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Looking at the box score from the Pelicans game is disgusting. All of a sudden the team became a collection of third stringers just like the ends of the last two seasons. It's like we're tanking on top of tanking. There's no way all these little injuries and illnesses every other game are legit. It's like someone gets a hangnail they are out. I don't remember it being this way, even when we sucked.

The players and staff need to step up. This is an aweful product their putting out.
 
RR7 said:
Is the better option to win out and have a pick at 14 instead?
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I am being completely unironic when I say YES. For one thing, that range of players is where you take the "safe" picks... you know like Jaime Jaquez Jr. The top players in a bad draft are NEVER the best players in the draft, because that's where you convince yourself that this great athlete can BECOME a good player...
 
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Rastapopoulos said:
I am being completely unironic when I say YES. For one thing, that range of players is where you take the "safe" picks... you know like Jaime Jaquez Jr. The top players in a bad draft are NEVER the best players in the draft, because that's where you convince yourself that this great athlete can BECOME a good player...
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I understand what you're saying, and while I have a general disagreement with some of it, are we really a franchise that is at a point of taking "safe" players versus swinging for upside and hoping we find a diamond out there?
Basically, Jaquez doesn't look the same, IMO, playing here versus alongside Butler and Bam, and for Spo.
If you don't trust your scouts to select the right guy earlier, then they're obviously not the right scouts. And if 4 or 5 is too high to draft a guy, then you trade down to 10 and get him and extra stuff.
 
Stevenson said:
Imo, it's the Philly "process" but in stealth mode.
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Rastapopoulos said:
I am being completely unironic when I say YES. For one thing, that range of players is where you take the "safe" picks... you know like Jaime Jaquez Jr. The top players in a bad draft are NEVER the best players in the draft, because that's where you convince yourself that this great athlete can BECOME a good player...
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What you're saying might make sense if Jaime Jaquez Jr looked like the best player in this draft. He doesn't tho... Victor and Miller both look much better and look to have much higher upside. Or in 2022... the top 4 were Banchero, Chet, Smith Jr. and Keegan Murray. Who are the later picks that look better than them?
 
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AngryFan said:
What you're saying might make sense if Jaime Jaquez Jr looked like the best player in this draft. He doesn't tho... Victor and Miller both look much better and look to have much higher upside. Or in 2022... the top 4 were Banchero, Chet, Smith Jr. and Keegan Murray. Who are the later picks that look better than them?
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Um Scoot is better than JJJ too.
 
AngryFan said:
What you're saying might make sense if Jaime Jaquez Jr looked like the best player in this draft. He doesn't tho... Victor and Miller both look much better and look to have much higher upside. Or in 2022... the top 4 were Banchero, Chet, Smith Jr. and Keegan Murray. Who are the later picks that look better than them?
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I feel like people think that's what happened in 2013 because it was so terrible at the top, and giannis was amazing, but he was far from the safe pick
 
Trailblazers76 said:
Looking at the box score from the Pelicans game is disgusting. All of a sudden the team became a collection of third stringers just like the ends of the last two seasons. It's like we're tanking on top of tanking. There's no way all these little injuries and illnesses every other game are legit. It's like someone gets a hangnail they are out. I don't remember it being this way, even when we sucked.

The players and staff need to step up. This is an aweful product their putting out.
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as far as i can tell the only one who this might be would be ayton and maybe brogdon everyone else has had some actual injuries. do people forget that string of games when we were relatively healthy and we were competitive damn near every night? someone posted in another thread about how chauncey has had like 10 new players if not more since being here, so it's not like we have had this solid core forever where they are completely dialed in. Peoples expectations this year is fuckin wild to me.
 
The GM is happy. The radio guys are never disappointed, even after 60 point drubbings. Therefore Blazers fans should be estatic about their team?
DO WHAT YOU'RE TOLD... go Blazers
 
The last Cronin press conference was a disaster. "I don't want to take a step back, I want to be like the Rockets"

Portland beat the Rockets, that team stinks!! Everyone thought Portland was supposed to to blow it up and rebuild like OKC. Who's putting pressure on Cronin to win? Hopefully it's just GM flabbel-florf, and a buncha moves will get made to secure multiple picks in 2025-26-27
 
Please, share what folks expected and why. It should be interesting. Please filter with injury realities...

Personally, I feel this teams plays with more grit on D than I have seen many years. Fuck the record.
 
e_blazer said:
Is there some part of “rebuilding” that some folks didn’t understand? Young, less talented teams suck. Young, less talented teams that suffer injuries to key players suck even more.
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Blazer fans aren't built for it.

