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B-Roy said:
According to Casey, once Gasol is back from Spain he’s joining the coaching staff.

Thoughts?
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Casey forgot to include the end of that thought "...one Gasol is back from Spain, in 9 months..."
 
hoopsjock said:
BGD, why on Earth would Toronto trade Gasol when they are playing so well?
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Gasol will be 35 in a little over a month and isn't playing very well for them this year. I wouldn't trade Whiteside for Gasol.

Toronto is playing pretty good, but they aren't at the same level as Boston and Milwaukee right now and Philly and Miami appear to be stronger as well.
 
CupWizier said:
Gasol will be 35 in a little over a month and isn't playing very well for them this year. I wouldn't trade Whiteside for Gasol.

Toronto is playing pretty good, but they aren't at the same level as Boston and Milwaukee right now and Philly and Miami appear to be stronger as well.
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Gasol absolutely owns Embiid. Just a few games ago he held him to 0 points. They need Gasol's defense for the playoffs. Besides they aren't going to trade away guys that helped them win a title as long as they continue to be one of the best teams in the East.
 
hoopsjock said:
Gasol absolutely owns Embiid. Just a few games ago he held him to 0 points. They need Gasol's defense for the playoffs. Besides they aren't going to trade away guys that helped them win a title as long as they continue to be one of the best teams in the East.
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That was simply one game and one players trajectory is going up while the other is going down. One is 25 and the other soon to be 35. If you were Toronto, would you trade Gasol for Embid?
 
CupWizier said:
That was simply one game and one players trajectory is going up while the other is going down. One is 25 and the other soon to be 35. If you were Toronto, would you trade Gasol for Embid?
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Don't think he was suggesting Gasol was better than Embiid so much as saying that Toronto needs Gasol to defend Embiid.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Don't think he was suggesting Gasol was better than Embiid so much as saying that Toronto needs Gasol to defend Embiid.
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Yeah exactly, his shooting percentages have been down but he's still a big reason for their success.

I don't get what the point of him turning my post into a theoretical trade that the 76ers would never do.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Don't think he was suggesting Gasol was better than Embiid so much as saying that Toronto needs Gasol to defend Embiid.
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and my question was based on who would be better for the team now and for the future thus the reason why Toronto would consider it. hjock was adamant that NO way Gasol is traded. Nobody in this forum knows what Toronto is willing to do. Would you trade Gasol for Embid?
 
hoopsjock said:
Yeah exactly, his shooting percentages have been down but he's still a big reason for their success.

I don't get what the point of him turning my post into a theoretical trade that the 76ers would never do.
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Because you simply don't know what Toronto's mindset is or any team for that matter. You constantly act like you know what all teams seem to be thinking and are willing to do or not to do.
 
CupWizier said:
and my question was based on who would be better for the team now and for the future thus the reason why Toronto would consider it. hjock was adamant that NO way Gasol is traded. Nobody in this forum knows what Toronto is willing to do. Would you trade Gasol for Embid?
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That's like someone saying CJ won't be traded and then someone calling that out by saying so the Blazers wouldn't trade CJ for Luka Doncic?

There's no point in a discussion if you're not going to ask a realistic question and then hide behind the fact that I don't know what Toronto will do.
 
CupWizier said:
and my question was based on who would be better for the team now and for the future thus the reason why Toronto would consider it. hjock was adamant that NO way Gasol is traded. Nobody in this forum knows what Toronto is willing to do. Would you trade Gasol for Embid?
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When we're talking in the context of a hypothetical trade by the Blazers for Gasol, putting Embiid on the other side of that equation doesn't really make sense. More relevant would be the question of whether someone would trade Whiteside for Gasol (or vice versa). I think it's fair to assume that given Toronto's need to compete with Philly, coupled with Gasol's and Whiteside's historical performances when matched up with Embiid, that Toronto would have no interest in that deal.
 
hoopsjock said:
That's like someone saying CJ won't be traded and then someone calling that out by saying so the Blazers wouldn't trade CJ for Luka Doncic?

There's no point in a discussion if you're not going to ask a realistic question and then hide behind the fact that I don't know what Toronto will do.
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I'm not hiding as I am right here. You stated as if it is FACT that Toronto would not trade Gasol period. You brought Embid into the discussion, not me so I used him in a hypothetical. I learned my lesson several years back as I believe it was hoopguru that suggested Blake and Outlaw for Marcus Camby and several posters including me and I believe you as well said no way. Well, it happened.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
When we're talking in the context of a hypothetical trade by the Blazers for Gasol, putting Embiid on the other side of that equation doesn't really make sense. More relevant would be the question of whether someone would trade Whiteside for Gasol (or vice versa). I think it's fair to assume that given Toronto's need to compete with Philly, coupled with Gasol's and Whiteside's historical performances when matched up with Embiid, that Toronto would have no interest in that deal.
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What's not logical on your end is not knowing what else Portland might also include in such a deal. I explained why I put Embid into a hypothetical as that was hjock bringing him into the discussion. One thing that hasn't been factored is that Gasol is in the last year of his contract. Do they re-sign him and get locked in for several years on an aging center? or do they look to capitalize and try and get something out of him that can help them going forward? Toronto could end up not winning the championship and not being able to re-sign Gasol and then not getting anything for him as he walks for nothing. I'm just pointing out that their are many factors that go into a teams decision as to what direction they decide to go.
 
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