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Take note LMA jock riders :devilwink:

Per 40 in the FIBA's:

29.6 PPG | 26.4 RPG

He really looks like he's on the verge of taking his game to another level.
 
Because European big men are so rough and tumble in the paint.....
 
HERE WE GO AGAIN! LA is better then this fool!
 
LMA has more potential. KLove is more productive. Take your pick. :sherlock:
 
POTENTIAL? Look at the stats! Compare 'em and then get back to me!
 
POTENTIAL? Look at the stats! Compare 'em and then get back to me!

It's so embarrassing when you compare rebounding numbers between these two players. Kevin Love is literally twice the rebounder as LMA despite being "unathletic," and just a shade over 6'9".

AGE:
Love - 21
Aldridge - 24

PER:
Love - 20.7
Aldridge - 18.2

MPG:
Love - 28.6
Aldridge - 37.5

REBS:
Love - 11.0
Aldridge - 8.0

ORB%:
Love - 15.1
Aldridge - 8.1

PER36 REBS:
Love - 13.8
Aldridge - 7.7

LaMarcus is a legit 6'11" with 7'5" wingspan but is on the same level of shotblocking as Kevin Love at 6'9.5" with a 6'11" wingspan. Truly a perfect example of size doesn't matter if you don't have the heart/toughness to back it up.

BPG:
Love - 0.4
Aldridge - 0.6

Block%
Love - 1.0
Aldridge - 1.3
 
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Take note LMA jock riders :devilwink:

Per 40 in the FIBA's:

29.6 PPG | 26.4 RPG

He really looks like he's on the verge of taking his game to another level.

I'm no LMA jock rider, I'd certainly consider and probably pull the trigger on an LMA for Love trade, but using Love's per40 numbers in FIBA is pretty useless IMHO. Comparing LMA and Love on a per minute production basis in the NBA is fine because Love plays almost starter minutes, but to my knowledge he isn't even averaging 20mins per game for team USA.
 
there is only one jock rider in this thread and he's going for his umpteenth ride on his favorite mount... yippee ki yay!

STOMP
 
POTENTIAL? Look at the stats! Compare 'em and then get back to me!

YOU look at the stats. I respect your opinion but I've seen enough of these players to form an opinion of my own. Thanks though.
 
Love averaged 14/11 on one of the worst teams in the league.

LA averaged 18/8 on one of the best.

LA was doubled almost every time he touched the ball.

Love wasn't.

LA grabbed 8 boards a game surrounded by 3 of the best rebounding big men in the game.

I hate the per 48 shit. Even with Greg.
 
I still say the majority,if not EVERY GM in the league would take LA over Love.
 
I still say the majority,if not EVERY GM in the league would take LA over Love.

When you factor in cost and age, that's far from clear, even though I think Aldridge is better right now.
 
Love averaged 14/11 on one of the worst teams in the league.

LA averaged 18/8 on one of the best.

LA was doubled almost every time he touched the ball.

Love wasn't.

LA grabbed 8 boards a game surrounded by 3 of the best rebounding big men in the game.

I hate the per 48 shit. Even with Greg.

You're really not making much of a point. Put Love on this team with LMA's minutes and he's putting up a couple less points and 10+ rebounds per game.
 
You're really not making much of a point. Put Love on this team with LMA's minutes and he's putting up a couple less points and 10+ rebounds per game.
the main detriment to Love is that he hasn't shown the ability to defend 4s decently let alone SFs or Centers on switches. Also, LA has been gathering his boards on one of the league's top rebounding clubs (who also happen to slow the pace down a lot) while Love's minutes come in garbage time as the Wolves have straight sucked even with the great KL off the bench.

Everyone is free to hold an opinion, mine is that comparing these two statistically isn't apples to apples because of circumstances

STOMP
 
Love is playing great for Team USA, when he plays. I think he's also pretty underrated overall, as he's already one of the best rebounders in the game. The Team USA coaches are playing too much small ball and taking an unnecessary risk doing so, IMO.

I'm not particularly interested in him as a Blazer, though, since we already have two of the other best rebounders with Oden & Camby, and Love would give us diminishing returns. LA really isn't much of a defender, especially in the post, but he's better than Love. His offense is not only better, but better suited to playing with Oden & Camby too, so don't see much point dwelling on him as a Blazer. Now, if something like Oden for Chris Paul happened, then maybe LA for Love might make some sense.
 
15 wins. Whoopeeee!!!!

I forgot. Unless a player plays on a winning team his stats are meaningless. In fact, I think they should go back in time and wipe out statistics for every player that played on a below .500 team.
 
Love is a very skilled rebounder, something that I don't think can be a learned trait. He uses his wide, stout body to its limits and is a great rebounder. He's also a great passer, which gets overlooked. Meanwhile, I've seen too many times LMA gets tossed aside for the rebound, its apparent he isn't physical enough.

