OT: JVG rips Memphis

[Fez Hammersticks]

This weekend Jeff Van Gundy was calling a game and the Memphis/Gasol topic came up and said "The Memphis Grizzlies are the worst organization in professional sports."

Of course, I had to sig it. Is there more of an irrelevant franchise in the NBA than the Griz? Is this organization worse than the Radiers? Do you agree with JVG?

 

[La Bomba]

Dumb ass.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I fully agree with JVG.

 

[La Bomba]

So you are saying that the Raiders lead by Al Davis are worse off? You can rip Chris Wallace all you want but looking at the direction the Raiders are leading is pretty pathetic. At least the Grizzlies made the playoffs three years in a row, and have great young talent.

 

[LittleAlex]

This weekend Jeff Van Gundy was calling a game and the Memphis/Gasol topic came up and said "The Memphis Grizzlies are the worst organization in professional sports."

Of course, I had to sig it. Is there more of an irrelevant franchise in the NBA than the Griz? Is this organization worse than the Radiers? Do you agree with JVG?

The Grizzlies are pretty bad, but they haven't been as bad for as long as the Clippers. Also, the Detroit Lions are fucking horrific.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

At least the Grizzlies made the playoffs three years in a row, and have great young talent.

The Pau Gasol led playoff team. As it looks, combined with being in the West, it'll be a better part of a decade before the Grizz sniff the playoffs again.

 

[La Bomba]

Yeah how can you forget about the Lions? 0-16 season is worse then a bad GM.

 

[1 Eye Jack]

So you are saying that the Raiders lead by Al Davis are worse off? You can rip Chris Wallace all you want but looking at the direction the Raiders are leading is pretty pathetic. At least the Grizzlies made the playoffs three years in a row, and have great young talent.

Nobody can question the Grizzlies talent, Gasol, Mayo and Gay are a nice group to build around. They just have terrible management and no direction.

 

[La Bomba]

The Pau Gasol led playoff team. As it looks, combined with being in the West, it'll be a better part of a decade before the Grizz sniff the playoffs again.

How? You are saying the cap space the Grizzlies have, combined with the young talent they already have won't lead the Grizzlies to the playoffs in around five years?

 

[BalancedMan]

The Grizzlies are pretty bad, but they haven't been as bad for as long as the Clippers. Also, the Detroit Lions are fucking horrific.

Yeah it's hard to beat the Lions in how bad they are. Sad. Raiders seem confused too.

Grizzlies wouldn't be near that list if they didn't give away Pau though...and for what...his brother? They already moved Crittenton to (smartly) get their pick back from the Wizards for JCN.

 

[Ed O]

The Grizzlies are pretty bad, but they haven't been as bad for as long as the Clippers. Also, the Detroit Lions are fucking horrific.

Clippers, Lions, Raiders... all worthy of being considered the worst in pro sports.

Teams like the Kansas City Royals probably are right there, too.

Ed O.

 

[LameR]

How? You are saying the cap space the Grizzlies have, combined with the young talent they already have won't lead the Grizzlies to the playoffs in around five years?

If you want to go back to when the Grizzlies made the playoffs, I could just as easily say the Raiders won a super bowl. Darren McFadden isn't exactly a bad player himself. The fact remains though (as with the Blazers), none of the great young talent matters if they can't become something better than that.

 

[La Bomba]

All the Grizzlies have going wrong is a terrible GM. I'll admit that, but Chris Wallace's months in Memphis are numbered.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

How? You are saying the cap space the Grizzlies have, combined with the young talent they already have won't lead the Grizzlies to the playoffs in around five years?

Good luck trying to lure a big FA to want to play in Memphis, Tennessee.

 

[BlazersBlood]

Well, they are the worst in basketball.

The Lions take the cake though. I'm a Lions fan and it feels horrible to root for a team that has the dumbest owner ever. He let Millen drive that team into the ground, then gave him an extension, then Millen continued to bury that team. Thank god for Calvin Johnson or else I'd have nothing to look forward to on Sunday.

