Patty Mills needs a trade

[Eastoff]

damn conservatives.

fixed

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Someone please e-mail that writer to let him know he's hurt.

 

[bluefrog]

I like his strengths:

From DraftExpress:
STRENGTHS:
- Go-to scoring mentality
- Transition play
- Ability to create own shot
- Ball-handling skills
- Ability to get in passing lanes
- Aggressiveness
- Strong Intangibles
- Ability to finish around basket
- Above average athleticism
- Speed
- 3-point range
- Solid free throw shooter

He seems like someone who could compliment our other players well. He can spot up and shoot the 3 or beat his man off the dribble. He's fast and agrressive which makes him a good candidate to guard the Tony Parkers and Chris Pauls of the league. He may not be able to jump into the starting PG role now but he could be a solid back up.

 

[Minstrel]

He seems like someone who could compliment our other players well. He can spot up and shoot the 3 or beat his man off the dribble. He's fast and agrressive which makes him a good candidate to guard the Tony Parkers and Chris Pauls of the league.

He seems like a poor man's Bayless. Same type of player but smaller and lesser tools.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I like his strengths:

From DraftExpress:
STRENGTHS:
- Go-to scoring mentality
- Transition play
- Ability to create own shot
- Ball-handling skills
- Ability to get in passing lanes
- Aggressiveness
- Strong Intangibles
- Ability to finish around basket
- Above average athleticism
- Speed
- 3-point range
- Solid free throw shooter

He seems like someone who could compliment our other players well. He can spot up and shoot the 3 or beat his man off the dribble. He's fast and agrressive which makes him a good candidate to guard the Tony Parkers and Chris Pauls of the league. He may not be able to jump into the starting PG role now but he could be a solid back up.

He can spot up and shoot the 3 alright. He just has trouble making it. 3-point range is not the same as 3-point accuracy. He shot 7.6 3-pointers per game last season in college. That's a hell of a lot of 3-pointers. Too bad he missed 5.0 of those 7.6 per game - and that's from the shorter college 3-point line.

I just don't get the fan-boy love for some of these PGs who can't shoot and can't defend. Jerryd Bayless averaged more APG at a younger age against much tougher competition - while playing SG in his one season at Arizona. He also averaged more PPG, fewer TO/G and shot the ball better overall, and a hell of a lot better from 3-point range. And, he's actually big enough to guard someone in the NBA. Yet, for some inexplicable reason Mills is our PG of the future.

Let me say that again - 19-year old Jerryd Bayless, playing SG, against much tougher competition, scored more, shot the ball much better from 3-point range, averaged more assists and had a better assist-to-TO ratio 21-year old Patty Mills playing PG against very week competition in the WCC.

BNM

 

[Nikolokolus]

He can spot up and shoot the 3 alright. He just has trouble making it. 3-point range is not the same as 3-point accuracy. He shot 7.6 3-pointers per game last season in college. That's a hell of a lot of 3-pointers. Too bad he missed 5.0 of those 7.6 per game - and that's from the shorter college 3-point line.

I just don't get the fan-boy love for some of these PGs who can't shoot and can't defend. Jerryd Bayless averaged more APG at a younger age against much tougher competition - while playing SG in his one season at Arizona. He also averaged more PPG, fewer TO/G and shot the ball better overall, and a hell of a lot better from 3-point range. And, he's actually big enough to guard someone in the NBA. Yet, for some inexplicable reason Mills is our PG of the future.

Let me say that again - 19-year old Jerryd Bayless, playing SG, against much tougher competition, scored more, shot the ball much better from 3-point range, averaged more assists and had a better assist-to-TO ratio 21-year old Patty Mills playing PG against very week competition in the WCC.

BNM

I hear you, but I get the feeling this is going to fall on mostly deaf ears, young point guards always hold tons of promise and intrigue within the minds of some fans; there will always be someone who thinks "If only they gave <player X> more minutes he'd show 'em."

