OT: "Grizzlies Fire All Scouts"

[Chuck Taylor]

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/60932/20090802/grizzlies_fire_all_scouts/

This is hilarious! What do you do if you're the worst franchise in basketball? Stop scouting all together, that's what! Chris Wallace is a pioneer in his field.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

I wonder if this was before or after they chose ZBo over Boozer?

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wi...090730/report_memphis_chose_z_bo_over_boozer/

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Maybe Damon and Darius can scout for him.... and film a series of stoner road films while they're at it.

 

[OddEnormous]

"I prefer a smaller group,"


That's fucking awesome

 

[THE HCP]

Are they fucking crazy? Wonder if they still have advanced scouts that go out on the road and check out the teams on the upcoming schedule. If not, WOW!

 

[Boob-No-More]

Next up: Grizzlies Fire All Coaches.

Says Chris Wallace. "We suck anyway, aren't going to win many games and the players I've assembled are uncoachable. So, why pay a bunch of retread coaches money to sit on the bench with looks of exasperation on their faces? Coaching is overrated. Our players won't listen to them and we can lose just fine without them. And it will save Michael Heisley some money. He didn't buy this team to win basketball games (that should be obvious), he bought it to run it as cheaply as possible. If Donald Sterling can make money on a team that's had only two winning seasons is 28 years. why can't Michael Heisley do the same?"

BNM

 

[illmatic99]

I can't look down my nose at the Grizzlies for being cheap any longer.

PA is no different.

 

[THE HCP]

I can't look down my nose at the Grizzlies for being cheap any longer.

PA is no different.

A little bit different.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I can't look down my nose at the Grizzlies for being cheap any longer.

PA is no different.

So, you'd be perfectly happy to swap rosters with the Grizzlies?

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

Great article on this move and other off season moves by the Grizzlies here:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/aug/02/grizzlies-cutbacks-revealing-priority/

Love this quote about Chris Wallace:

I bring this up because the Grizzlies recently decided to let go of their scouts. Yes, all of their scouts.

"I prefer a smaller group," said Chris Wallace, the Grizzlies GM.

You have to love Wallace, don't you? He could have put a positive spin on the yellow fever epidemic.

"I prefer a smaller city," he'd have said.

BNM

 

[Idog1976]

Maybe Damon and Darius can scout for him.... and film a series of stoner road films while they're at it.

That is possibly the greatest idea of all time. Fuck quantum physics, calculus, existentialism and Shakespeare you hit on something here that is gritty and REAL!

 

[maxiep]

So, you'd be perfectly happy to swap rosters with the Grizzlies?

BNM

That roster pretty much looks like the 2001-2002 Blazers--a bunch of overpaid, don't-give-a-shit malcontents.

 

[alex42083]

This is such an f'ing joke of a franchise. Now I can understand this is mainly an owner's decision than Wallace's, but for Wallace to say "I prefer a smaller group". WTF, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The guy tries to spin everything ever since that horrid Gasol trade, and even he made some people believe that he did the right thing there.

He could've just said, these are tough economic times and blah blah blah. Not "I prefer a smaller group". That's a flat-out lie. Ugh.. I hate the Grizzlies, disband them now or Stern should force Heisley to sell. They're such a joke.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

 

[illmatic99]

So, you'd be perfectly happy to swap rosters with the Grizzlies?

BNM

Yeah. That's exactly what I meant.

 

[maxiep]

That article isn't accurate. The Memphis Grizzlies have merely outsourced their scouting to the Los Angeles L*kers. That way, Mitch Kupchak can have the talent and cap space of two teams at his disposal.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Yeah. That's exactly what I meant.

Well, then if not that, what exactly did you mean?

The Blazers offered HUGE contracts to free agents Hedo Turkoglu and Paul Millsap in an effort to improve the team. The Grizzlies cheap ass owner wouldn't even pay $3 million per year to keep their own free agent, Hakim Warrick, after both the coach and GM said they wanted to keep him:

Of course, who needs basketball people around when the owner doesn't pay attention to what they say? If he did, Hakim Warrick would still be on the team. Nobody on the basketball side endorsed Heisley's decision to let Warrick walk.

When has Paul Allen ever let one of his own free agents, that both the coach and GM wanted to keep, let walk for nothing to save some money? If anything, Allen has a long history of seriously overpaying to keep his own guys (Damon Stoudemire, Zach Randolph, Darius Miles, etc.). Paul Allen spends money to make his team better. Michael Heisley torpedoes his team's chances of winning to save money. So please, explain how Paul Allen "is no different" than Michael Heisley.

BNM

 

[illmatic99]

Well, then if not that, what exactly did you mean?

The Blazers offered HUGE contracts to free agents Hedo Turkoglu and Paul Millsap in an effort to improve the team. The Grizzlies cheap ass owner wouldn't even pay $3 million per year to keep their own free agent, Hakim Warrick, after both the coach and GM said they wanted to keep him:

PA/KP/Vulcan (whomever) is nickel and diming the two cornerstones of this franchise. That's what I meant when I called PA "cheap."

