Please stop blaming Stotts for no bench production

[Mediocre Man]

A lot of you have been saying we needed to play the bench more this year. 6 games separated us from missing the playoffs completely. Stotts did what he had to do to win games

 

[blue32]

Results would have been the same. We did not make it to WCF, or beyond.

Playoffs 1st, or 2nd round, big deal. If we don't get a better bench we wont progress.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Results would have been the same. We did not make it to WCF, or beyond.

Playoffs 1st, or 2nd round, big deal. If we don't get a better bench we wont progress.

His job is to win games.

Does anyone really think he'd have a job next year had we not made the playoffs?

 

[Eastoff]

His job is to win games.

Does anyone really think he'd have a job next year had we not made the playoffs?

Nope!

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

I guarantee we'll have a better bench next year.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I guarantee we'll have a better bench next year.

I got suspended for posting shit like that

 

[blue32]

His job is to win games.

Does anyone really think he'd have a job next year had we not made the playoffs?

Probably not, but I don't care. The coach needs to develop the bench talent, while winning games. That's what Pop does. His bench is magnificent. I mean look what he did with Mills for christ sake.

We had absolutely no bench production in the playoffs, because they just weren't ready to play these types of games, or any game for that matter.

 

[blue32]

I got suspended for posting shit like that

MM, please stop and focus on the basketball discussion. Leave your personal shit out of here.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Probably not, but I don't care. The coach needs to develop the bench talent, while winning games. That's what Pop does. His bench is magnificent. I mean look what he did with Mills for christ sake.

We had absolutely no bench production in the playoffs, because they just weren't read to play these types of games, or any game for that matter.

Pop does that now. He has a tad bit more lead than Stotts does, wouldn't you say?

 

[Natebishop3]

I got suspended for posting shit like that

Yup. That's why.

 

[Mediocre Man]

MM, please stop and focus on the basketball discussion. Leave your personal shit out of here.

It was a joke, Francis.

Plus, it's my thread, damnit

 

[blue32]

Pop does that now. He has a tad bit more lead than Stotts does, wouldn't you say?

I feel that we could have done better. I think Stotts could have done better to get his bench ready to play. And honestly with how we were last season in terms of record, I don't think he would have been fired this year if he didn't make the playoffs specially if he found any gold in Will, or CJ.

It was a joke, Francis.

Plus, it's my thread, damnit

Ok, I didn't take it that way , my bad.

 

[Reep]

Pop does that now. He has a tad bit more lead than Stotts does, wouldn't you say?

And that is the difference. Pop can play with bench rotations and rest starters because the average talent level he has to work with is much higher. Hopefully through some trades and player development we can give Stotts the same luxury.

 

[blue32]

And that is the difference. Pop can play with bench rotations and rest starters because the average talent level he has to work with is much higher. Hopefully through some trades and player development we can give Stotts the same luxury.

But, when we had Patty Mills everyone was saying he was garbage.... and now he is Pop's number 2 PG. So........ I still think it comes to coaching your players.

 

[Reep]

But, when we had Patty Mills everyone was saying he was garbage.... and now he is Pop's number 2 PG. So........ I still think it comes to coaching your players.

Which is why we won't get rid of Will Barton this summer. Some players you have to give time. Others are trade fodder. Mills is much better than he was when we had him. It's not just the coaching, but development time too.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

I got suspended for posting shit like that

But you were mocking someone, no?

 

[Mediocre Man]

But, when we had Patty Mills everyone was saying he was garbage.... and now he is Pop's number 2 PG. So........ I still think it comes to coaching your players.

Stotts never had Patty though, Ass Clown did.

 

[HomerLovesKoolAid]

But you were mocking someone, no?

Well, so was I, but it's just a joke. I figured MM would see the humor.

 

[blue32]

Stotts never had Patty though, Ass Clown did.

I understand. I am just saying that we as an org. are terrible at developing our bench players. Stotts is no exception to that rule so far. He's stuffed guys on the bench just like McMillan did...... Even if we do lose some games, we HAVE to get those guys some playing time or we just repeat what we did in the Spurs series.

