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http://www.kgw.com/news/Suicide-1-killer-in-Portland--225897781.html

PORTLAND -- A new study by the Police Bureau's Behavioral Health Unit showed 202 people committed suicide in Portland between April, 2011 and June, 2012.

That's nearly double the number of homicides and traffic fatalities in Portland, combined, during that same time period.

It’s also nearly triple the national average.

"The number of people committing suicide in our area is appalling," said Portland Police Chief Mike Reese.

Reese said the numbers were important and underline the need to continue strengthening the bureau's Behavioral Health Unit.

The study also shattered some assumptions about suicide, like the time of year when they happen the most.

"The most suicides averaged out to be in the summer months," said Frank Silva, crime analyst with the bureau's Behavioral Health Unit and author of the study.

"I thought it was going to be winter or fall because of the weather," said Silva. "I don't know why it's happening. I think that's the next step."

Officer Bill Ollenbrook has responded to dozens of suicide calls in his twenty years with the Police Bureau.

"In those instances when it's clear to you this person's intent on ending their life, it's heart wrenching," said Ollenbrook, who added that sometimes the experience can be frightening.

"You probably don't think of cops being scared, but it's a scary situation," said Ollenbrook. "You're afraid [the suicidal person] will end their life but also fearing that they'll pull the police into it and use police to end their lives."

In addition to the suicide analysis, police produced a new suicide prevention video. It shows video rewinding from a close-up of the Willamette River to the top of a bridge and eventually to someone calling a crisis hotline. The caption asks, "What if you could turn back to clock?"

Chief Reese said he hopes it encourages people in Portland to ask another question.

"Have the courage to say, 'Can I help you?'" Said Reese. "You could save their life."
 
No job growth
Shitty weather 9 months of the year

Not really that shocking
 
No job growth
Shitty weather 9 months of the year

Not really that shocking

The no job growth is pretty much national so that just leaves the weather. Most native Oregonians can handle their shit so I'd say they're LA transplants... Either that or cops are shooting people and writing down "suicide by cop."
 
I wonder what the underline cause is.

After a quick google search here there is some odd information out there.

Vegas, Denver, SLC, Nashville, St Louis, Chicago, Minneapolis, Tampa and Dallas all seem to have higher rates of people with serious suicide thoughts than Portland or Seattle.

And according to this page (granted it might be outdated), the rate of suicidal thoughts in Portland is lower than the US average, and that in climates where it's warm and dry (Phoenix, Vegas) or warm and tropical (Honolulu).

Seems to suggest that it's not necessarily weather related. Places with much colder winters and wetter summers (New York, Philadelphia) have similar rates as Portland.

And their data (unless it's in error..haven't read that far into it yet) seem to suggest Portland doesn't have a suicide issue.

NSDUH-Short-Report-119-SuicideByMSA-2012-fig3.jpg
 
I wonder what the underline cause is.

After a quick google search here there is some odd information out there.

Vegas, Denver, SLC, Nashville, St Louis, Chicago, Minneapolis, Tampa and Dallas all seem to have higher rates of people with serious suicide thoughts than Portland or Seattle.

And according to this page (granted it might be outdated), the rate of suicidal thoughts in Portland is lower than the US average, and that in climates where it's warm and dry (Phoenix, Vegas) or warm and tropical (Honolulu).

Seems to suggest that it's not necessarily weather related. Places with much colder winters and wetter summers (New York, Philadelphia) have similar rates as Portland.

And their data (unless it's in error..haven't read that far into it yet) seem to suggest Portland doesn't have a suicide issue.

NSDUH-Short-Report-119-SuicideByMSA-2012-fig3.jpg

I could understand SLC (Mormon thing that I don't care to get into) but not Dallas.
 
No job growth
Shitty weather 9 months of the year

Not really that shocking


If it was weather related, why is LA so high in suicide attempts?

Why is Dallas so high?

Why is Houston's higher than Portlands?

Why is the state of Arizona more prone to suicides than Portland? Their weather is much nicer than Oregons (well, major cities of Oregon)
 
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If it was weather related, why is LA so high in suicide attempts?

Why is Dallas so high?

Why is Houston's higher than Portlands?

Why is the state of Arizona more prone to suicides than Portland? Their weather is much nicer than Oregons (well, major cities of Oregon)

LA is the land of fakers. I get that one.
 
LA is the land of fakers. I get that one.

All joking aside (not saying you're joking, I just meant I'm going to avoid the obvious joke that's there), I think there is a lot of truth in that. Having to live up to an image might play a role in suicides.
 
I knew changing the name of the Rose Garden was a bad idea...
 
If it was weather related, why is LA so high in suicide attempts?

Why is Dallas so high?

Why is Houston's higher than Portlands?

Why is the state of Arizona more prone to suicides than Portland? Their weather is much nicer than Oregons (well, major cities of Oregon)

Maybe there are different reasons in those areas?

IMO, and IMO only, I believe those factors are why Portland's rate is so high. Instead of being do fucking combative all the time, offer up a suggestion of why you believe it to be so high.

Hopefully I didn't offend anyone so my post gets edited for no fucking reason
 
Interesting, albeit depressing, note:

According to Business insider, as of 2011, the # 1 city of was Las Vegas (better weather than Portland) and Tucson was #3 (arguably better weather..just slightly).

