OT: Rubio saga continues (updated)

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4437300

Less than 48 hours after the Timberwolves, Rubio's agents and the Spanish team DKV Joventut agreed in principle on a deal to bring the 18-year-old point guard to Minnesota, Rubio changed his mind.

He told Timberwolves president David Kahn on Monday night that he wanted to stay in Spain for the next two years to better prepare for life in the NBA -- a blow to a team that was hoping to have the popular passer on the court this fall.
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That's gotta hurt. Minny and his agent had it all worked out, and Rubio backs out.
 
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Must've been his wife who wanted to stay overseas.


Wait..wouldn't the US be "overseas" from their perspective?
 
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Rubio seemed like a stand-up guy. :dunno:
 
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Natebishop3 said:
I just really wonder if Minny will trade him.
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Probably depends on how Flynn develops and how the Minny youth grow as a team. As it is, Minny has the leverage at this point on Rubio's NBA future. Will Rubio continue to progress into a superstar? That's the real question, and he won't accelerate his growth in Spain as he would have in the US. He will still be a gamble for a team wanting to trade for him.
 
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PapaG said:
Probably depends on how Flynn develops and how the Minny youth grow as a team. As it is, Minny has the leverage at this point on Rubio's NBA future. Will Rubio continue to progress into a superstar? That's the real question, and he won't accelerate his growth in Spain as he would have in the US. He will still be a gamble for a team wanting to trade for him.
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Yeah, but what if he doesn't improve? What if he struggles? I'm sure his stock isn't high right now because of the 2 years with Barcelona, but it's still a risk to hold onto him.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
Yeah, but what if he doesn't improve? What if he struggles? I'm sure his stock isn't high right now because of the 2 years with Barcelona, but it's still a risk to hold onto him.
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Good point, but he can't be bought out for two years as it is. Seems like Minny is stuck with him, unless Isiah Thomas suddenly gets control of another NBA team. Why trade assets for the rights to an unknown who appears to be a bit of a flake?
 
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PapaG said:
Good point, but he can't be bought out for two years as it is. Seems like Minny is stuck with him, unless Isiah Thomas suddenly gets control of another NBA team. Why trade assets for the rights to an unknown who appears to be a bit of a flake?
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Well, Portland could very easily trade for him and not even feel the loss. Let's say we want to have someone stashed who could come over and take the reigns from Andre Miller in a couple seasons. Rubio would be perfect. I've been saying that we need a consolidation trade, and this could be the perfect fit.
 
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I've got to think that Kahn always intended Rubio as a trading chip, or he wouldn't have drafted Flynn. Flynn has a built-in US fan base and is from Buffalo, so Minny doesn't seem cold and depressing to him. Kahn just knew that he couldn't let a top 2 talent slip past him.

The only way Minny doesn't trade Rubio is if Flynn turns out to be a bust. (But even then, Rubio will probably refuse to play for the Wolves.) If NY hadn't lost their 2010 draft pick to Utah already, Rubio's rights would probably already belong to the Knicks. I can't see Rubio ending up on a small-market team, though. Even if one is interested, I'm sure his agent will let it be known that he'll just stay with Barca rather than come over to the Memphises of this world. (Or probably Portlands.) I hate to say it, but I see him being the post-Kobe star of the Lakers.
 
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Rastapopoulos said:
I've got to think that Kahn always intended Rubio as a trading chip, or he wouldn't have drafted Flynn. Flynn has a built-in US fan base and is from Buffalo, so Minny doesn't seem cold and depressing to him. Kahn just knew that he couldn't let a top 2 talent slip past him.

The only way Minny doesn't trade Rubio is if Flynn turns out to be a bust. (But even then, Rubio will probably refuse to play for the Wolves.) If NY hadn't lost their 2010 draft pick to Utah already, Rubio's rights would probably already belong to the Knicks. I can't see Rubio ending up on a small-market team, though. Even if one is interested, I'm sure his agent will let it be known that he'll just stay with Barca rather than come over to the Memphises of this world. (Or probably Portlands.) I hate to say it, but I see him being the post-Kobe star of the Lakers.
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IF that happens, I will gladly root against him.
 
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One thing is for sure, he'll never play for Portland.
 
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Just another Euro pussy who was too afraid to come play in the big boyz league.
 
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hasoos said:
Just another Euro pussy who was too afraid to come play in the big boyz league.
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I doubt it. He just doesn't want to play in Minny. I don't blame him.
 
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Dante_Cunningham said:
I doubt it. He just doesn't want to play in Minny. I don't blame him.
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I still have no clue why Rubio stayed in the draft. Instead of entering in a few years, his NBA future is dictated by Minnesota as long as he's playing ball in Europe.
 
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PapaG said:
I still have no clue why Rubio stayed in the draft. Instead of entering in a few years, his NBA future is dictated by Minnesota as long as he's playing ball in Europe.
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I guess he didn't think he'd slip to 5th. :dunno:
 
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Dante_Cunningham said:
I doubt it. He just doesn't want to play in Minny. I don't blame him.
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A lot of NBA players don't even live where their home team plays. Plus your going to tell me that travelling around all the NBA towns and getting all the free pussy that comes with it wouldn't have been a blast? You also have to remember that being on a bad team also means lots of playing time. All positives IMO. :ghoti:
 
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hasoos said:
A lot of NBA players don't even live where their home team plays. Plus your going to tell me that travelling around all the NBA towns and getting all the free pussy that comes with it wouldn't have been a blast? You also have to remember that being on a bad team also means lots of playing time. All positives IMO. :ghoti:
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You don't think he gets a taste playing in Spain? :devilwink:
 
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hasoos said:
A lot of NBA players don't even live where their home team plays. Plus your going to tell me that travelling around all the NBA towns and getting all the free pussy that comes with it wouldn't have been a blast? You also have to remember that being on a bad team also means lots of playing time. All positives IMO. :ghoti:
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This was about the buyout though. The 5th pick doesn't make enough money to handle that kind of buyout. When a guy gets drafted, it's supposed to be a payday, not put him in debt.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
This was about the buyout though. The 5th pick doesn't make enough money to handle that kind of buyout. When a guy gets drafted, it's supposed to be a payday, not put him in debt.
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I bet his agent was blowing rainbows and sunshine up his ass about going 2nd, and when it didn't happen, he was basically fucked unless he dropped out of the first round (fat chance) or went someplace he'd really want to play for (Portland?).
 
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Now ESPN is saying there's a good chance he won't even come until 2012.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&page=Rubio-090902

If Rubio plays three seasons for FC Barcelona, by the summer of 2012 he no longer would be bound by the terms of the NBA rookie scale, which apply to first-round picks only for the first three years after which they are drafted.

Rubio then could exercise his buyout (which remains the same in 2012 as it is in 2011: 1 million euros), come to America at age 21 and not be bound by the rookie scale. (Yes, there is a specific rule covering these situations. We've checked the details with the highest authorities and discovered a few caveats: Rubio's contract would have to be for a minimum of three years and a maximum of five, and the money that would be made available to him could be only from a team with salary-cap space, the mid-level exception, or a disabled player exception.)
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