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illmatic99

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Blake: 9pts, 4-14 FG, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 turnover, 1 steal, and appalling defense in 38 HORRIBLE minutes.

Bayless: 0pts, 0-0 FG, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 1 turnover, 0 steals, and appalling defense in 10 HORRIBLE minutes.

Sergio: 1pt, 0-1 FG, 1 rebound, 0 assists, 1 turnover, 0 steals, and appalling defense in 6 HORRIBLE minutes.

Some questions
-Why the fuck is Blake attempting 14 field goals?
-Why the fuck can't Idiot Nate decide on a backup PG and stick with that one guy instead of playing both?
 
Nate has gotta tighten up the rotation, but injuries aren't allowing him to. Once healthy, i'm hoping that Bayless or Sergio aren't playing backup PG and they use a 3g rotation of Rudy, Roy and Blake.
 
Blake would be nice as a backup. Too bad he's our starter.
 
Blake would be nice as a backup. Too bad he's our starter.

Doesn't need to be. I'm seriously considering the idea of starting Rudy at PG, and moving Blake to the second unit. Put Bayless at the the 2, and let him be a scorer rather than a distributor.
 
A big reason why the home team usually wins games is because of the bench. Most team's second unit struggle on the road. With our lack of depth right now, ours is suffering. Outlaw was fine, But that was it as no one else scored. (until 20 seconds in the game) Rudy is still not OK. Oden being out hurts the aggressiveness of LMA and Joel on defense as they can't afford to get into any foul trouble. We need Rudy back 100%. We need Webster and we need Oden. We can get by at home, but not on the road as the home team has so much more energy.

Boston is a perfect example of this today. They lost in Milwaukie as their bench went 1-12.
 
Blake: 9pts, 4-14 FG, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 turnover, 1 steal, and appalling defense in 38 HORRIBLE minutes.

Bayless: 0pts, 0-0 FG, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 1 turnover, 0 steals, and appalling defense in 10 HORRIBLE minutes.

Sergio: 1pt, 0-1 FG, 1 rebound, 0 assists, 1 turnover, 0 steals, and appalling defense in 6 HORRIBLE minutes.

Some questions
-Why the fuck is Blake attempting 14 field goals?
-Why the fuck can't Idiot Nate decide on a backup PG and stick with that one guy instead of playing both?

Blake attempted 14 field goals? Great Caesars Ghost!!!!

I've been saying Rudy as our point guard since last summer. I think it's worth a try.
 
-Why the fuck is Blake attempting 14 field goals?

I remember at least 3 times other guys passed him the ball with no time on the shot clock, or he had to drive and throw one up because of the clock.

He only got a couple of those shots in the flow of the offense.
 
Doesn't need to be. I'm seriously considering the idea of starting Rudy at PG, and moving Blake to the second unit. Put Bayless at the the 2, and let him be a scorer rather than a distributor.

Well I'm glad YOU'RE finally considering this! J/K

Honestly though, does Rudy look like he can bring the ball up to you against pressure? I have doubts about that. He's a pretty average ball handler and I think you can fluster him by playing him close/physical.

I guess why not give it a try though, right? I'm so tired of watching our current PG's. Blake has his moments, but he should be a b/u. His ceiling (IMO) is a high quality b/u on a good team or a starter on an average/poor team.

Is it asking too much to wish for a PG who can 1) play good on ball defense 2) defend the pick-and-roll at least sometimes 3) push the ball up the floor and get us some easy baskets/get us into our offense quickly (and not when the defense is SET every single time) 4) protect the basketball 5) knock down open shots 6) make FT's in crunch time?

We have a PG by committee that do SOME of those things individually, but not even close to all of them. So you think Rudy might be the answer? Hmmmmm.
 
Is it asking too much to wish for a PG who can 1) play good on ball defense 2) defend the pick-and-roll at least sometimes 3) push the ball up the floor and get us some easy baskets/get us into our offense quickly (and not when the defense is SET every single time) 4) protect the basketball 5) knock down open shots 6) make FT's in crunch time?

