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Rastapopoulos

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I know he'll be super-easy to trade BUT PLEASE DON'T! Trade Ayton! Trade him at a loss, I don't care, just don't take away our best player! I'm just now getting over trading Josh Hart.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I know he'll be super-easy to trade BUT PLEASE DON'T! Trade Ayton! Trade him at a loss, I don't care, just don't take away our best player! I'm just now getting over trading Josh Hart.
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And then what happens when he inevitably gets hurt again?
 
Keep RWIII, do this instead:
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Would you do this, even if there were no picks involved, just to clear out salaries? Cuz I absolutely would.
Question is, would Brooklyn? I think they might take a gamble with one eye on Milwaukee. Giannis has said he wants Brooklyn and I don't think Milwaukee would want to trade him just for expirings for fear of Bucks fans grabbing pitchforks and torches.
 
If they intend on trading Grant, I say keep all 3 centers unless there is a trade we can't refuse. I still want to see a twin-tower lineup for a few minutes each game. Maybe it will suck but maybe it will work. But a lineup of Clingan, DA, Deni, Sharpe, and Banton would be kind of fun (or possibly "funny") to watch. Assuming Banton keeps his 3-point shooting at a decent percentage.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I know he'll be super-easy to trade BUT PLEASE DON'T! Trade Ayton! Trade him at a loss, I don't care, just don't take away our best player! I'm just now getting over trading Josh Hart.
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If we can get a decent FRP then I'll be fine with it, wasn't expecting anything this last summer.

But if Joe can't get a good pick in return I'll be very happy to keep Timelord on the team. I'd even consider giving him an extension in the summer. Yeah he might be injured again, but if it can be reasonable dollar amount like his current contract he's just one of the ideal type of vets you can have on any team, especially our young team. I like the idea one poster had of us having a healthy year from him one time when were eventually trying to win sort of how Walton had that great 1986 year in Boston.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
If they intend on trading Grant, I say keep all 3 centers unless there is a trade we can't refuse.
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Of our three high-paid vets, I'd hang on to Grant. He works with what we're doing and he's a great lockerroom guy. Yes he's the oldest, but he's shown he can play the way we want to play. He's got no ego and he actually knows how to play the right way. Of course, if somebody comes offering a ton of picks, then sure, let him go. But unlike the others I'm not in a hurry to offload him.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Keep RWIII, do this instead:
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Would you do this, even if there were no picks involved, just to clear out salaries? Cuz I absolutely would.
Question is, would Brooklyn? I think they might take a gamble with one eye on Milwaukee. Giannis has said he wants Brooklyn and I don't think Milwaukee would want to trade him just for expirings for fear of Bucks fans grabbing pitchforks and torches.
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Yeah I'd do the deal but I question Brooklyn will want to eat all that salary next year. Also they don't really have a spot for Ayton since they have Claxton who's much better.

I think they'd maybe consider something like Ant and Thybulle for Simmons which I would do.

Will be pleasantly surprised if Joe Cronin proves me wrong and gets a FRP for any of Ant Ayton Grant - but I expect none of them have that value. I'll be happy just to get out of any of their contracts.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Keep RWIII, do this instead:
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Would you do this, even if there were no picks involved, just to clear out salaries? Cuz I absolutely would.
Question is, would Brooklyn? I think they might take a gamble with one eye on Milwaukee. Giannis has said he wants Brooklyn and I don't think Milwaukee would want to trade him just for expirings for fear of Bucks fans grabbing pitchforks and torches.
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Brooklyn just signed Claxton, why are they taking on ayton ?
And they've got cam Thomas to do what simons does. Makes no sense for them.
 
RR7 said:
Brooklyn just signed Claxton, why are they taking on ayton ?
And they've got cam Thomas to do what simons does. Makes no sense for them.
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Plus they just got their picks back. There's no incentive to win.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Keep RWIII, do this instead:
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Would you do this, even if there were no picks involved, just to clear out salaries? Cuz I absolutely would.
Question is, would Brooklyn? I think they might take a gamble with one eye on Milwaukee. Giannis has said he wants Brooklyn and I don't think Milwaukee would want to trade him just for expirings for fear of Bucks fans grabbing pitchforks and torches.
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Hmm, that looks familiar...
 
RR7 said:
Brooklyn just signed Claxton, why are they taking on ayton ?
And they've got cam Thomas to do what simons does. Makes no sense for them.
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Allow me to quote myself:
Rastapopoulos said:
Question is, would Brooklyn? I think they might take a gamble with one eye on Milwaukee. Giannis has said he wants Brooklyn and I don't think Milwaukee would want to trade him just for expirings for fear of Bucks fans grabbing pitchforks and torches.
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Rastapopoulos said:
Allow me to quote myself:
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Just about a 0% chance Milwaukee looks at Giannis trades during this season. They will want to wait to see how the team plays to finish the season first.