 

[Nikolokolus]

So you are saying that the Raiders lead by Al Davis are worse off? You can rip Chris Wallace all you want but looking at the direction the Raiders are leading is pretty pathetic. At least the Grizzlies made the playoffs three years in a row, and have great young talent.

Nobody is knocking the talent level of the players, just the management of the organization ... and if you are going to compare the past success of the Grizzlies to the Raiders you might have at least mentioned the Raiders have won Super Bowls and played in the big game just 6 years ago

 

[La Bomba]

Good luck trying to lure a big FA to want to play in Memphis, Tennessee.

Good luck finding a professional athlete that doesn't want a max contract along with other talented players.

 

[maxiep]

Good luck finding a professional athlete that doesn't want a max contract along with other talented players.

Tell that to the Bulls who couldn't find anyone to take their cap space a few years ago. And most NBA players would rather be in Chicago than Memphis. Of course, you could pay Qyntel Woods the max; he likes Memphis.

 

[La Bomba]

Tell that to the Bulls who couldn't find anyone to take their cap space a few years ago. And most NBA players would rather be in Chicago than Memphis. Of course, you could pay Qyntel Woods the max; he likes Memphis.

The Bulls didn't have young players like Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo playing for them.

 

[rocketeer]

Good luck finding a professional athlete that doesn't want a max contract along with other talented players.

if the player's current team is unwilling to offer them a max contract, odds are the player isn't someone you want to be offering a max contract to.

memphis isn't going to get star players from their capspace unless they do so by taking back terrible contracts in a trade.

 

[RR7]

No, they had Elton Brand, Ron Artest, and Jamal Crawford playing for them.

 

[La Bomba]

if the player's current team is unwilling to offer them a max contract, odds are the player isn't someone you want to be offering a max contract to.

memphis isn't going to get star players from their capspace unless they do so by taking back terrible contracts in a trade.

Memphis has the most cap space in the league right now. We'll be ready to give possibly two max offers in '09 and/or '10.

 

[rocketeer]

The Bulls didn't have young players like Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo playing for them.

they had elton brand and ron artest.

 

[rocketeer]

Memphis has the most cap space in the league right now. We'll be ready to give possibly two max offers in '09 and/or '10.

right. what does that have to do with my statement?

 

[ironcrotch]

Didn't the Grizz current owner pull a Clay Bennett when he bought the team and moved them from BC to Memphis.

It's called karma. OKC fans be weary.

 

[La Bomba]

they had elton brand and ron artest.

I wasn't thinking of those years then. I was thinking about the year they signed Ben Wallace.

 

[RR7]

Who are you going to offer max money to in 09? And in 10, you think big name players are going to choose Memphis over Chicago, Miami, or NY? Even Toronto, Houston, Dallas, and a few other better cities. What will happen is you'll pay max money for a secondary star, or your owner will just be happy with a feeble attempt at making a profit drawing 12,000 fans a night. And in 5 years, they'll be in Seattle, Vancouver, Vegas, or somewhere else.

 

[rocketeer]

I wasn't thinking of those years then. I was thinking about the year they signed Ben Wallace.

so then ben gordon and luol deng. either way, yes the bulls did have talented players.

 

[RR7]

If you're talking about when they signed Wallace, your argument is justas bad, as they had Deng, Gordon, and Hinrich, as well as Chandler on the team. Wanna try again? Maybe you were thinking of 1982 or some shit?

 

[La Bomba]

Who are you going to offer max money to in 09? And in 10, you think big name players are going to choose Memphis over Chicago, Miami, or NY? Even Toronto, Houston, Dallas, and a few other better cities. What will happen is you'll pay max money for a secondary star, or your owner will just be happy with a feeble attempt at making a profit drawing 12,000 fans a night. And in 5 years, they'll be in Seattle, Vancouver, Vegas, or somewhere else.

We can offer Josh Smith a fat contract, but not a max in '09. I like how people act like Memphis fans will NEVER go to games. Memphis fans, like most fans, like to see their team win. The Memphis Tigers are ranked 8th in attendence out of the whole country so it's not like there aren't who are willing to pay for a winning team. Look at the Celtics difference in attendence from '07 to '08.