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Tulowitzki & La Troy Hawkins go to Blues Jays for Jose Reyes and a couple of Minor Leaguers.
 
Freaked me out when I heard about it, Tulo will be a huge plus for Toronto and I'd guess a salary dump for Colorado. In the case of Reyes not so much. In the Division. The Yankees need to take note, 13 games remain with Toronto with a losing record thus far in place. I really thought late last season that the Yankees would make a bid for Tulo but old buddy Cashman surprised us with Gregorius.
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
Freaked me out when I heard about it, Tulo will be a huge plus for Toronto and I'd guess a salary dump for Colorado. In the case of Reyes not so much. In the Division. The Yankees need to take note, 13 games remain with Toronto with a losing record thus far in place. I really thought late last season that the Yankees would make a bid for Tulo but old buddy Cashman surprised us with Gregorius.
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Michael I don't know how this can be considered a salary dump by Colorado when Reyes is due more money over the next 3 years than Tulo is. $66M to $60M The only difference I see are the years, Tulo current contract runs through 2021 while Reyes only runs through 2018. But the bottom line here is that the Rockies have acquired a player who's less productive & who'll make more money then Tulo over the next 3 years. This trade by Colorado makes absolutely no sense at all.
 
...^^^I would not discount the possibility that in turn Colorado may very well re-trade Reyes before the deadline.
 
How long does reyes stay a rockie before being traded again to the mets to fill a huge hole. This is alderson's big chance to plug a huge hole for the muttsies and get off the fans shit list. Just a matter of what they give up.
 
Rumor is that Colorado will probably try to move Reyes along and yep I agree, I never thought that much of Reyes anyway.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...^^^I would not discount the possibility that in turn Colorado may very well re-trade Reyes before the deadline.
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I would think so because like I said otherwise this trade by Colorado makes absolutely no sense. And yes the Mets would be the most perfect landing spot.
 
Mets don't want him and I don't blame them. They need a power bat for the middle of the lineup. Not a .280 hitter with no power and who can never stay healthy. For over $20 million a year I wouldn't want Reyes either.
 
Messiah717 said:
Mets don't want him and I don't blame them. They need a power bat for the middle of the lineup. Not a .280 hitter with no power and who can never stay healthy. For over $20 million a year I wouldn't want Reyes either.
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They're in dire need of a shortstop but yeah $22M per is a little high just for defense.
 
...Reyes defense is nowhere near what it once was...keep in mind though, it's the Mets, lol...but hell, he could wind up anywhere.
 
Tulo being injury prone and playing at home on turf? Kiss his career goodbye.
 
La Troy Hawkins that is the one part that is the mystery. Had a buddy (Cubs Fan) who had lots of nice adjective in place of Hawkins first name. Going to be interesting to see how all of this deal plays out.
 
Yankeefan5545 said:
La Troy Hawkins that is the one part that is the mystery. Had a buddy (Cubs Fan) who had lots of nice adjective in place of Hawkins first name. Going to be interesting to see how all of this deal plays out.
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I don't know what the record is but this will be Hawkins 12th team to play for.
 
totus44 said:
Tulo being injury prone and playing at home on turf? Kiss his career goodbye.
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...I've heard a few people bring this up...but he's not an OFer running on that artificial turf...he's a SS who generally plays on the dirt part of the field.

...also, the word is that The Rogers Center will soon go to a grass field anyway.
 
Messiah717 said:
Cespedes makes the most sense for the Mets.
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...from what I've read, the Tigers are not throwing in the towel on this season and if that's the case I don't know if they'd let Cespedes go. But if they do give up and let Cespedes go he'll only be a 2 month rental...because he's a FA next year.
...as far as other big bat OFers, watch for Upton to be dealt.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...I've heard a few people bring this up...but he's not an OFer running on that artificial turf...he's a SS who generally plays on the dirt part of the field.

...also, the word is that The Rogers Center will soon go to a grass field anyway.
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2018 is the plan for grass. Their feasibility study is being done now IIRC.

Toronto has decided their pitching is a lost cause and will double-down on scoring ten runs a game from here on out. Should be fun/terrifying.
 
speeds said:
2018 is the plan for grass. Their feasibility study is being done now IIRC.

Toronto has decided their pitching is a lost cause and will double-down on scoring ten runs a game from here on out. Should be fun/terrifying.
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...I figured with the Argos gone it might speed things up...maybe not.

...as far as pitching, you don't think the Jays will be in on another starter by the deadline...I do. They were in the mix on Cueto and Kazmir...I think the Jays are far from done.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...I've heard a few people bring this up...but he's not an OFer running on that artificial turf...he's a SS who generally plays on the dirt part of the field.

...also, the word is that The Rogers Center will soon go to a grass field anyway.
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but its those instances where a SS ends up on the turf are exactly those types of plays that result in injuries. Recall, even Jeter only started 2 of 3 games in Toronto starting in his early 30's. you have to look at risks and probabilities is all I'm saying. I think Tulo lays it all out sometimes to justify his contract. That work ethics doesn't go away.

Besides, if I'm Tulo I'd be pissed, this is a massive pay cut given the tax situation in Canada vs. Colorado.
 
mrmel29 said:
How long does reyes stay a rockie before being traded again to the mets to fill a huge hole. This is alderson's big chance to plug a huge hole for the muttsies and get off the fans shit list. Just a matter of what they give up.
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It wouldn't surprise me, if, the Reyes becomes a Met, before the trade deadline; much like the Bums trade of Uribe, to the Braves, then a month later, traded to the Mets......

The Jays IMO, with Tulo, IMO, won't be much better than life before Tulo, not until the Jays strengthen up their Bull Pen, ie, their Achilles Heel........
 
Just checked the Tiger lineup, game starts in 45 minutes, regular lineup is in, Price is still the starter. Saw Dombrowski during game video of the last Tiger Game in Boston, he did not look happy. Detroit can probably hold steady on position players, Miggy is out but they still have fire power. Price excepted the staff is shaky,and their bullpen just flat out hurts.
 
totus44 said:
but its those instances where a SS ends up on the turf are exactly those types of plays that result in injuries. Recall, even Jeter only started 2 of 3 games in Toronto starting in his early 30's. you have to look at risks and probabilities is all I'm saying. I think Tulo lays it all out sometimes to justify his contract. That work ethics doesn't go away.

Besides, if I'm Tulo I'd be pissed, this is a massive pay cut given the tax situation in Canada vs. Colorado.
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...it's my understanding that the problem with playing on turf as opposed to grass is the pounding that the joints take from running all out...and that it's much more punishing to OFers than anyone else.

...Tulo did get an extra bonus as part of the trade...but I doubt it washes out how much it will cost him.
 
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