Mesa is #6, Albecorky is #5, and Miami is #7.

Maybe weather has absolutely nothing to do with it, other than anecdotal jokes.

Especially when you consider the report said that a significant # of suicides happen during the summer. And as someone who has dealt with this on a personal level, I was always better during the colder, wetter months.
 
Maybe there are different reasons in those areas?

IMO, and IMO only, I believe those factors are why Portland's rate is so high. Instead of being do fucking combative all the time, offer up a suggestion of why you believe it to be so high.

Hopefully I didn't offend anyone so my post gets edited for no fucking reason

You sure get defensive when someone responds to a post you made. And considering you're very abrasive, you seem to project a lot.

If you honestly think me asking why cities with better weather have higher rates than Portland is being combative, you might want to re-think your whole "posting on a message board/this is my character" mindset.
 
All joking aside (not saying you're joking, I just meant I'm going to avoid the obvious joke that's there), I think there is a lot of truth in that. Having to live up to an image might play a role in suicides.

Were I to guess why suicides in LA, I might think of the economy and what people lost. LA is an area (I think) of high homeownership and cost of living. When the economy was destroyed (and the continuing destruction) my guess is that so many people lost so much they opted out of life.
 
You sure get defensive when someone responds to a post you made. And considering you're very abrasive, you seem to project a lot.

If you honestly think me asking why cities with better weather have higher rates than Portland is being combative, you might want to re-think your whole "posting on a message board/this is my character" mindset.

So still no theories, just arguing. Good for you. Stay with what you know
 
Interesting, albeit depressing, note:

According to Business insider, as of 2011, the # 1 city of was Las Vegas (better weather than Portland) and Tucson was #3 (arguably better weather..just slightly).

Mesa is #6, Albecorky is #5, and Miami is #7.

Maybe weather has absolutely nothing to do with it, other than anecdotal jokes.

Especially when you consider the report said that a significant # of suicides happen during the summer. And as someone who has dealt with this on a personal level, I was always better during the colder, wetter months.

I think weather plays a factor in Portland due to all the gray skies and rain, bit not in other areas. They have their own issues.
 
Interesting, albeit depressing, note:

According to Business insider, as of 2011, the # 1 city of was Las Vegas (better weather than Portland) and Tucson was #3 (arguably better weather..just slightly).

Mesa is #6, Albecorky is #5, and Miami is #7.

Maybe weather has absolutely nothing to do with it, other than anecdotal jokes.

Especially when you consider the report said that a significant # of suicides happen during the summer. And as someone who has dealt with this on a personal level, I was always better during the colder, wetter months.

NPR stated that 70% of suicides in Portland are by white males. I believe the average age is in the 40s, but I have no data on that specific point.
 
I wonder if the fact that Oregon was doctor assisted suicide is part of the high numbers.

I can understand why Vegas would be so high. Lot's of people loose their ass there, and probably don't want to face the music when they get back home.

Go Blazers
 
With the #1 pick, the Portland Trail Blazers take Greg Oden of Ohio State University...

barfo
 
So still no theories, just arguing. Good for you. Stay with what you know

I wasn't arguing, but presenting some information that kind of showed that your theory might be flawed. Usually, if someone presents an idea, and you can discount it, people don't need to respond in the defensive stance that you did.

And my pointing out that other cities, some with worse weather than Portland and some with better weather than Portland (and same with jobs/unemployment), seems to point out a simple fact. It's too complex of an issue to just paint it with a generic or blanket statement (i.e., it's because of the "shitty weather 9 months of the year". For example? Tucson has nice weather year round, and a lot of attractive easy women, and a decent economy).

Pointing out a flaw in your theory does not mean I have to justify my own counter theory, or even counter points. Unless you want to set the bar that high that all counter points (or questions about the subject/theory presented) must be presented with theories otherwise it's just arguing for the sake of arguing.

If that's the case, most of the board would remain silent.

As for my theory? I don't know. I thought at one point that weather would play a role. But, as I posted (albeit, maybe poorly) when I saw that weather does not have a direct correlation to suicide rates (both attempts and suicidal thoughts), it got me wondering.

Why would cities that have significantly better weather, have similar or even higher rates than Portland, if weather plays a significant role (or a role at all)?

What is an other, common factor? Age of the person? gender? lack of decent mental health care?

As someone who went through a suicidal phase (as I mentioned in mooks thread a couple weeks ago), I know that Portlands weather wasn't the cause of it. Nor was employment. And I've often wondered what it was that causes (other) peoples suicidal thoughts or attempts. I take this issue seriously, and don't just make flippant comments about weather because it's funny, or clever or makes a subtle dig at those who don't think weather is an issue.

I've actually looked into the causes, and weather or lack of vitamin D, doesn't play a significant role.

But, please, feel free to assume that it's because I just apparently arguing with you.
 
All joking aside (not saying you're joking, I just meant I'm going to avoid the obvious joke that's there), I think there is a lot of truth in that. Having to live up to an image might play a role in suicides.

ITS BECAUSE I KEEP ON FIRING MOTHERFUCKERS.
 

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