How the hell can you deduce that I supposedly wanted to swap our rosters when I said that? Unless, you were just baiting me.

 

[BlazerBeav]

I can't look down my nose at the Grizzlies for being cheap any longer.

PA is no different.

Oh yeah, that makes complete sense. Or not. The franchise that a few years ago was losing $100 million for overpaying players in an attempt to win has a cheap owner. Sure thing.

 

[Minstrel]

PA/KP/Vulcan (whomever) is nickel and diming the two cornerstones of this franchise. That's what I meant when I called PA "cheap."

He's only "being cheap" if he lets them walk over a million or two. Negotiating tough isn't being cheap, it's being a businessman.

 

[Tince]

He's only "being cheap" if he lets them walk over a million or two. Negotiating tough isn't being cheap, it's being a businessman.

+1

I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

Either people like being angry and negative, or they really have no sense of business. I guess it's possible both are true.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Thabeet was brutal in Summer League.

His lack of foot speed and lateral quickness killed him. The last 4 games he had a total of one or two blocks!

 

[Boob-No-More]

PA/KP/Vulcan (whomever) is nickel and diming the two cornerstones of this franchise. That's what I meant when I called PA "cheap."

How the hell can you deduce that I supposedly wanted to swap our rosters when I said that? Unless, you were just baiting me.

But you didn't call Paul Allen cheap, you said he was "no different" than Michael Heisley. If he was really no different than Michael Heisley, wouldn't we have a similar roster to the one Heisley has assembled in Memphis - with similar results.

The Roy and Aldridge contract negotiations aren't over. At this point Paul Allen hasn't lost anyone his coach and GM wanted to keep over money. He's about as far from Michael Heisley as an owner can get - and I think you know that. Because we are all fans of Roy and Aldridge, people in this forum have suddenly painted Paul Allen as the bad guy, as a cheap owner who cares more about profits than winning. I find that absolutely laughable and calling Allen "no different" than Michael Heisley ridiculous. Within the last month, he's offered Hedo over $50 million and Millsap $40 million - and you think he's "cheap" and "no different" than Michael Heisley. Yeah, right.

BNM

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Breaking News:

"After careful consideration, we've decided that we really need some scouts after all. Evreyone please give a Big Grizzly Welcome to Troop 86!"

 

[PapaG]

+1

I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

Either people like being angry and negative, or they really have no sense of business. I guess it's possible both are true.

Yes, it's so simple and black/white, isn't it. You are either angry or a fool (or both) if you don't like how the Roy contract negotations are going. Solid opinion. Very nuanced.

 

[Tince]

Yes, it's so simple and black/white, isn't it. You are either angry or a fool (or both) if you don't like how the Roy contract negotations are going. Solid opinion. Very nuanced.

I didn't say that, but it sounds more dramatic, so you can certainly run with it if you'd like.

 

[PapaG]

I didn't say that, but it sounds more dramatic, so you can certainly run with it if you'd like.

Really?

Originally Posted by Tince
+1

I don't know why this is so hard to understand.

Either people like being angry and negative, or they really have no sense of business. I guess it's possible both are true.

Either (A), or (B), with (c) being "both". Either/or statements are about as black/white as one can get.

 

[Tince]

Really?



Either (A), or (B), with (c) being "both". Either/or statements are about as black/white as one can get.

Really.

Where you've gone wrong is saying that my statement was in regards to someone who "doesn't like how the negotiations are going."

That statement is for people who fail to recognize the Blazers position in the negotiation progress.

It would be like me looking at this only from the Blazers eyes, and not considering Roy. If that were the case, I would be up in arms with Portland offering him a full max extension before his current contract is up and waiting to the if the CBA changes. I expect Roy to get the full max contract, but I can't blame Portland for trying to get him for less.

I almost get the impression some people here have never tried to buy a good or service for less than their perceived value of it.

 

[PapaG]

Really.

Where you've gone wrong is saying that my statement was in regards to someone who "doesn't like how the negotiations are going."

That statement is for people who fail to recognize the Blazers position in the negotiation progress.

It would be like me looking at this only from the Blazers eyes, and not considering Roy. If that were the case, I would be up in arms with Portland offering him a full max extension before his current contract is up and waiting to the if the CBA changes. I expect Roy to get the full max contract, but I can't blame Portland for trying to get him for less.

What is the Blazers' position? I've seen many assumed positions, but nothing other than the team will have Roy/LMA for a "long time" in public.

I almost get the impression some people here have never tried to buy a good or service for less than their perceived value of it.

Well, duh. After all, I have no business sense.

 

[Tince]

What is the Blazers' position? I've seen many assumed positions, but nothing other than the team will have Roy/LMA for a "long time" in public.



Well, duh. After all, I have no business sense.

I never said anything about you.

Again, more dramatic than it needs to be.