Philadelphia Eagles' hire of Chip Kelly could be worst in NFL history

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Now that the Philadelphia Eagles have reeled in perhaps the biggest fish on the coaching market, I am going on the record calling Chip Kelly one of the worst hires in pro football history.
Yes, worse than Steve Spurrier, the old ball coach who is one of college football's top offensive minds ever but who failed miserably in the NFL, going 12-20 in two seasons with the Washington Redskins (2002-'03). Kelly, too, is a dynamic college head coach, but what he's about to bring to the NFL simply won't work, and here's three reasons why:
1. Swoosh, there it isn't
For the past four years, Kelly has had the biggest recruiting advantage ever known to a college coach. His name is Phil Knight, the CEO of Nike and a major University of Oregon donor and school alumnus who pumps millions of dollars into the football program each year. Despite the enormous benefits of this relationship, Kelly has yet to bring a BCS title to Eugene.
In four years with the Ducks, he has a 46-7 record, but has never finished higher than third in the polls, including 2010 when he lost to Auburn in the BCS National Championship game. In the NFL, you don't get 10 first-round picks, and in Philly, the league's best free agents aren't lining up to join the Eagles.
2. Out-coached by Stanford
A month and a half ago, Stanford beat Oregon 17-14 to ruin the Ducks' hopes for a perfect season. Stanford defensive coordinator Derek Mason had 20 working hours that week (mandated by the NCAA, which includes practice, weightlifting, and meetings) to prepare for this so-called NFL-ready offense, and he held them to two touchdowns, 4-of-17 on third down, 0-for-2 on fourth down, and forced a turnover.
I love the discipline and structure that Jim Harbaugh installed at Stanford and that current head coach David Shaw and Mason have continued. And they've done it with much less athletic players than what Kelly has enjoyed at Oregon. If Kelly's high-powered offense could only manage 14 points against Stanford, how will this offense work in the NFL, where all teams -- more or less - are on equal footing?
3. QBs exposed to injuries
If we've learned one thing this season in the NFL, it's that you can't expose your franchise quarterback to vicious and violent hits. I'm sure the RG3 phenomenon is adding to the Chip Kelly hype but Robert Griffin III has been knocked out of a game once by concussion and once from a brutal hit from Baltimore Ravens NT Haloti Ngata that could've been worse than an LCL sprain. One more concussion for RG3 and he would have been watching from the bench the rest of the season.
Quarterback Marcus Mariota carried the ball 106 times in 13 games for Kelly this season at Oregon. Overall, Oregon quarterbacks have rushed the ball 464 times in Kelly's four seasons with the Ducks. I'm not sure he can maintain that in the NFL against much bigger, quicker and faster defensive players without losing a quarterback -- be it Michael Vick, Geno Smith or anyone else -- to injury for a significant amount of time.
The game is constantly changing in small ways, but the basis of championship football will always be physical and mental toughness in the NFL, not gadget offensive schemes. When Kelly and his Oregon squads have faced physically tough and defensively sound teams that the NCAA has to offer, they have not fared well.
Sure, Oregon kept it close against Auburn in the 2010 title game and the Ducks didn't do so badly against LSU last year either. But "keeping it close" and "not so bad" will only get you one thing in the NFL: fired.


http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story...in-nfl-history?campaign=Twitter_writers_evans
 
I think Chip could be great in the NFL with a QB like RGIII, R.Wilson, Colin K.
 
Kelly will be fine. I'm just glad he's out of Eugene.
 
Wow, this guy is just a hater.

More likely he was just assigned the counter article by his boss so he grasped at whatever straws he could readily find. Pretty ridiculous hyperbole tho
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There is a large part of the old guard that doesn't like what Chip brings to the table. You saw it with that article I posted bitching about the Pats offense. They don't like the hurry up, no huddle, run and gun offense. Personally, I've been spoiled by it. I watch a regular NFL game and it's too slow for me now. I get bored :lol:
 