I think you just described an All-Star lol :cheers:
 
Is it asking too much to wish for a PG who can 1) play good on ball defense 2) defend the pick-and-roll at least sometimes 3) push the ball up the floor and get us some easy baskets/get us into our offense quickly (and not when the defense is SET every single time) 4) protect the basketball 5) knock down open shots 6) make FT's in crunch time?

Name me 10 point guards (out of 30 teams) that match your criteria. I'm guessing that might be tough.

Point guards that can consistanly achieve all of your above goals are rare.
 
Doesn't need to be. I'm seriously considering the idea of starting Rudy at PG, and moving Blake to the second unit. Put Bayless at the the 2, and let him be a scorer rather than a distributor.

How can you consider the idea? You're not the coach. You said that like you might actually be able to do it.
 
Name me 10 point guards (out of 30 teams) that match your criteria. I'm guessing that might be tough.

Point guards that can consistanly achieve all of your above goals are rare.

I guess I should have explained myself better. I realize a guy that excels in all of those categories is rare. I'd settle for 4 or 5 out of 6. I'd take any of these guys below as our starting PG this year

D Harris, CP3, D. Williams, Mo Williams, T Parker, J Terry, C Billups, R. Foye, A Miller, D Rose, R Westbrook, S Nash, TJ Ford, M Bibby, R Sessions, R Stuckey, R Felton, R Rondo, D Fisher, J Kidd, J Calderon, C Duhon, N Robertson


I couldn't decide on a few like B Udrih, A Brooks, J Jack, M Conley, etc.
 
I guess I should have explained myself better. I realize a guy that excels in all of those categories is rare. I'd settle for 4 or 5 out of 6. I'd take any of these guys below as our starting PG this year

D Harris, CP3, D. Williams, Mo Williams, T Parker, J Terry, C Billups, R. Foye, A Miller, D Rose, R Westbrook, S Nash, TJ Ford, M Bibby, R Sessions, R Stuckey, R Felton, R Rondo, D Fisher, J Kidd, J Calderon, C Duhon, N Robertson
Who is N Robertson?
 
All our pg's suck right now. I think that is something we really need to address this summer.
 
I guess I should have explained myself better. I realize a guy that excels in all of those categories is rare. I'd settle for 4 or 5 out of 6. I'd take any of these guys below as our starting PG this year

D Harris, CP3, D. Williams, Mo Williams, T Parker, J Terry, C Billups, R. Foye, A Miller, D Rose, R Westbrook, S Nash, TJ Ford, M Bibby, R Sessions, R Stuckey, R Felton, R Rondo, D Fisher, J Kidd, J Calderon, C Duhon, N Robertson


I couldn't decide on a few like B Udrih, A Brooks, J Jack, M Conley, etc.

Bibby, Sessions, and Miller are free agents this summer. Felton and Nate Robinson have been mentioned in trade rumors. Rondo, Deron Williams, CP3, Parker, and Harris are untouchable. Westbrook and Rose are on their way to being untouchable, if they aren't already. Nash, Williams, Stuckey, and Calderon could be had, but it would take quite a bit. Duhon, Ford, Kidd, and Fisher... I don't know.
 
Bibby, Sessions, and Miller are free agents this summer. Felton and Nate Robinson have been mentioned in trade rumors. Rondo, Deron Williams, CP3, Parker, and Harris are untouchable. Westbrook and Rose are on their way to being untouchable, if they aren't already. Nash, Williams, Stuckey, and Calderon could be had, but it would take quite a bit. Duhon, Ford, Kidd, and Fisher... I don't know.

Felton will be a RFA, Kidd will be a UFA.

Not that I'm promoting signing either (and Charlotte will likely match any reasonable offer...I wouldn't want to overpay for Felton). Just mentioning it for the sake of interest.
 
I think the sun has set on PHX and they will cut Nash in the offseason, they have a team option and will save the 7mil he is owned. I think he will rejoin Mike D in New york. Sarver is so cheap it is ridiculus.
 