They understand tanking. They can wrap their heads around that. They don't understand rebuilding.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Blazer fans aren't built for it.

They understand tanking. They can wrap their heads around that. They don't understand rebuilding.
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I think Blazer fan can understand tanking; and they can understand rebuilding

I think they are having trouble trying to figure out wtf Cronin is doing because quite a bit of it doesn't match a rebuild
 
wizenheimer said:
I think Blazer fan can understand tanking; and they can understand rebuilding

I think they are having trouble trying to figure out wtf Cronin is doing because quite a bit of it doesn't match a rebuild
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His theory could be true. Having veterans around your young guys could help their development. :dunno:
 
Natebishop3 said:
Blazer fans aren't built for it.

They understand tanking. They can wrap their heads around that. They don't understand rebuilding.
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Joe is talking like he isn't built for it but I think he's just trying to preserve the value of his vets. We'll see.

I'm here for a total rebuild and I'm looking forward to watching a fun athletic young team that takes a few years after this one to figure out how to win games and then another year to figure out how to win games that matter.

I wasn't one calling for the rebuild but after Dame demanded his trade I got excited for a real rebuild around Shae and whoever else can develop.
 
Natebishop3 said:
His theory could be true. Having veterans around your young guys could help their development. :dunno:
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Agreed... Also, if we just throw out exclusively rookie contract players out there, not only are we just going to get thrashed every night, we're inevitability going to have a bunch of guys with inflated stats, that come contract time, will produce over-priced contracts.

A little balance doesn't seem like the worst thing in the world.
 
blazerkor said:
Joe is talking like he isn't built for it but I think he's just trying to preserve the value of his vets. We'll see.

I'm here for a total rebuild and I'm looking forward to watching a fun athletic young team that takes a few years after this one to figure out how to win games and then another year to figure out how to win games that matter.

I wasn't one calling for the rebuild but after Dame demanded his trade I got excited for a real rebuild around Shae and whoever else can develop.
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This season has been so god awful for assessing and analyzing. We have had so many injuries.

Simons has missed significant time.

Sharpe has missed significant time.

Scoot has missed a decent chunk of games.

How are we even supposed to know what we have?
 
Natebishop3 said:
His theory could be true. Having veterans around your young guys could help their development. :dunno:
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maybe....but having veterans around who take minutes away from the young guys could hurt development as well. Of course, it's been such a MASH unit this year who knows
 
Natebishop3 said:
This season has been so god awful for assessing and analyzing. We have had so many injuries.

Simons has missed significant time.

Sharpe has missed significant time.

Scoot has missed a decent chunk of games.

How are we even supposed to know what we have?
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Yeah that's been a real bummer. I don't like the way Ant's style meshes with what little we've seen from both Shae and Scoot but I really wish we would have had more time to figure that out. Figuring out that back court probably goes into next season.
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah that's been a real bummer. I don't like the way Ant's style meshes with what little we've seen from both Shae and Scoot but I really wish we would have had more time to figure that out. Figuring out that back court probably goes into next season.
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Honestly I'm not even sure we need to see it. I just don't see how they could work together. The only way it works is if Simons comes off the bench. I don't see that happening.
 
Your happiness in life will generally be correlated to 'your expectations versus your reality.' If anyone expected this team to actually compete for a play-in spot (about the highest you could have reasonably expected) than I get why you are mad about this team, personally I figured the goal was always another top 5 lottery spot, so they are who I thought they were.

I will agree that Cronin's presser saying he hopes to be the next Rockets was very concerning though, that franchise shouldn't be the model for anyone.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I am being completely unironic when I say YES. For one thing, that range of players is where you take the "safe" picks... you know like Jaime Jaquez Jr. The top players in a bad draft are NEVER the best players in the draft, because that's where you convince yourself that this great athlete can BECOME a good player...
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I'm not sure what drafts you're mushing together to form this generalization, but it sure wasn't the "bad draft" of 2013. The lotto contained many washouts including the #1 overall pick Anthony Bennett who was out of the league after his rookie deal ran out. Of the lotto picks, only #2 overall pick Victor Oladipo made an All Star team (2018,2019). He was a great athlete who upped his skills while in the league... his career was derailed by injuries not ability. Michael Carter Williams was a very solid athlete drafted at the end of the lotto who went on to win the ROY... he never figured out how to shoot but he enjoyed a good career. The clear best player from it was of course Giannis at #14, who was both the youngest and arguably the best athlete with the highest ceiling... again a great athlete who developed into an all time great player while in the league.

There were numerous other solid pros from that bad draft (CJ, Gobert), but the takeaway wasn't to avoid the great athletes with upside.

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