrews said. “He lost his mind and it was awesome for once, you know?”



Ironically, Sherman was Mic'ed up. He said "good game", because it was literally over after the interception, and went to shake the guy's hand. Crabgrass shoved him away in the face And who really cares? It's real, and it's entertaining ya? I thought it was funny and Crapernick deserves to feel every bit of shame he tried to pile on Cam Newton last week.

Who complains when a hockey fight breaks out over smack talk?

What about when UFC fighters and boxers talk crap about each other for weeks?

It's just silly imo to expect athletes to act how a fan wants them to act when they want them to act. Fans... lol

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

As a Blazer/Niner fan I am viewing all this with mixed emotion.

On the Sherman issue - there is supposedly bad blood between him and Harbaugh. (to the point he almost quit football at Stanford) I imagine the outburst has been building for some time.

There's that too, in fact, there's a lot I didn't mention or am not aware of. How great is it as fans to get to see that raw emotion and at least one or two of those layers from the athletes many live vicariously through. Or maybe that's the problem, and fans should just step back and enjoy the show. Would we rather they not talk at all?