To me, Love in the NBA is like Batum in FIBA. Certainly not a great player if counted on to carry the load. But, when in a system a very effective player.
 
Love is a great player, the only real downside to his game is his defense. LMA isn't the greatest of defenders but he is better then love has a bigger upside then Love on the defensive end. Offensively Love's game isn't anywhere near as polished as LMA but as least Love shows some love for the paint. Love beats LMA in two aspects and thats rebounding/passing.
If I were a GM and it was draft day i'd take LMA over love in a heartbeat. At the moment because of contract differences and I was on a team that was money conscience i'd take Love.
 
I've watched these two players extensively, and it's not really a contest. Lamarcus, for all of his faults, is a superior player in nearly every regard except for rebounding (and passing, although LMA is an excellent passer as well).

Post up these two guys on the block, and LMA is offensively superior. Spin moves, an unblockable fadeaway, up and unders, hook shots, etc etc.... his offensive repertoire is dizzying, and I think we take it for granted sometimes.

I've watched a lot of Love, and that same ability just isn't there. He's a good shooter, knows how to pick his spots, but the talent is lacking, and the athleticism is lacking. He's never going to fast or strong enough to bang against all star centers. He's pretty slow, and he simply doesn't have the athleticism to power over and dominate guys like Dwight Howard and other all-star bigs.

Then there's defense. LMA, while being a poor defensive rebounder, is an excellent on-ball defender, and even when he gets switched on picks, can do a decent job against guards. His long arms, quick feet, and ability to move around on the floor quickly and gracefully is an asset on D and allows for him to roam around and contest a variety of different shots. He's not a dominating power defender who's going to rack up the blocks, but his massive wingspan allows for him to cover and contest most SF's and PF's extremely well.

Love is pathetic on defense. He's slow and I've watched him consistently get beat to the spot by his man. He hits the boards hard, but he simply doesn't have the power or the athletic ability to defend elite level big men in the league.

They're both good players in the NBA, but you've got to be joking if you think Love is actually a better player overall. There's things he does well, but let's be honest here...
 
Love averaged 14/11 on one of the worst teams in the league.

LA averaged 18/8 on one of the best.

LA was doubled almost every time he touched the ball.

Love wasn't.

LA grabbed 8 boards a game surrounded by 3 of the best rebounding big men in the game.

I hate the per 48 shit. Even with Greg.

Love wasn't doubled? Are you sure about that because when I saw their games on league pass he was doubled a lot. LMA on the other hand was not doubled at all when he had the ball up top.....which was most of the time.


LMA is good, but Love is better. LMA is a slightly better defender though.
 
I forgot. Unless a player plays on a winning team his stats are meaningless.

Not meaningless, just simply not comparable to that of a player on a vastly superior team who faces much tougher opponents Every Night.
 
LMA has more potential. KLove is more productive. Take your pick. :sherlock:

Love is three years younger and at least as productive as LMA. I think that Love has more potential based on their ages and what they've done in the NBA so far.

Ed O.
 
Despite playing 10 MPG Kevin leads team USA in every rebounding category.

LMA is an average at best defender. Their DRtg's aren't too far apart, either.
 
You know who is ACTUALLY beasting? Totally carrying his team, scoring at will, despite being constantly double and triple teamed? This guy.

He already has the tournament MVP pretty much wrapped up.

And yes, I would trade LMA for him. But if we offered, I'm pretty sure they'd turn it down (especially since he pretty much owned Aldridge in that playoff series).

Kevin Love should be on the Suns or the Knicks. His standout skill is outlet passes, so he'd be wasted on a team like ours (especially one that sets a premium on defense).
 
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After seeing Oden dominate Love on the boards (and on the offensive side as well) and make him look like a high schooler at the US Team's tryouts in 2009, I knew having a 100% healthy Oden on our roster pretty much makes Love irrelevent next to him. As long as Oden is healthy and gives us 70+ games, I'd just as well have Aldridge for his offense and let Oden dominate the paint as he does best.
 
Love wasn't doubled? Are you sure about that because when I saw their games on league pass he was doubled a lot. LMA on the other hand was not doubled at all when he had the ball up top.....which was most of the time.


LMA is good, but Love is better. LMA is a slightly better defender though.

Love certainly wasn't doubled by the Trail Blazers during any of their blowouts of the Wolves - and likely not by any team with a big man either. You've got to be kidding with this Love being better nonsense. There's also something to the low minutes he gets - you think his defense is bad when he's rested, let's see it after racing up and down the court for 30 minutes (whereas LMA is still able to beat everyone down the court, see the game at Milwaukee).
 

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