But next year or whenever if they do get to a point of shopping Giannis I certainly could see us involved as a 3rd team since we have those 3 years of their picks.

Brooklyn does make a ton of sense too... they have enough picks to make a real offer. Their roster needs to better prove its ready to win with Giannis now though.
 
Unfortunately I think you need to Timelord because he’s so fragile
 
Rob is the one vet that we have that seems from my limited viewpoint to be an excellent leader and example for all of our young guys. The injury thing is a major concern for me, so if we could get a FRP for him along with expiring contracts or to a team with an exception then I would want him traded to that team so he can try and win big while he still can (we're still a ways off from the playoffs let alone contention).

So yeah, I don't want Joe to dump Rob. Hell I don't even want Joe dumping Jerami or Ant just to clear cap space that we won't likely be able to use effectively anyway. I don't want Deandre dumped. I even think Tisse has a contract that could be moved for some minor value whether that's an expiring contract and/or some second rounders or even better draft assets but a bad returning contract that we could afford to eat right now.

Joe should be able to get value for thees guys because regardless of if they are starting which I think a handful of teams could use Deandre to start right now and a ton of teams could use Jerami as a starter. Maybe Ant is best suited for the bench but I think most teams would find more than 20 minutes for him. Rob and Tisse as well. They all have value and I don't think any of them are on a contract that is a big overpay for that value.

All five of these guys can contribute to wins and not just regular season wins, playoff wins. So I think Joe should be able to get value back for every one of them. I don't expect that he will move all five by the trade deadline and Rob is by far the one I'd like on the team as a leader for the rest of this season but some of them have to go and all of them probably should.
 
He's going to get injured again and you're going to regret not moving him for value (if he has any). If he doesn't have value this is all moot, since the Blazers wouldn't just give him away for nothing.
 
B-Roy said:
He's going to get injured again and you're going to regret not moving him for value (if he has any). If he doesn't have value this is all moot, since the Blazers wouldn't just give him away for nothing.
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Yup. If he wasn't such an obvious injury risk, I'd totally keep him...... but the guy has very little chance of staying healthy. He's healthy right now and he's balling. See if you can get a decent pick.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Yup. If he wasn't such an obvious injury risk, I'd totally keep him...... but the guy has very little chance of staying healthy. He's healthy right now and he's balling. See if you can get a decent pick.
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He's averaged about 36 games a season, so he has been healthy about 44% of the time. Now he certainly has a chance of being hurt, I mean it's more likely he misses a game than plays.

Still I think your underestimating his chance to contribute. He's a clear difference maker when playing so if he gives us a 44% chance to make some noise in the playoffs I'd be super happy with that chance. Over a few years odds are he'd be there to help in one of them.

That's likely about every other he's helping us win playoff games. We've won playoff series in 3 of 25 years this century, never being a contender in any of them, so 44% sounds pretty good.

Now if we can cash him in for a good FRP yes I'd pull the trigger, mostly that's just from us being so far from contending though. If he didn't have the injuries we never would have acquired him and he'd be on a way more expensive contract. Yes injuries contribute to not wanting him to be on our team, but it lessens the return we can get and lessens the cost of keeping him.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Keep RWIII, do this instead:
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Would you do this, even if there were no picks involved, just to clear out salaries? Cuz I absolutely would.
Question is, would Brooklyn? I think they might take a gamble with one eye on Milwaukee. Giannis has said he wants Brooklyn and I don't think Milwaukee would want to trade him just for expirings for fear of Bucks fans grabbing pitchforks and torches.
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Yes i would ; but i doubt there is more than one or two others here who would.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
If YOU know this, don't you think other GMs know this and would be fools to trade for him?
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At the deadline a team with over a dozen picks like OKC would make sense to trade for him. They'll have tons of picks either way, but that 44% chance he has to be healthy may ultimately push them over the title.

Now if we were a playoff team I'd be more reluctant to trade him away. So yes his injury risk lessens his value to us and to everyone. But really the prime reason to trade him is we aren't a contender right now and he has an expiring contract next season.
 
I'd leave it up to Williams. If he wants to stay, keep him. I'll never forget when the Cleveland Indians traded Victor Martinez, a guy who loved the team and the city and absolutely wanted to stay. They might have thought he was getting older, but he fooled them by going on to have nine more productive years.
 
B-Roy said:
He's going to get injured again and you're going to regret not moving him for value (if he has any). If he doesn't have value this is all moot, since the Blazers wouldn't just give him away for nothing.
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Kind of a two bladed sword. He is a risk for us to keep him, but his injury history probably makes what we would get not worth trading him.
 
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