Hell, we saw this same phenomena with Sergio and Bayless (and Telfair before them). I have to say I even fell victim to it with Bayless last year ... which isn't to say I don't still think he has a lot of promise and might not someday be capable of fitting into the starting lineup, but I think it's fair to say he's still got a ways to go.

 

[bluefrog]

He can spot up and shoot the 3 alright. He just has trouble making it. 3-point range is not the same as 3-point accuracy. He shot 7.6 3-pointers per game last season in college. That's a hell of a lot of 3-pointers. Too bad he missed 5.0 of those 7.6 per game - and that's from the shorter college 3-point line.

Scouts consider the 3 one of his strengths. He has good shooting mechanics so I think he can make the adjustment to the NBA 3. I posted this from the same source you used so I don't know why you're trying to discredit it.

I just don't get the fan-boy love for some of these PGs who can't shoot and can't defend.

I don't know if he can defend but he can shoot:
from DraftExpress:

Mills handled the ball on a string all game long, showing terrific quickness keeping his man off balance, and making an absolute living in the mid-range area with his deadly pull-up jumper. His ability to utilize strong hesitation moves makes him extremely difficult to stay in front of, and he did a good job not settling for tough shots from beyond the arc today, getting to the line repeatedly.

Jerryd Bayless averaged more APG at a younger age against much tougher competition - while playing SG in his one season at Arizona. He also averaged more PPG, fewer TO/G and shot the ball better overall, and a hell of a lot better from 3-point range. And, he's actually big enough to guard someone in the NBA. Yet, for some inexplicable reason Mills is our PG of the future.

Let me say that again - 19-year old Jerryd Bayless, playing SG, against much tougher competition, scored more, shot the ball much better from 3-point range, averaged more assists and had a better assist-to-TO ratio 21-year old Patty Mills playing PG against very week competition in the WCC.

I don't know if you're talking about my post but you quoted me so I'll respond.

I never said anything negative about Bayless. I think he's great (I posted an article about him a few weeks ago that few people bothered responding to) but the club signed Mills for a reason. Bayless definitely had a better college career than Mills but he didn't have a good shooting year last season and that was suppose to be one of his strengths. College isn't always a good indicator of how a player will do in the NBA.

I don't see Mills as our PG of the future or even starting in the NBA but he could be a great guard off the bench to change the tempo of the game. I was shocked to see him blow by CP3 in the Olympics and I'm glad he's on our team. I hope he blends in well with our team and wins us a bunch of games. That's all I'm saying.

 

[DUB]

I don't see Mills as our PG of the future or even starting in the NBA but he could be a great guard off the bench to change the tempo of the game.

Spot on.

And I don't see anyone claiming that he's our PGOTF; just people using hyperbole to try to prove a point.

Statements such as:

WEAKNESSES:
- Decision making
- Settles for bad shots
- Shot-selection
- Low shooting percentages

Fail to take into account that Mills is just doing what the coach has instructed him to do.

If the coach tell him to pass, that's what he'll do. If the coach tells him to shoot, that's what he'll do. If the coach tells him to penetrate, that's what he'll do.

What he will never do, is put himself above the team.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Spot on.

And I don't see anyone claiming that he's our PGOTF; just people using hyperbole to try to prove a point.

Statements such as:

WEAKNESSES:
- Decision making
- Settles for bad shots
- Shot-selection
- Low shooting percentages

Fail to take into account that Mills is just doing what the coach has instructed him to do.

If the coach tell him to pass, that's what he'll do. If the coach tells him to shoot, that's what he'll do. If the coach tells him to penetrate, that's what he'll do.

What he will never do, is put himself above the team.

The coach told him to make bad decisions and settle for bad shots? Yeah, right.

The coach may have made him the focus of the offense, but that doesn't mean he needs to force up bad shots and make poor decisions.

I'm not a big fan of undersized, poor defending PGs who shoot too much at a very low percentage - no matter how quick they are.

BTW, that so-called "hyperbole" was not my opinion. It was the scouting report at draftexpress.com.

BNM