Now that the Philadelphia Eagles have reeled in perhaps the biggest fish on the coaching market, I am going on the record calling Chip Kelly one of the worst hires in pro football history.
Yes, worse than Steve Spurrier, the old ball coach who is one of college football's top offensive minds ever but who failed miserably in the NFL, going 12-20 in two seasons with the Washington Redskins (2002-'03). Kelly, too, is a dynamic college head coach, but what he's about to bring to the NFL simply won't work, and here's three reasons why:
1. Swoosh, there it isn't
For the past four years, Kelly has had the biggest recruiting advantage ever known to a college coach. His name is Phil Knight, the CEO of Nike and a major University of Oregon donor and school alumnus who pumps millions of dollars into the football program each year. Despite the enormous benefits of this relationship, Kelly has yet to bring a BCS title to Eugene.
In four years with the Ducks, he has a 46-7 record, but has never finished higher than third in the polls, including 2010 when he lost to Auburn in the BCS National Championship game. In the NFL, you don't get 10 first-round picks, and in Philly, the league's best free agents aren't lining up to join the Eagles.
2. Out-coached by Stanford
A month and a half ago, Stanford beat Oregon 17-14 to ruin the Ducks' hopes for a perfect season. Stanford defensive coordinator Derek Mason had 20 working hours that week (mandated by the NCAA, which includes practice, weightlifting, and meetings) to prepare for this so-called NFL-ready offense, and he held them to two touchdowns, 4-of-17 on third down, 0-for-2 on fourth down, and forced a turnover.
I love the discipline and structure that Jim Harbaugh installed at Stanford and that current head coach David Shaw and Mason have continued. And they've done it with much less athletic players than what Kelly has enjoyed at Oregon. If Kelly's high-powered offense could only manage 14 points against Stanford, how will this offense work in the NFL, where all teams -- more or less - are on equal footing?
3. QBs exposed to injuries
If we've learned one thing this season in the NFL, it's that you can't expose your franchise quarterback to vicious and violent hits. I'm sure the RG3 phenomenon is adding to the Chip Kelly hype but Robert Griffin III has been knocked out of a game once by concussion and once from a brutal hit from Baltimore Ravens NT Haloti Ngata that could've been worse than an LCL sprain. One more concussion for RG3 and he would have been watching from the bench the rest of the season.
Quarterback Marcus Mariota carried the ball 106 times in 13 games for Kelly this season at Oregon. Overall, Oregon quarterbacks have rushed the ball 464 times in Kelly's four seasons with the Ducks. I'm not sure he can maintain that in the NFL against much bigger, quicker and faster defensive players without losing a quarterback -- be it Michael Vick, Geno Smith or anyone else -- to injury for a significant amount of time.
The game is constantly changing in small ways, but the basis of championship football will always be physical and mental toughness in the NFL, not gadget offensive schemes. When Kelly and his Oregon squads have faced physically tough and defensively sound teams that the NCAA has to offer, they have not fared well.
Sure, Oregon kept it close against Auburn in the 2010 title game and the Ducks didn't do so badly against LSU last year either. But "keeping it close" and "not so bad" will only get you one thing in the NFL: fired.


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1.eagles get all manner of free agents, this is dumb

2. so was stanford outcoached by washington? :lol:

3. colin kaepernick, russell wilson, cam newton, rg3, etc...sure these guys might take a pounding, just like tom brady missed a season with a knee injury while standing in the pocket

dumb
 
eagles have some serious talent, and i expect chip has a few tricks up his sleeve
 
Now that the Philadelphia Eagles have reeled in perhaps the biggest fish on the coaching market, I am going on the record calling Chip Kelly one of the worst hires in pro football history.
Yes, worse than Steve Spurrier, the old ball coach who is one of college football's top offensive minds ever but who failed miserably in the NFL, going 12-20 in two seasons with the team Washington Redskins (2002-'03). Kelly, too, is a dynamic college head coach,....
What about Mike Riley? He did horrible in the NFL and his stints ended quickly.
Riley coached the Chargers from 1999 to 2001, with a record of 14–34.
 
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Steve Spurrier, great college offensive genius, won 14 games in the NFL.

Kelly and the Eagles will wind up regreting this. I just hope it doesn't set the Ducks back too badly.
 
Chip ran a pass-first spread offense at New Hampshire when Ricky Santos was their QB. Pretty close to what New England is running right now.

The lack of knowledge by these NFL 'experts' is hilarious to me. I do agree with the post that said somebody was supposed to just write a 'hater' article.
 
This could be one of the worst articles in the history of the NFL. Not that I necessarily think Chip will succeed, but the reasons given here are bullshit.

#1. Not winning a national title doesn't mean you're won't succeed in the NFL any more than winning one means you will do well. See Jim Harbaugh/Steve Spurrier.

#2. Uhh...ok, this point is beyond lame. Name one coach who has never lost? Ridiculous argument.

#3. During the Chips tenure, how much has QB injury been a problem? Mariota didn't take may licks this year. Colin Kapernick of the 49ers had almost 200 yards rushing last week, and didn't take any big hits. It's all a matter of getting down or getting out or bounds.
 
You can't run two deep in the NFL at the pace Chip did with Oregon. Not enough players on the roster and tempo will be hamstringed with commercials, instant replay and challenges. Every team will fake injuries at key times to slow things down, plus at this level your OL and DL has to have size to be effective. Good luck pushing Oregon pace with 6'6 325 pound hogs who've been trained on a pro style offensive scheme!
 
You can't run two deep in the NFL at the pace Chip did with Oregon. Not enough players on the roster and tempo will be hamstringed with commercials, instant replay and challenges. Every team will fake injuries at key times to slow things down, plus at this level your OL and DL has to have size to be effective. Good luck pushing Oregon pace with 6'6 325 pound hogs who've been trained on a pro style offensive scheme!

The Patriots seem to be doing okay with it.
 
Patriots and Ducks offense aren't close to the same. Patriots offense has aspects that are similar to Oregon, but not close to the same.

And why would it be outside the realm of possibility that Chip would adopt an offense similar to NE? I don't think anyone is saying that Chip is going to go full Duck mode in the NFL.
 
And why would it be outside the realm of possibility that Chip would adopt an offense similar to NE? I don't think anyone is saying that Chip is going to go full Duck mode in the NFL.

an NFL roster is 53 guys while in college it's 85. It seems doubtful he pushes the offensive pace so much without the sheer numbers especially on D. Dude is super smart and probably has other new angles lined up

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SlyPokerDog,

You are being too judgemental. Let Chip adjust to the NFL and then critique him after the first year jesus.
 
SlyPokerDog,

You are being too judgemental. Let Chip adjust to the NFL and then critique him after the first year jesus.

he was quoting an article my friend
 
Although I think Chip is an ego maniac, I want to see him succeed in the NFL cause the last thing any duck fan wants is Chips failing and coming back to college somewhere like ooooooh I don't know, USC or LSU!
 

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