I think the sun has set on PHX and they will cut Nash in the offseason, they have a team option and will save the 7mil he is owned. I think he will rejoin Mike D in New york. Sarver is so cheap it is ridiculus.

Nash is averaging 23/10 this month. If the Suns let him walk for nothing they are stupid. Who's going to come to the games w/o Nash?
 
I wonder why Sam Cassell hasn't been picked up by some playoff-bound team as PG insurance. I can't imagine he'd play worse than our backups. Where did he go after Sacramento waived him? Is he waiting for 30 days to elapse so he can go back to Boston?
 
Doesn't need to be. I'm seriously considering the idea of starting Rudy at PG, and moving Blake to the second unit. Put Bayless at the the 2, and let him be a scorer rather than a distributor.

Lol but wont that lower the chemistry on your nba live team?
 
Outlaw was fine, But that was it as no one else scored. (until 20 seconds in the game) Rudy is still not OK. Oden being out hurts the aggressiveness of LMA and Joel on defense as they can't afford to get into any foul trouble. We need Rudy back 100%. We need Webster and we need Oden.

Oden being out is a huge loss. When Pryz is in the game the defense cheats off of him pressuring the rest of our players, they are forcing Blake to take these shots by overplaying Roy/LMA.

If Oden was in the starting lineup teams couldn't leave him as open, then Joel would be the defensive force off the bench to complement Travis/Rudy offense.
 
Blake: 9pts, 4-14 FG, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 turnover, 1 steal, and appalling defense in 38 HORRIBLE minutes.

Bayless: 0pts, 0-0 FG, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 1 turnover, 0 steals, and appalling defense in 10 HORRIBLE minutes.

Sergio: 1pt, 0-1 FG, 1 rebound, 0 assists, 1 turnover, 0 steals, and appalling defense in 6 HORRIBLE minutes.

Some questions
-Why the fuck is Blake attempting 14 field goals?
-Why the fuck can't Idiot Nate decide on a backup PG and stick with that one guy instead of playing both?

Bayless was pretty bad which has been a trend of late, but Sergio was fine in his 3 non-garbage-time minutes and Blake wasn't that bad either except for keepping his game on the perimeter and not trying to go inside.

I thought all 3 played decent defense, it just looks worse when you can't get any offense going to counter.

Travelling + early game = likely loss.

Nate has been trying new lineups due to injuries, and the Blake/Sergio pairing doesn't help either player excel.

Bayless's one trick of driving hard to the hoop has been scouted and no longer brings anything more than a block and a turnover, so he will have to adjust his game to make deeper shots, or learn the hook. He also will have to adjust to playing at both guard spots while Nate juggles lineups. Lately Bayless has seen more time at SG, his natural position, which has bigger, stronger guys guarding him.

Nate is trying some stuff now so there are no surprises come playoff time.

BAKE IT!
 
I guess I should have explained myself better. I realize a guy that excels in all of those categories is rare. I'd settle for 4 or 5 out of 6. I'd take any of these guys below as our starting PG this year

D Harris, CP3, D. Williams, Mo Williams, T Parker, J Terry, C Billups, R. Foye, A Miller, D Rose, R Westbrook, S Nash, TJ Ford, M Bibby, R Sessions, R Stuckey, R Felton, R Rondo, D Fisher, J Kidd, J Calderon, C Duhon, N Robertson


I couldn't decide on a few like B Udrih, A Brooks, J Jack, M Conley, etc.

Once you eliminate guys who are either on the downside of their career, bad ideas chemistry-wise, demand the ball too much, are injury-prone, or are seriously over-rated by you, we are left with Paul and Williams. They are not available.
 
Harris, Paul, Williams, Parker, Billups, Rose, Westbrook, Ellis, Sessions, Stuckey <--- For the love of God give me one of those!!!!!
 
I wonder why Sam Cassell hasn't been picked up by some playoff-bound team as PG insurance. I can't imagine he'd play worse than our backups. Where did he go after Sacramento waived him? Is he waiting for 30 days to elapse so he can go back to Boston?

Because he sucks now.:crazy:
 

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