 

[Mediocre Man]

But you were mocking someone, no?

Who's to say? Homer posted the same thing I did. I guess a fair question is why is mine perceived mocking and not his?

Now mine certainly was and his most likely is a joke, but it's all perception

But I was just joking with him

 

[Nikolokolus]

But you were mocking someone, no?

And that's somehow unique around here?

 

[Mediocre Man]

And that's somehow unique around here?

I was told to stop and didn't. I deserved the time out

Eric just did it again though, so we will see if there can be some consistency

 

[BlazerWookee]

But, when we had Patty Mills everyone was saying he was garbage.... and now he is Pop's number 2 PG. So........ I still think it comes to coaching your players.

I never said Patty Mills was garbage. He's my favorite active non-Blazer, even though the little bastard played a decent-sized part in whooping our butts, lol...

 

[tlongII]

I don't blame Stotts for our lack of a bench. However, I DO blame him for our horrific defense.

 

[jlprk]

Which is why we won't get rid of Will Barton this summer. Some players you have to give time. Others are trade fodder. Mills is much better than he was when we had him. It's not just the coaching, but development time too.

It's not about giving players like Webster and Outlaw time; it's coaches using that time to force them to change their bad habits. Were Mills still here, he'd be as defenseless as he was under McMillan and...can't name him...see thread title.

Popovich USES his years instead of waiting for miracles.

 

[e_blazer]

But, when we had Patty Mills everyone was saying he was garbage.... and now he is Pop's number 2 PG. So........ I still think it comes to coaching your players.

It comes to 4-5 years of experience. The Spurs' bench is stocked with guys who are seasoned pros. The Blazers' bench has only a couple of those guys. It took Patty Mills playing in foreign leagues and working several years on his game to be good enough for Pop to take him on and finish turning him into the player he is now. Nothing Stotts could have done would have greatly improved the experience of his bench players, but it sure could have cost a chance at getting into the playoffs. And getting into the playoffs, which you dismiss so easily, is a necessary step to getting experienced FAs to sign on here instead of cities that have playoff teams.

 

[Draco]

Its nitpicking but if he plays the bench more on back to backs and road trips I think the starters will be more productive the next time they are on the floor. What's done is done but next year I want to see a small change.

 

[blue32]

It comes to 4-5 years of experience. The Spurs' bench is stocked with guys who are seasoned pros. The Blazers' bench has only a couple of those guys. It took Patty Mills playing in foreign leagues and working several years on his game to be good enough for Pop to take him on and finish turning him into the player he is now. Nothing Stotts could have done would have greatly improved the experience of his bench players, but it sure could have cost a chance at getting into the playoffs. And getting into the playoffs, which you dismiss so easily, is a necessary step to getting experienced FAs to sign on here instead of cities that have playoff teams.

If there is nothing he could have done to improve Mills, then there is nothing that he can do to improve anyone on our bench, and by your logic, everyone on our bench besides Mo/Wright/Watson need to go into other leagues to work on their game....

Nonsense.

They need playing time in this league to work on their game. Yes we might have missed the playoffs or whatever. But we're always going to be a 1st or 2nd round exit if we don' improve our bench.

And for that matter, what happens if one of our 82 game starters gets injured? In Pops system there is minimal production loss.

 

[maxiep]

We're at least a year ahead of schedule. Ergo, Olshey left our bench as a proving ground. Next year, expectations will be different and so will be the role of our bench.

In other words, I fully expect Olshey to bring in some solid vets for our bench and for our starters to play fewer minutes.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I understand. I am just saying that we as an org. are terrible at developing our bench players. Stotts is no exception to that rule so far. He's stuffed guys on the bench just like McMillan did...... Even if we do lose some games, we HAVE to get those guys some playing time or we just repeat what we did in the Spurs series.

I disagree he only went 9 deep in rotation most nights but he gave everyone a pretty fair chance during the season. People questioned why het sat trob and played leonard for a few weeks. He was developing everyone while riding the starters to victory. We need players with a motor and work ethic. Barton, trob, and freeland are above the rest of the bench there.